comment by Jimmy Holmes Tache (U9785)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yellow. Rash,mis-timed but yellow. The theatrics didn't help matters
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It's funny how it's literally only some spurs fans who think this. Football Bias at its worst. If this tackle had been reversed (Cazorla on Adebayor) it'd most likely have been a red in your eyes.
One of the things I despise most about football is when fans are so biased it borders delusion. it's the same as the Liverpool fans who booed Evra, and the Chelsea fans who booed Ferdinand and sung John Terry's name in support of his race trial.
Adebayor was stupid exactly like Crouch against Real Madrid !!
christhegunner
bit harsh - virtually all spurs fans have given an honest appraisal and you're picking out the one guy that said it was a yellow.
if it was the other way around, there would be similar comments from a handful of arsenal fans - every club has them - so pipe down with the criticism unless or stop the generalising!
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undercovermancgooner..........................immy - last time I looked a two footed, studs up, high, late tackle was a red card.
Bet you any money you like it won't be appealed and if it does, it won't get overturned.
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Did you actually watch the game????? It was NOT A TWO FOOTED TACKLE!!!!!
No malicious intent. A classic strikers poor tackle.
Sent off for what could have happened if the contact had been worse.
No arguments with that one.
PS: He deserved to go as RDBD says for what might have resulted in a serious injury.
Poor mistimed tackle & most forwards are not good tacklers. Although I am amazed that Paul Scholes does not get sent off more often, his tackling is legendary & awful!!!
Two-feet isn't always dangerous anyway.
Studs-up, straight leg and high always is - Ade's challenge fell in to this category
aww...good ol' scholsey...just can't tackle bless him.....
no..he can't...but it does not make them any less a foul....
Sorry people, been busy at work. My reasons for it not being a straight red. Firstly, as someone has already said, it wasn't two footed. Which would and should of been a red. Secondly,if a home team player would of made that challenge,(not necessarily a gooon,) it would only get a yellow. It was a cop out by Webb brought on by over reaction by players. Two footed lunges are red, that shouldn't have been.
comment by Jimmy Holmes Tache (U9785) posted 9 minutes ago
Sorry people, been busy at work. My reasons for it not being a straight red. Firstly, as someone has already said, it wasn't two footed. Which would and should of been a red. Secondly,if a home team player would of made that challenge,(not necessarily a gooon,) it would only get a yellow. It was a cop out by Webb brought on by over reaction by players. Two footed lunges are red, that shouldn't have been.
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Two-feet tackles are not always dangerous, it's how the leading leg(s) is/are and how high that is the danger.
One-footed with a straight leg locked at the knee and studs-up is far more dangerous than two-footed with knee's been
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Secondly,if a home team player would of made that challenge
So many people do this these days - stating something that hasn't happened as a fact and using it as a basis for an opinion.
What utter tosh!
Don't agree at all. The two footed stamp is the worst tackle in football. You make contact with a two footed stamp the injury will always be worse than a challenge like Ade put in.I'm saying what Ade did was reckless and naive but did not warrant a red.
Winston, you saying that every time you've seen a challenge like Saturdays one it's always resulted in a sending off?
No - how could you possible derive that from what I've said?
I merely said that the comment about if it has been an Arsenal player it'd have been a yellow is utter nonsense.
Didn't say if it was an arsenal player, said home player. It's a bit of a cop out. All most football want is consistency, which is in short demand because I think away teams (not just Spurs before you jump on the bandwagon,) get a raw deal.
Same thing - stating that a home player would have got a yellow for the same offence is ludicrous.
You're saying something that hasn't happened and using it as a fact.
Looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree then,eh?
Winston (U16525)
Sorry, really late reply, work and all that,
Just to clarify I wasn't saying 'all spurs fans' think it was a yelly, the point I was making to the chap (or chappette) who said it was a yellow, was that you wouldn't find anyone outside of Spurs' support who thought it was a yellow.
By no means was I trying to have a dig at spurs in general, just people who are blinded by their club loyalty that they try and justify anything.
Well you can disagree all you like.
It's a fact that what you're saying is a complete invention - it hasn't happened.
There's no proof whatsoever that decisions like that generally result in a red for the away side and a yellow for the home side.
No worries christhegunner - though I think you could perhaps acknowledge that the vast majority of Spurs fans agree with you!
Strange that, in my local after the game on Saturday it was about 70/30 split. Even 2 gooons said they weren't sure. It's all about opinions. I happen to believe that north London derbies now are a million miles away from what they used to be in the 80's. But I guess that's just the way football is now. As for justifying anything, it was a late challenge not a murder.
It would be easy to take if it wasn't Webb.
While it was a bit dangerous (if footballers want to play in a risk free game perhaps they should take up netball), it was not deliberate or malicious, and is a tackle that I think not every ref would see as a straight red. While it is not a defence, I do agree that if it was someone like Gerrard in a home game then the decision could have been different.
There are plenty of out of control lunges (not 2 footed, not a stamp) that avoid a red card.
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posted on 19/11/12
comment by Jimmy Holmes Tache (U9785)
posted 4 minutes ago
Yellow. Rash,mis-timed but yellow. The theatrics didn't help matters
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It's funny how it's literally only some spurs fans who think this. Football Bias at its worst. If this tackle had been reversed (Cazorla on Adebayor) it'd most likely have been a red in your eyes.
One of the things I despise most about football is when fans are so biased it borders delusion. it's the same as the Liverpool fans who booed Evra, and the Chelsea fans who booed Ferdinand and sung John Terry's name in support of his race trial.
posted on 19/11/12
Adebayor was stupid exactly like Crouch against Real Madrid !!
posted on 19/11/12
christhegunner
bit harsh - virtually all spurs fans have given an honest appraisal and you're picking out the one guy that said it was a yellow.
if it was the other way around, there would be similar comments from a handful of arsenal fans - every club has them - so pipe down with the criticism unless or stop the generalising!
posted on 19/11/12
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posted on 19/11/12
undercovermancgooner..........................immy - last time I looked a two footed, studs up, high, late tackle was a red card.
Bet you any money you like it won't be appealed and if it does, it won't get overturned.
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Did you actually watch the game????? It was NOT A TWO FOOTED TACKLE!!!!!
posted on 19/11/12
No malicious intent. A classic strikers poor tackle.
Sent off for what could have happened if the contact had been worse.
No arguments with that one.
posted on 19/11/12
PS: He deserved to go as RDBD says for what might have resulted in a serious injury.
Poor mistimed tackle & most forwards are not good tacklers. Although I am amazed that Paul Scholes does not get sent off more often, his tackling is legendary & awful!!!
posted on 19/11/12
Two-feet isn't always dangerous anyway.
Studs-up, straight leg and high always is - Ade's challenge fell in to this category
posted on 19/11/12
aww...good ol' scholsey...just can't tackle bless him.....
no..he can't...but it does not make them any less a foul....
posted on 19/11/12
Sorry people, been busy at work. My reasons for it not being a straight red. Firstly, as someone has already said, it wasn't two footed. Which would and should of been a red. Secondly,if a home team player would of made that challenge,(not necessarily a gooon,) it would only get a yellow. It was a cop out by Webb brought on by over reaction by players. Two footed lunges are red, that shouldn't have been.
posted on 19/11/12
comment by Jimmy Holmes Tache (U9785) posted 9 minutes ago
Sorry people, been busy at work. My reasons for it not being a straight red. Firstly, as someone has already said, it wasn't two footed. Which would and should of been a red. Secondly,if a home team player would of made that challenge,(not necessarily a gooon,) it would only get a yellow. It was a cop out by Webb brought on by over reaction by players. Two footed lunges are red, that shouldn't have been.
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Two-feet tackles are not always dangerous, it's how the leading leg(s) is/are and how high that is the danger.
One-footed with a straight leg locked at the knee and studs-up is far more dangerous than two-footed with knee's been
posted on 19/11/12
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posted on 19/11/12
Secondly,if a home team player would of made that challenge
So many people do this these days - stating something that hasn't happened as a fact and using it as a basis for an opinion.
What utter tosh!
posted on 19/11/12
Don't agree at all. The two footed stamp is the worst tackle in football. You make contact with a two footed stamp the injury will always be worse than a challenge like Ade put in.I'm saying what Ade did was reckless and naive but did not warrant a red.
posted on 19/11/12
Winston, you saying that every time you've seen a challenge like Saturdays one it's always resulted in a sending off?
posted on 19/11/12
No - how could you possible derive that from what I've said?
I merely said that the comment about if it has been an Arsenal player it'd have been a yellow is utter nonsense.
posted on 19/11/12
Didn't say if it was an arsenal player, said home player. It's a bit of a cop out. All most football want is consistency, which is in short demand because I think away teams (not just Spurs before you jump on the bandwagon,) get a raw deal.
posted on 19/11/12
Same thing - stating that a home player would have got a yellow for the same offence is ludicrous.
You're saying something that hasn't happened and using it as a fact.
posted on 19/11/12
Looks like we'll just have to agree to disagree then,eh?
posted on 19/11/12
Winston (U16525)
Sorry, really late reply, work and all that,
Just to clarify I wasn't saying 'all spurs fans' think it was a yelly, the point I was making to the chap (or chappette) who said it was a yellow, was that you wouldn't find anyone outside of Spurs' support who thought it was a yellow.
By no means was I trying to have a dig at spurs in general, just people who are blinded by their club loyalty that they try and justify anything.
posted on 19/11/12
Well you can disagree all you like.
It's a fact that what you're saying is a complete invention - it hasn't happened.
There's no proof whatsoever that decisions like that generally result in a red for the away side and a yellow for the home side.
posted on 19/11/12
No worries christhegunner - though I think you could perhaps acknowledge that the vast majority of Spurs fans agree with you!
posted on 19/11/12
Strange that, in my local after the game on Saturday it was about 70/30 split. Even 2 gooons said they weren't sure. It's all about opinions. I happen to believe that north London derbies now are a million miles away from what they used to be in the 80's. But I guess that's just the way football is now. As for justifying anything, it was a late challenge not a murder.
posted on 19/11/12
It would be easy to take if it wasn't Webb.
While it was a bit dangerous (if footballers want to play in a risk free game perhaps they should take up netball), it was not deliberate or malicious, and is a tackle that I think not every ref would see as a straight red. While it is not a defence, I do agree that if it was someone like Gerrard in a home game then the decision could have been different.
There are plenty of out of control lunges (not 2 footed, not a stamp) that avoid a red card.
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