El Pistolero (U1304)

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Epic Strawman, ad Hominen, WUM Magic on LFC board. Running flacid :•} (U4311)

I don't like camping

The problem with you Liverpool fans is you just can't take any criticism that is aimed at your club and you like to talk, talk talk and say how much better your team is than everybody elses before a ball has been kicked.

Arsenal need to spend, but the fact is even if Nasri AND Fabregas left, which won't happen, they would still be better than Liverpool. Ramsey and Wilshere are better than any LFC midfielder. Wilshere certainly is streets ahead of Henderson and Ramsey is much better than Charlie Adam.

Ridicule Arsenal all you want, I couldn't care less, but it comes as no surprise to me that you've beaten them once in your last 11 attempts.

I'm no Arsenal fan by any stretch of the imagination but they are streets ahead of any other team outside the top 4 IMO.

If Liverpool finish inside the top 4 and ABOVE Arsenal, I promise to write a full apology on the Liverpool board and after that I will never post on the Liverpool board again.

I'm saying from a purely football point of view, that your team isn't anywhere near as good as Arsenal's despite the £100m+ you've spent. Alonso and Mascherano + overreliance on Gerrard and Torres were the only things keeping you afloat i.e inside the top 4, now they've all gone you won't get back in, particularly with City being where they are.

Your run under Dalgleish was flash in the pan, notice how you lost BOTH of your last two games as soon as he put pen to paper. You'll be lucky to finish 5th IMO

If Bendtner could get consistent football in a mid-table club or a team like Hamburg in Bundesliga, I have no doubt he'd outperform Carroll.

One important thing that's being missed here is that Carroll has come from a big club and is now playing at an even bigger club.
I think he'd be mad to 'take a backwards step' in his career and consider playing for one of the many smaller London clubs.

comment by jonafc for real - free luka and all rats (U1385)

posted 1 minute ago

honestly the first time i saw this guy and i did not know who he was, my reaction was who is this donkey he looks like a Sunday league footballer from your local pub. The only thing he seems to have is presence but that might be all he needs if he bangs the goals in. I mean Chamakh might be more technically gifted but I would suspect Caroll will be far more successful. No Caroll is not technical enough for Arsenal.
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That's why Arsenal will never be what they wish to be soon.
You don't always need the most technically gifted to succeed.

You need tactics. TBH Carroll wouldn't be in my plan A but if plan A fails then he can step as plan B - send it to the wing and cross.

Anyway I'm off now Scousers, I'll be back to humiliate you all again this evening

Yes Batman, but, and there is a BUT.

Who was it that hyped his transfer, as us Liverpool fans were the first to agree that we paid too much. The above retort you quoted is balls. None of us claim he is Messi like.
Carrol serves a purpose, unlike Bendtner, he has qualities specific to his usage and provides a substantial problem for teams, due to his physicality alone.

Now name me one genuine quality of Bendtner that sets him above Carrol. Carrol has the arial and physical threat where as Bendybus has...? Mediocre technique?

Bubbles - Soon to be Don_chelsea (U7929)
posted 6 minutes ago

Anyway I'm off now Scousers, I'll be back to humiliate you all again this evening
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You only humiliate yourself

Now name me one genuine quality of Bendtner that sets him above Carrol. Carrol has the arial and physical threat where as Bendybus has...? Mediocre technique?

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Bendtner didn't cost £35 million

Did you read what I wrote plastic? Or only what you wanted?

Lets leave 50million Torres out of this, no?
Rich of you Chavs to talk about player fees.

So what you're saying is that you paid £35 million for a slightly better version of Bendtner

Bendtner is a far better dribbler: a quality that makes him useful on the flanks.
Bendtner has better technique and guile: yes, he's not Bergkamp but he is better than Carroll.
Bendtner has greater pace, mobility and versatility.
The only difference is Bendtner didn't come with an insane price tag.

And for your info, Bendtner is handy in the air. We just don't play to that strength in his game.

Footballing qualities plastic, not financial.

Nice attempt at deflection though

Now name me one genuine quality of Bendtner that sets him above Carrol. Carrol has the arial and physical threat where as Bendybus has...? Mediocre technique?
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if carroll can do this against even some team like accrington stanley, i'll give you 35 million yeah?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irzT5950gxo

comment by mthierry (U7482)

posted 3 minutes ago

Bendtner is a far better dribbler:
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Dribble doesn't make a player.
Xavi isn't the greatest dribble but you can't really say he isn't better than Arshavin, can you???

Bendtner has been deemd surplus to requirements at Arsenal. By contrast Pool's attack foir the next few seasons is going to be led by Andy Carroll

How Pool fans can laugh at Arsenal or Chelsea is beyond me

K

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Thierry if you read my earlier post you see I and many fellow reds agree 35 million is a joke. Yet those who decide the sums base it on more than just football, it is business after all.

Better dribbling does not make Bendtner stand out, it is average at best.

The qualities you listed define bedtner as average, where as Carrol is unique in his physical strength and on field presence. Not many players have had that,
Shearer, big Jan Koller and possibly Kennit Andersson, from memory.

Played to there strengths, Carrols qualities far out-weigh Bendtners.

To add, Honest Liverpool above is correct Bendtner has more variety, yet it doesn't make him any different from the norm.

Also I listed players, to keep the Chavs happy, Drogba would qualify as unique in physical strengh and power. Yet technically not as good as most other great strikers.
Yet he has been devasting, used to his qualities.

Carrol could be classed as similar to Drogba.

"Carrol could be classed as similar to Drogba."
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Carrol could be classed as similar to Drogba.

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Hardly when Drogba has proven his ability at the top level for years and Carroll has had one half decent season in the PL.

maybe wait till carroll actually does something before classing him as similar to drogba...

Gervinho, RVP and Bemdtner are all better than Carroll. I would class Carroll similar to Chamakh who I think is useless, yet Chamakh still has better technical ability so no Carrol wouldn't get in the Arsenal team.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I cant breathe, who compared carroll to drogba?

Comparative styles you clowns, not abillity.

Please feel free to miss-represent what I'm saying a little more.

Carrol in time may match Drogba, but lets not forgett Drogba was 27 odd before he was 'quality'. Mind you he was/is a cheat.