has anybody got a shot gun I could borrow?
I saw the headline and thought Sir Geoffrey was making a comeback!
what happened to you RSL? - how is it you ended up a bitter old man?
I am a fighter not bitter,will fight all the way
Bates Out
Anyone seen that film, what's it called...
Groundhog Day
RSL, how are you fighting though
you post your carp on JA606, where about 30 people read it, and all vote 1 star..... ridiculous....
Bates is not stupid,he knows his business plan is failing,hence he is trying to sell, probably at an unrealistic price.
That price will become more realistic if he has cash flow problems.
Again and again why won't you do it why won't you do it agaiiinnnnn???...
Oh you have!.
Now then Mr I know its hurting Bates, tell me,(US!)how its hurting him?..
RSL, so, you post the same thing to about 30 posters, and you think you are 'fighting' - what a lonely world you must live in....
the people I've come across in my lifetime, that sit at home all day, skint, bitter and twisted and blaming everybody else for thier own misfortunes is unreal..... its not healthy RSL,
I offered you freindship, I offered you to play at my chess club, you turned me down, I honestly thought at the time that you'd just no interest or no time for chess now, I thought fair enough, but now I just think you are a depressed, bitter and twisted man, who sits at home blaming Bates or who ever for our misfortunes... it's not too late RSL, turn it round.... life is too short mate.
Lets be frank here, in 30 years time Im guessing you'll either be an old man, or a dead man, I think you should have a real think about things mate..
"I'm a fighter, I'll fight bates till I die", oh please
I'm not bitter, depressed or twisted. I'm certainly not stuck at home. I'm definitely not skint.
Crowds are dwindling. People do, inevitably, vote with their feet.
Bates has, in the not too distant past, referred to his "break even" figure regarding home attendances. I can't recall exactly what that was but it was somewhere around the 24,000 figure.
We're down on that. Whether Bates & Co is making a loss or not making enough profit is open to debate but it's making him seek investment or even consider selling.
When you consider the crowds we've attracted in the recent past and where the crowds are now then there are more than the 30 odd referred to on here who are no longer trekking into ER.
I've stopped going to for reasons I've articulated before. I don't agree with the way my club has been run, I object to paying above the odds for sub-standard football seeing whatever quality we've nurtured over the years disappear to pastures new simply because we have no ambition.
Players' contracts have been a perennial problem and the way in which Leeds United have managed them to date under Bates' tenure borders on being scandalous.
Why should I invest in something that gives little or nothing in return. Bates set the bar himself and has done little to get anywhere close to it.
When he goes, I'll go back. I've saved a fortune thus far so I guess I should be thanking the Bearded Wonder!! I've also spent more time with my wife...., perhaps I've been a bit premature in thanking the Master!!
Crowds are only down cos we not winning
Simple as that.
? We're not winning because the team and squad are not up to scratch. Not up to scratch because we sell our talent and replace with lesser able players (or not at all). Pricing strategy is poor too.
gates were better in L1
many have had enough of Bates and what he brings
Tuscany, you try and make out i am bitter etc
Try looking at what is actually happening
Bates is destroying
stevie, I didn't call you bitter or twisted, nor was it for the reason of not attending ER...
it was for RSL, who beleives he is fighting Bates (and winning) by posting the same rubbish every day..
also, bluememe, has a point,
By what number/percentage are the crowds down, this season?
Stevie, I'm not a fan of Bates, I'm only trying to find out why people think its taking anything away from Bates, because I've said a few times, his fotune isn't in Leeds United, that's where nobody is going to get it!..
I think Warnock isn't getting what he was promissed on coming, and the old manager lost out because of the same reasons and you've mentioned most of them there!..
not winning meme?
Before the hull match we were Won 2 Drawn 1 Lost 1 and less than 20000 its poor
RSL, crowds were up in L1 because we were always near the top IMO... but yeah you aqre right there I suppose......
I am looking at what Bates is doing RSL, what I'm saying is matem, that you've let it ruin your life... it doesn;t ruin mine because I have more things going on other than an obsession to fight Bates, with an army of none
get a grip man
Ruin my life?
How the devil do you know about my life?
Really tuscany you should know better
Making assumptions without knowing the reality is hardly very bright
I can only go on what I read.... its the way you come across....
if we did a poll to the 30 606ers you post to, you know, the ones you say you are fightuing for, how many would say you are a manic depressive?
think about it
Bates has actually paid for 2 holidays
I can actually see what is happening before many do,I think ahead.
Tuscany - I wasn't suggesting you were mate. Simply saying that I have similar views on dealing with Bates.
LUFC - I'm certain Bates has money, a fair bit made off the back of Leeds United too no doubt. But that's exactly the reason why he won't want that income stream curtailed unless he's wiping his hands of it. He borrowed against future ticket sales to fund the so-called improvements in the East Stand. There's little or nothing he can do now as the crown jewels in the squad have all but gone. He needs third party investment to realise his own ambitions. Dwindling crowds affect match day income but will also have a marked effect on commercial investment. My business deals with one of Bates' commercial partners, they've held meetings with the Bearded Wonder lately as they're concerned about how their "investment" in Leeds United is holding up.
A football club without it's fan base is nothing. Bates would have a white elephant on his hands and administration would follow pretty quickly.
Quite right StevieDee and that is why Bates wants to sell
No fans no money NO Bates
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posted on 21/9/12
has anybody got a shot gun I could borrow?
posted on 21/9/12
the truth hurts
posted on 21/9/12
I saw the headline and thought Sir Geoffrey was making a comeback!
posted on 21/9/12
what happened to you RSL? - how is it you ended up a bitter old man?
posted on 21/9/12
I am a fighter not bitter,will fight all the way
Bates Out
posted on 21/9/12
Anyone seen that film, what's it called...
Groundhog Day
posted on 21/9/12
RSL, how are you fighting though
you post your carp on JA606, where about 30 people read it, and all vote 1 star..... ridiculous....
posted on 21/9/12
Bates is not stupid,he knows his business plan is failing,hence he is trying to sell, probably at an unrealistic price.
That price will become more realistic if he has cash flow problems.
posted on 21/9/12
fooook me
posted on 21/9/12
Again and again why won't you do it why won't you do it agaiiinnnnn???...
Oh you have!.
Now then Mr I know its hurting Bates, tell me,(US!)how its hurting him?..
posted on 21/9/12
RSL, so, you post the same thing to about 30 posters, and you think you are 'fighting' - what a lonely world you must live in....
the people I've come across in my lifetime, that sit at home all day, skint, bitter and twisted and blaming everybody else for thier own misfortunes is unreal..... its not healthy RSL,
I offered you freindship, I offered you to play at my chess club, you turned me down, I honestly thought at the time that you'd just no interest or no time for chess now, I thought fair enough, but now I just think you are a depressed, bitter and twisted man, who sits at home blaming Bates or who ever for our misfortunes... it's not too late RSL, turn it round.... life is too short mate.
Lets be frank here, in 30 years time Im guessing you'll either be an old man, or a dead man, I think you should have a real think about things mate..
"I'm a fighter, I'll fight bates till I die", oh please
posted on 21/9/12
I'm not bitter, depressed or twisted. I'm certainly not stuck at home. I'm definitely not skint.
Crowds are dwindling. People do, inevitably, vote with their feet.
Bates has, in the not too distant past, referred to his "break even" figure regarding home attendances. I can't recall exactly what that was but it was somewhere around the 24,000 figure.
We're down on that. Whether Bates & Co is making a loss or not making enough profit is open to debate but it's making him seek investment or even consider selling.
When you consider the crowds we've attracted in the recent past and where the crowds are now then there are more than the 30 odd referred to on here who are no longer trekking into ER.
I've stopped going to for reasons I've articulated before. I don't agree with the way my club has been run, I object to paying above the odds for sub-standard football seeing whatever quality we've nurtured over the years disappear to pastures new simply because we have no ambition.
Players' contracts have been a perennial problem and the way in which Leeds United have managed them to date under Bates' tenure borders on being scandalous.
Why should I invest in something that gives little or nothing in return. Bates set the bar himself and has done little to get anywhere close to it.
When he goes, I'll go back. I've saved a fortune thus far so I guess I should be thanking the Bearded Wonder!! I've also spent more time with my wife...., perhaps I've been a bit premature in thanking the Master!!
posted on 21/9/12
Crowds are only down cos we not winning
Simple as that.
posted on 21/9/12
? We're not winning because the team and squad are not up to scratch. Not up to scratch because we sell our talent and replace with lesser able players (or not at all). Pricing strategy is poor too.
posted on 21/9/12
gates were better in L1
many have had enough of Bates and what he brings
Tuscany, you try and make out i am bitter etc
Try looking at what is actually happening
Bates is destroying
posted on 21/9/12
stevie, I didn't call you bitter or twisted, nor was it for the reason of not attending ER...
it was for RSL, who beleives he is fighting Bates (and winning) by posting the same rubbish every day..
also, bluememe, has a point,
posted on 21/9/12
By what number/percentage are the crowds down, this season?
posted on 21/9/12
Stevie, I'm not a fan of Bates, I'm only trying to find out why people think its taking anything away from Bates, because I've said a few times, his fotune isn't in Leeds United, that's where nobody is going to get it!..
I think Warnock isn't getting what he was promissed on coming, and the old manager lost out because of the same reasons and you've mentioned most of them there!..
posted on 21/9/12
not winning meme?
Before the hull match we were Won 2 Drawn 1 Lost 1 and less than 20000 its poor
posted on 21/9/12
RSL, crowds were up in L1 because we were always near the top IMO... but yeah you aqre right there I suppose......
I am looking at what Bates is doing RSL, what I'm saying is matem, that you've let it ruin your life... it doesn;t ruin mine because I have more things going on other than an obsession to fight Bates, with an army of none
get a grip man
posted on 21/9/12
Ruin my life?
How the devil do you know about my life?
Really tuscany you should know better
Making assumptions without knowing the reality is hardly very bright
posted on 21/9/12
I can only go on what I read.... its the way you come across....
if we did a poll to the 30 606ers you post to, you know, the ones you say you are fightuing for, how many would say you are a manic depressive?
think about it
posted on 21/9/12
Bates has actually paid for 2 holidays
I can actually see what is happening before many do,I think ahead.
posted on 21/9/12
Tuscany - I wasn't suggesting you were mate. Simply saying that I have similar views on dealing with Bates.
LUFC - I'm certain Bates has money, a fair bit made off the back of Leeds United too no doubt. But that's exactly the reason why he won't want that income stream curtailed unless he's wiping his hands of it. He borrowed against future ticket sales to fund the so-called improvements in the East Stand. There's little or nothing he can do now as the crown jewels in the squad have all but gone. He needs third party investment to realise his own ambitions. Dwindling crowds affect match day income but will also have a marked effect on commercial investment. My business deals with one of Bates' commercial partners, they've held meetings with the Bearded Wonder lately as they're concerned about how their "investment" in Leeds United is holding up.
A football club without it's fan base is nothing. Bates would have a white elephant on his hands and administration would follow pretty quickly.
posted on 21/9/12
Quite right StevieDee and that is why Bates wants to sell
No fans no money NO Bates
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