I think it is only a matter of time before a salary cap is introduced.

Wondered how long it would before before the blame was laid squarely at united's door..............pathetic.

United ruined football Earl, didn't you know that?

Capping transfer fees and wages would be totally detrimental to the premier league as a whole. Why would the top players want to come here if they could get better wages elsewhere in Europe. Same for transfer fees clubs would simply sell their players for top dollar and if they couldn't get it here they would sell abroad.

Yes, something needs to be done about player wages, but it properly needs to be thought through. Ultimately, where else do people want the money to go to? The owners? When you buy a cd, or go and see a band, would you want the money you pay for it to go to the record company rather than the musicians?

Now for me, I would want to see either money reinvested in to grass roots football, or the average ticket price declining, however I cannot see either of them happening as it would mean that investors would just pull out of football altogether and it really would be screwed.

Ultimately, and I know this is controversial, but we as fans have to take a portion of the blame if we have a problem with the amount of money there currently is in football. Despite astronomical ticket increases over the last twenty years, the average attendances have also increased. Subscriptions to Sky Sports have gone up year on year as well. Yes, there has been high profile clubs that have gone bust, but that does not negate the fact that football is a massively lucrative business nowadays (and a lot of the problems for me have been down to the fit and proper persons test, it isn't actually fit.......or proper).

The only way that football will properly look at itself is really if there is a fan boycott of both Sky and attending matches.

For me, that's about as likely as hafijur losing his virginity...

meltonblue

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)

posted 28 minutes ago

I think it is only a matter of time before a salary cap is introduced.
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It along with a transfer fee cap should have been introduced long ago and thus all clubs can offer the same.

comment by Cityblueloz City are still alive here, balotelli agueroooooooooooooooooooooooo (U6305) posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago

Toor that's why united fans are so up for ffp, it benefits them the most.

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Makes not one jot of difference what the fans think.

We won't be making the decisions.

I think it's apparent that something needs to be done but what needs to be asked is - is FFP right? Is it fair? I don't think it is.

Limit on what can be spent in a year.
Limit on transfer fee for one player.
Limit on wage spent in a year.
Limit on wage spent on one player.

For me that is enough.

"And you don't need to be a genius to work out why City fans are opposed to fair play."

I'm a City fan and I'm opposed to it, but not for the reasons I imagine you are thinking. The only way for any team to sustain a title challenge currently is through outside investment, which is what happened to us. I would absolutely prefer a world where the PL starts and 10 teams have a chance of winning it, however that just cannot happen due to the riches that the CL and television have brought in at the very top.

A transfer or wage cap does nothing to solve that either, the top teams will just poach the best players as youngsters (like Arsenal have done, or tried to do, for the last 15 years...) and the money will just end up going to the owners.

To make football both financially and competitively fair, a lot more needs to happen than just ffp.

"Limit on what can be spent in a year.
Limit on transfer fee for one player.
Limit on wage spent in a year.
Limit on wage spent on one player."

Limit based on what? The same for each team? You do that, and either investors leave, or they get richer than they ever have done before. Either way, the knock on effect is huge.

Yeah, same for each team. I'm not sure why investors would leave. They came for a reason, either to make money, limits of fees don't stop that, or just for the fun of it, limits on fees won't stop that either.

Simply it means that all clubs can spend the same amount of money as everybody else but limits it so that one club can't spend 500m whilst another can only spend £20m.

People say clubs risk going under etc etc due to debts. Stop the bank loans then! Stop owners buying clubs with loans(Hicks and Gillet, Glaziers) etc.

Transfer and wage caps would only be viable in football if they were made compulsory world wide.

Exactly.

I agree that a club should operate within it's means when it comes to wages. For example, a club must be able to sustain itself should owner investment suddenlt cease for whatever reason. Player contracts are not monthly, they can be for many years obviously and the club/company should be able to sustain that internally

What I have never agreed with is being able to prevent an owner investing cash in the clubs for players. I see no reason whatsoever providing the club can sustain the wages of said player

Preventing one-off investments by owners just prevents money coming into the game, some of which that would eventually filter down to the lower leagues unless it's been spent abroad and even then, it's still within the game.

The only ever gripe I'd had with the sugardaddy situation (And United too have benefited in the distant past) is that if ALL clubs had them, the game would become very stupid very quickly and the need for capping would be very apparant so why shouldn't the capping begin before that situation (yeah i know it will never be the case) starts to happen

There are pros and cons when it comes to the game itself when it comes to FFP and such but like TOOR said earlier.... why now?

What has suddenly changed?

Macca

IMO outside investment should be legitimate income aslong as the owner makes a commitment. It's the likes of Madrid and barca, who lose hundreds of millions a year that need to be stopped. And the smaller clubs who gamble on their premiership status to survive that need controlling

I'm not blaming united for anything so don't get your knickers in a twist I'm simply stating its funny when your fans go on about ffp like they actually give a damm about it.

I'm against ffp as it would stop another club say Everton who would benefit from outside investment ever having a shot at the top, also maintaining the status quo of united arsenal Liverpool who have bigger fan bases having the champions league places sown up an intern getting more money.

The only fair thing to do is introduce a sallary cap and wage cap, the money being spent on player Wages is grotesque to the man on the terraces "I know they don't have them any more"

Macca

Paul McCartney earned £50M (approx.) last year - shall we cap his wages too?

Personally i'd start with capping agent fees. Set a maximum of 100k per deal instead of the millions they get from percentage deals thus driving up prices to fuel their profits.

I support wage and transfer caps but I am afraid that it will have a negative effect on the game, the laws of demand and supply should be allowed to prevail, moreover if other owners can borrow a leaf from Roman then all will be well, Chelsea is not likely to spend foolishly like they did on Torres again.

Agents are the real Cancer in football, they are probably the reason that Rooney thought his team mates were suddenly cr@p and the reason CR7 is suddenly feeling sad, to start with they were a good idea but they now have far too much say,
Rednapp has mentioned on several occassions when he hasn't been playing a player the agent has been onto him asking for an explanation, surely this isn't right

Rednapp has mentioned on several occassions when he hasn't been playing a player the agent has been onto him asking for an explanation, surely this isn't right

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redknapp said so? out of all the people you choose to listen to, you have selected a motormouth gobshyyyte?