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I've not seen it before and neither have you.

itsonlyagame;

mañana mañana

If those players reach their potential then they will leave if we are midtable. We are so far off fourth it's silly. We let in goals, we don't score and we're getting outplayed in midfield by the likes of Mikel.

As said if you can find a precedent where what you are proposing has brought success then I'm all for it. But you can't.

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Nice one. I suspect you'll see it for another few years yet as well. Buckle up.

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"Based on what?"

12 points.

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Yep. I highlight how many times.people have written certain things within threads.

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As said if you can find a precedent where what you are proposing has brought success then I'm all for it. But you can't.
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Different circumstances, but only last year Juve improved 26 points in the league and went from 10 defeats and finishing out of Europe to winning the Scudetto unbeaten.

In 09, Barça improved 20 points in the league and won a European/domestic treble with 11 players who'd come through their youth system.

Circumstances in both cases were admittedly different to Liverpool's, but other leagues have witnessed huge turnaround in a very short space of time.

I've also been around long enough to remember Real Madrid bringing through 5 teenage youth teamers and end a 5-year Liga drought the following season.

Chopping and changing managers and approaches every season (or half season) is a dangerous dynamic.

terminator, I am neither blind nor in a coma, I fully understand your frustration in our reliance on Luis, and I share that feeling. Who knows who will be coming to the club, as I've said, it's a case of, lets wait and see. It won't have escaped your attention either that young Tom Ince is featuring heavily in the press as a golden boy. Have we made (yet another) mistake in selling him? jimmyTheRed

But surely Jimmy, if you think we are over reliant on Suarez, then we should be looking at bringing know an experienced, proven goalscorer? With those attributes, you're looking at someone in their late twenties. On the basis of one player of that age who's struggling at Sours, you've dismissed this as folly. Conflicting messages....

Realistically, it hinges on whether BR can shift Carroll, Downing etc. Other than what he brings in through sales he's not going to have a lot of money to chuck around.

look people who are mentioning the likes of bony and austin, whilst i agree that they may be decent signings, do you not agree that we need someone with proven top level ability. the central striker is so important to any team. borini isn't good enough thats why he got pushed out wide. we need a top drawer striker. zaha would be another good addition but he's a winger. you can to some degree get away with having average wingers so long as the spine of your team is strong. look at the days of rafa when we had the spine of reina, carra, agger, masch, alonso, gerrard and torres! we had terrible players in the wide areas but we still came second in the league.

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Nope, I asked why you kept writing it. You lied and I then pointed out how many times you had written it. Still never got an answer as to why you keep writing it.
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I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about I'm afraid. Lied? I really don't know what you're looking for.

I kept writing it because from the tone of some of the posts they do not seem to understand where we are. It has been our worst start in 100 years.

The problem is not a striker. It would be if Luis got injured but he scores a goal a game at the moment in the single striker spot. Urgo we have 12 points and only 2 wins in the league due to other factors.

Letting in lots of goals being one.

*Ergo

Lets take rodgers assesment that he wants to sign three players.

I can see us going for one from each of these groups of players

Striker: KJH, llorente (the one i think most likely/hope we get the most) Walcott, bony, austin

Wide player: sturridge, walcott, zaha.

Youngster/backup: pohjanpalo, bony, zaha.

The way i see at (as illustrated above) i think BR will want one striker (hopefully he will go for one of the proven two) he will want an additional wide player for the right, walcott and sturridge add a bit more experience over zaha, who could still qualify under what i see as the third category of Young player/backup.

Personally to take one from each category id like Llorente, walcott, bony

Llorente or KJH im not overly fussed which, but id like ONE of them, id throw bony in there too, but i think the other two will be cheaper, and being proven at the top levels make more sense, i also think FSG will relax their rules a LITTLE on this one, to try to stem the growing stream of bile hurled at them by a minority of our fanbase (the ignorant ones that burn american flags, and a certain spanish players shirt no doubts...)

Id take walcott over sturridge and zaha because A) more experienced than them both, and B) the other two allegedly have huge egos and we have a lot of kids around, id say walcott and sturridge are similar in playing ability at the moment, but who do you want the kids at the club learning from? the money chasing, perennial troublemaker sturridge? zaha whos been a star in a small team and has a huge ego? or walcott, the down to earth players who tries very hard, is never really in the press, settled with his pre stardom girlfriend... hes perfect for helping bring through our youth

And finally bony good young player brings something different with his height. hes like a more advanced ngoo, good feet, good head, tall, strong..

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I expected what we are getting as I predicted we would not make the top 10 way back in August.

I'm not sure what other people are expecting though. I've said it before. 8th and two cup finals does not look so bad now does it.

Last year we came 8th because we hit the bar and post 33 times and missed 5 or 6 peno's.

This year........

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Good. I think you're wrong and I am of the opinion that press conferences don't mean jack to result.

Maybe we can talk our way to the top.

Last was better than this year so far and will most likely end better as well. Still best tear it all up and start again. Again.

By the way - tactics were poor? You don;t get to two finals by tactics being poor. If his tactics were poor what about now. Good tactics wins games. We've won two. Kenny had to start a new system as well you know.

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Greatteams.

We're Kenny's tactics poor when we beat Chelsea home and away? What about when we won at Man City or battered Utd at Anfield?
You don't have a 25 year management career without having the ability to alter tactics when necessary. BR has a lot to learn from him.
The fact is; we were hovering around the top four until Jan/Feb of this year and then our form took a dip (like most clubs 18 months from almost going out of business would). You may not like it, but it's a fact.

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