I was very concerned at how often we were penetrated by Young Boys.
New system with a totally different defensive plan to it.
The midfield is not active enough in protecting the defence as well.
The system requires constant pressing from everyone on the pitch
As Lucas says the issues are due to the new style. You cant be more attacking without being less defensive. You cant be more fluid without being less compact. It's about finding a balance and from the Sunderland game I found that we are getting there.
Concerning the sunderland game. I have a mate who is a ST holder up there and his view was really interesting.
1) he was hugely impressed with our football and stated that they had not seen as little of the ball at home for a long time.
2) He really believed in the style and added that it will click and goals will come
3) he was amazed at how much space there was on the wings for them when our FB's pressed forward.
I think number 3 is very concerning for this new style, play against teams with good wingers (say utd for example) and we could be very exposed.
It's necessary to hold that high line to press high enough up the field. But it's critical that the LB and RB are mobile and aware. Enrique was all at sea and Wisdom is a rookie. But it's work in progress and I have a very good feeling about this new manager of ours.
Aggers i dont just mean last night though. I agree that it is a new system and will take time but i am concerned that if say united play counter against us on sat they will find a lot of space on the wings and could hurt us very badly.
Well I have to say I've been shocked at how poor Enrique has been over the last 6 months or so! I can't see him staying beyond Jan.
Wisdom showed up enrique.
We're at home SH so their wingers should be worrying about our fullbacks attacking, forcing them deeper. That's the way it should be at home, whilst the midfield cover the fullbacks.
TOOR - i agree and hope it is the case.
I worry that we are a bit naive at times and only |Allen does that covering from midfield?
I do hope the paly Evra because he will not be able to resist getting forward and Sterling (if on the right) could make a mess of him if he's cuaght out of position. I hope they start with scholes and Giggs too as think our 3 man midfield can keep the ball well and tire them early.
Biglaa/Lucas
Im shocked too, i thought he was injured but looks like BR just wasnt playing him. He settled very well early after his transfer but looked very poor last night.
Gerrard will play a bit deeper to help Allen cut out United attacks. My main concern is right footed Johnson vs right footed Valencia. He'll attack Johnson weaker foot as hell but can Johnson handle it?
He was actually injured and has been getting fit. He looks really awful ATM though
I don't think he was injured and it's no secret that BR was looking for a LB.
It seems to me that BR simply won't start ANY of KD's transfers unless he has absolutely no choice.
Enrique is not the best footballer and is utterly one footed.
Johnson can handle Valencia though and if I were Utd I'd be more concerned about Johnson and Sterling going up against Rafael. Works both ways!
Enrique was DEFINITELY injured and has played in the Euro games to get back to match fitness.
No secret BR was looking for a left back? Well it was to me, first I've heard of it.
Also to say BR doesn't want to start Kenny's signings is ridiculous. He starts Suarez every game. Firstly you have to be a good player and secondly you have to play well. None have done that so far apart from Suarez and Henderson's one game last night.
TOOR, apparently several clubs claimed they were offered players, Fulham I believe it was claimed Enrique was one of 4 players they were offered in exchange for Dempsey.
First I heard of that. Must have been one of those ridiculous rumour sites like Metro or something.
Biglaa (U5954)
Spot on about players being offered. Henderson was offered as a makeweight as well to Fulham.
It almost seems like stubbourness about KD's first team signings.
Adam - gone. Carroll - gone. Downing - dropped. Henderson - dropped and offered as makeweight. Enrique - dropped and offered as makeweight.
I'll get good money that Johnson stays at LB until jan, that Downing is gone next summer.
The only one he plays is Suarez, probably because he is very good at football and because he has to.
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posted on 21/9/12
I was very concerned at how often we were penetrated by Young Boys.
posted on 21/9/12
I like your style aggers
posted on 21/9/12
New system with a totally different defensive plan to it.
The midfield is not active enough in protecting the defence as well.
The system requires constant pressing from everyone on the pitch
posted on 21/9/12
As Lucas says the issues are due to the new style. You cant be more attacking without being less defensive. You cant be more fluid without being less compact. It's about finding a balance and from the Sunderland game I found that we are getting there.
posted on 21/9/12
Concerning the sunderland game. I have a mate who is a ST holder up there and his view was really interesting.
1) he was hugely impressed with our football and stated that they had not seen as little of the ball at home for a long time.
2) He really believed in the style and added that it will click and goals will come
3) he was amazed at how much space there was on the wings for them when our FB's pressed forward.
I think number 3 is very concerning for this new style, play against teams with good wingers (say utd for example) and we could be very exposed.
posted on 21/9/12
It's necessary to hold that high line to press high enough up the field. But it's critical that the LB and RB are mobile and aware. Enrique was all at sea and Wisdom is a rookie. But it's work in progress and I have a very good feeling about this new manager of ours.
posted on 21/9/12
Aggers i dont just mean last night though. I agree that it is a new system and will take time but i am concerned that if say united play counter against us on sat they will find a lot of space on the wings and could hurt us very badly.
posted on 21/9/12
Well I have to say I've been shocked at how poor Enrique has been over the last 6 months or so! I can't see him staying beyond Jan.
posted on 21/9/12
Wisdom showed up enrique.
posted on 21/9/12
We're at home SH so their wingers should be worrying about our fullbacks attacking, forcing them deeper. That's the way it should be at home, whilst the midfield cover the fullbacks.
posted on 21/9/12
TOOR - i agree and hope it is the case.
I worry that we are a bit naive at times and only |Allen does that covering from midfield?
I do hope the paly Evra because he will not be able to resist getting forward and Sterling (if on the right) could make a mess of him if he's cuaght out of position. I hope they start with scholes and Giggs too as think our 3 man midfield can keep the ball well and tire them early.
posted on 21/9/12
Biglaa/Lucas
Im shocked too, i thought he was injured but looks like BR just wasnt playing him. He settled very well early after his transfer but looked very poor last night.
posted on 21/9/12
Gerrard will play a bit deeper to help Allen cut out United attacks. My main concern is right footed Johnson vs right footed Valencia. He'll attack Johnson weaker foot as hell but can Johnson handle it?
posted on 21/9/12
He was actually injured and has been getting fit. He looks really awful ATM though
posted on 21/9/12
I don't think he was injured and it's no secret that BR was looking for a LB.
It seems to me that BR simply won't start ANY of KD's transfers unless he has absolutely no choice.
Enrique is not the best footballer and is utterly one footed.
Johnson can handle Valencia though and if I were Utd I'd be more concerned about Johnson and Sterling going up against Rafael. Works both ways!
posted on 21/9/12
Enrique was DEFINITELY injured and has played in the Euro games to get back to match fitness.
No secret BR was looking for a left back? Well it was to me, first I've heard of it.
Also to say BR doesn't want to start Kenny's signings is ridiculous. He starts Suarez every game. Firstly you have to be a good player and secondly you have to play well. None have done that so far apart from Suarez and Henderson's one game last night.
posted on 21/9/12
TOOR, apparently several clubs claimed they were offered players, Fulham I believe it was claimed Enrique was one of 4 players they were offered in exchange for Dempsey.
posted on 21/9/12
First I heard of that. Must have been one of those ridiculous rumour sites like Metro or something.
posted on 21/9/12
Biglaa (U5954)
Spot on about players being offered. Henderson was offered as a makeweight as well to Fulham.
It almost seems like stubbourness about KD's first team signings.
Adam - gone. Carroll - gone. Downing - dropped. Henderson - dropped and offered as makeweight. Enrique - dropped and offered as makeweight.
I'll get good money that Johnson stays at LB until jan, that Downing is gone next summer.
The only one he plays is Suarez, probably because he is very good at football and because he has to.
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