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And what makes you think that is not the aim of Arsenal, Spurs, Everton and Liverpool

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When did I say it wasn't

Wrong Jan....and I called it the tinpot cup when we were holders and when we at the final again a a couple years back, so I'm not disrespecting you winning it. Its one of only 4 trophies.

I do not see top 4 as a trophy. In the big scheme of things top 4 means you are best of the rest. United are an unstoppable mega power and City & Chelsea have bought their way in and it is almost impossible to compete with them financially.

4th is in many respects as good as one can hope to be from Spurs point of view (at least in the short term) . Breaking the top 3 almost requires one of them to implode like Chelsea did last season - only to go out and spend another £80m this summer which is the perfect example of why it is so hard to achieve anything better than 4th. 4th is a stepping stone, a means to an end.

4th , normally, gets you into the biggest cup competition going and opens up funding to close the gap with the mega rich. Without it its impossible to compete. That is why it is so desirable, that is why it is so competitive to achieve it and in the face of such competition, coming out on top should be considered as success of some sort.

If LFC ended 4th you'd call it a successful season...4th is a means to an end.

If Spurs took 8th place and the C1C, would you want to swap places?

(and don't say "i want trophies and top 4" as if such aspirations are unique to LFC...we all want that, it goes without saying)

CL spot > CC

Unless you're Arsenal. They're desperate for any pot other than the Emirates Cup at this point.

We have never won the league cup. But I would take 4th over that any day.

Ask Leicester.....Birmingham etc.

Good lord, still going strong eh

So the op came out and tried to put Liverpool down only to be torn about by Liverpool fans and most neutrals.

Spurs lads are backed in a corner and then start using the 'i haven't got a comeback so i'll say bite' technique

Very predictable.

Speaking of predictions, i predict Spurs to bounce up and down and win jack sheet for the next 100 years too

We have never won the league cup. But I would take 4th over that any day.
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If you do manage 4th again then make sure you do what you did last time and bring out a dvd called 'champions league we're havin a laugh'

You certainly were

A team with Marks Bent finished 4th.

Above a well funded Liverpool side Metro

We were bluffing because we knew we were going to win the European cup

This is still the article where AVB's Jacket tried to answer an argument right?

And the excuse for the other times you missed out since

Why er... You ever felt the weight of a european cup

Its hard when you've got one for keeps

Oh...so its giving others a chance.

Not that you are just not good enough.

Awww and you thought you were improving

Fell;

Why do you always put a wink at the end of your posts? It would imply a hidden meaning and there isn't any. It only serves to make you look weird. Is that the reason?

Everton are another club that spend more than LFC to win a trophy.

I've had my picture taken with our European Cup

"Everton are another club that spend more than LFC to win a trophy. "

Lies!!!!

They spend money to try and win nothing. And they have a 100% success rate.

Only funny cos it's true.

EFC - successful at being unsuccessful

Lee Carsley

Zinadine Kilbane

You think it has hidden meaning Robbing...but that is because you are a gimp !

It has no meaning....or does it

Speaking of ex Everton players. I saw Barry Horne buying a pair of reading glasses the other day. It made me feel old

I wish he wore them when playing!

He has an excuse now

Seeing your music taste I would say you are near to hitting 40 KATD.