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comment by wizered (U1104)

posted on 26/7/11

Tell Sven to do one,Waghorn carries more injury problems than Nicky..

Nicky could keep us up with his goals and it looks as though ( I sincerely hope not) we have got a tough season ahead,do all we can to keep him...

Better survival than relegation...

posted on 26/7/11

Wizered, you must be the first bc fan I've heard talking about relegation. Most I've come across think you're going up, and other think just missing out on the playoffs. I'm not sure that your team is that strong, but its certainly stronger than a relegation battle mate! Mid-table comfortably, and who knows, perhaps a play-off push.

As for Maynard, I think you'd be getting a very good price at 4m, personally. Of course, the issue is whether your manager thinks he could get the same goals out of a replacement. I fear the answer to this maybe no, which is why Sven is so hell bent on getting him too. I'd rather we went for someone like ebanks-blake or billy sharp myself..

posted on 26/7/11

See the considerable thread "Waghorn, Maynard, Bristol", under which this very subject has been debated all day today.

comment by dezzie (U7131)

posted on 26/7/11

Waghorn is a good player, and he doesnt carry more injury problems than nicky at all. He had a relatively short term injury. He's 4 years younger than maynard, and as a leicester fan i would rather keep him and use that £4m somewhere else. Not worth it.

posted on 26/7/11

http://ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/17481 view my thread for full conversation on the matter.

posted on 26/7/11

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posted on 26/7/11

Must keep Waggy he is one for the future and as a club we have no need to sell. This Maynard situation has gone on far too long , Bristol in my opinion are just being greedy.

posted on 26/7/11

I deleted my own comment - I had a rush of humour - sorry. I said keep it sensible and I broke my own wishes.

posted on 26/7/11

Waghorn no thanks

posted on 26/7/11

Must keep Waggy he is one for the future and as a club we have no need to sell. This Maynard situation has gone on far too long , Bristol in my opinion are just being greedy.

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greedy because we dont want to sell the best striker at our club/in the league for a low value as we have a sell on clause ...... so if it was the other way round you would accept less for say king just because a club wanted to sign him .. we have never really been a selling club especially to a club in the same league that statement that we are being greedy is slightly odd!!

posted on 26/7/11

Greedy?? How can we be greedy when we dont want to sell, were not holding out for a 6 mill offer we just dont want to sell him for the reason you want him

posted on 26/7/11

I actually think Maynard is worth the money if the market is now valuing Shane Long at over £8m - also ludicrous.

But I also think that his belief that he must go to the Premiership is equally ill-founded. If you could get £4m plus a player for him (worth every bit of £2 to £2.5m in today's terms) that looks like a good deal to me.

Waghorn is not injury prone and Maynard has had a knee injury. One is a young lad on a long-tem contract - the other has less than a year to run.

I can understand why BCFC fans don't what to part with him and LCFC fans felt the same about Matt Fryatt (not a dissimiliar player in terms of ability) but life goes on.

As has been pointed out in may posts before - value now circa £5m; At the end of August £3.5 to £4m; £2.5 to £3m in January and diddly-squat in May.

Your directors must be thinking this one through very seriously.

comment by olocky (U2371)

posted on 26/7/11

bristol city dont want to sell him, as the moment Maynard has not come out and said he wants to leave, He even was speaking at yeovil while signing autographs while warming up, on sat and i heard his words directly, few small details to sort out thats all, so hopefully he true to his words, we'll all have to wait and see

posted on 26/7/11

Overpriced for us at that price I think, but by the same token I can understand Bristol not wanting to sell for less. To find a player who can score 20+ goals is what every club is looking for and although I don't know a lot about the player lots of people seem to think he can do that so Bristol would struggle to replace him so want as much cash as possible.
Waggy is a good player in my opinion and I don't want to see him go, I think he could develop into a right handful for defends and could be near the 20 goal mark if he was playing regularly and high in confidence ( which is why we might not see the best of him prehaps?)
Have to say though it has all gone on for long enough now so Maynard needs to decide and put an end to it all. Play out his contract for Bristol and move to a Prem club for free next summer ( prehaps?), sign for us and get on board and help get us up, or (and this is a rare commodity in footie today, tie himself to Bristol and let the board decide at what price they would sell if he does go on the rampage this year!
If I was Sven I think I would say enough is enough, While we probably do need a 'proven' striker to complete our squad I don't think we should spend silly money for a player who has never done it at the top level as it is still a gamble. We have some good players with potential to do that Schlupp springs to mind although he has a long way to go but with our squad and prehaps a loan from the Prem i think we will do alright and can reassess in Jan, or maybe even next summer when we are hopefully shopping for the Prem

comment by wizered (U1104)

posted on 26/7/11

No disrespect to the guy because I'd never even heard of him until this latest bout of negotiation but note the words..

Rated at £1.5m and unproven but Nicky is a solid performer and they value him at £3m to £4m and a proven goalscorer..

Keep Waggy and we'll keep Nicky,you're havin' a larf as we say down West......

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 26/7/11

I haven't seen anyone yet confirm that the bid + Waghorn is anything other than paper talk. In fact, I'm beginning to think that there hasn't really been much development in terms of this pursuit for some time and it's only Mr. Maynard's reluctance to put pen to paper at BCFC that is keeping this thing going.

If, at the very start of this transfer window, it was suggested that we were bidding £2m + Waggy for a player not from the Premier League I reckon that there would be many raised eyebrows on this board. Now we're talking about £4.5m and Waghorn - silly season really is upon us. Waggy was a player rated at £2m - £3m when we bought him.

I don't blame Sven for his attempt to get the player, but this has gone on too long. We made the approach and BCFC are determined to keep him - fair enough you win some and lose some.

I actually believe that Maynard would not be as important to us and he will Brizzle anyway. For me a 20 goal striker is a nice to have and the final piece of our jigsaw. We scored goals quite easily last season without one. It would be nice to have one but, with the investment we have made in the team, I'm not sure that a better value target wouldn't thrive within our current set up (with the emphasis on a passing game) anyway.

posted on 26/7/11

Some very sensible views on here. Thanks guys.

LCFC seem to be a club with money to burn, and we need NMs goals more than money right now, so I can't see this going anywhere.

More likely Florest come in from behind and take him...

comment by wizered (U1104)

posted on 26/7/11

Good thoughts,I can assure you that having had the luck to watch Nicky play during the last 3 years,the man scores goals in any situation,Hoof,Whoosh,Crosses,15 man passes or an emphasis on the passing game.

He is a 20 goal striker (subject to injury brought on by thuggery,foregive my bias) and is dynamite from any angle,I won't bore you with all of his other abilities but make no mistake,he is electric and your valuation is low..

posted on 27/7/11

Well Wize we disagree on some things but I totally agree with you on this one.
It looks like Sven has been counting the loose change and really scraping the barrel on this one. I really expected something a little more tempting on their final offer.
Waghorn, as has been said I believe, would be a bit part player for us at best and would probably be behind Clarkson as well as Stead and Pitman. Even without Maynard we wouldn't need him.

Maynards goals make him worth a lot more in todays market IF we wanted to sell him which we don't.

Imagine the scenario start of the season selling our main man to a rival club. That would be sending a signal from our new board that we do not intend to compete. That could provoke a response from our fans that would soon cost the club a lot more than £4million in lost revenue and really drop Keith Millen in the brown stuff.

In recent days Nicky seems to be indicating to people that he has spoken to that a new deal is almost agreed so if this offer is made I would expect that the only thing that could delay our Chairman from immediately turning it down would be that he would struggle to operate the fax machine due to uncontrollable laughter.

comment by fatfox (U4031)

posted on 27/7/11

Waghorn is a good striker within a system that suits his qualities. Nigel Pearson's rather direct style of play saw Waggy score 12 in 27 league starts when on loan to us, which is behind Maynard's strike rate of 20 from 40 the same season, but not sufficiently so to deserve some of the scathing comments I've read.

I'm not trying to 'sell' him to BCFC fans, just shine some light for the benefit of the authors of these 'never heard of him' comments. I'd rather we kept him, showed some faith and gave him a chance this season, but unfortunately his face just doesn't seem to fit under the Eriksson regime.

posted on 27/7/11

I reckon we could get £5m and Waghorn out of them.

They're acting like spoilt kids who cant get their own way since they have had a bit of money to spend, the more we say no, the more they stamp their little feet.

posted on 27/7/11

And the more we offer the more you "stamp your little feet".

posted on 27/7/11

I reckon this thread is well past its sell-by date.

Personally I'm sick of the sound of Maynard's name. Let's wait for something to HAPPEN, then start again?

posted on 27/7/11

Bert from FT has confirmed that this bid has gone in for Maynard.

posted on 27/7/11

It's a big fat no from me.....

We must keep our best players and IMO Maynard is one of them.
Would not sell for less than 7.5m and would have to be a Premiership side.

Also, why if I was Maynard (apart from the money) would want to sign for Leicester, no gurantees that they would go up....I would want premiership all day.

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