is this a landmark moment, the FA show common sense
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http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2013/January/Kompany-appeal-successful
Just waiting for the Arsenal backlash!!
Looking forward to hearing the reasons, and I think Mike Dean must have had an involvement in this.
I'm pleased that they have made this move - whilst I believe technically he can justify his decision, I think it's certainly the right call.
A healthy day for the rules of football.
already happened boltonblue
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/181513
Good decision.
Just watch - Kompany will pick up an injury in the game against Fulham now!
To be honest they should state that from Deans view that it looked like 2 feet but from the side it wasn't, so that was why is was rescinded. Likewise Mark Halseys view of the Soton penalty looked like contact but from the side there clearly wasn't.
United fan here. I dont think the Kompany red card was warranted.
Kompany isnt a dirty player and from the replays you can see he tried not to use both feet, even from his frustration at the red card showed he knew what was coming.
If you take that out of a player's game then whats the point anymore?
Kompany is a tough tackler and should be able to do so, within reason of course
Vince! Where have you been? You and your obscene language is greatly missed over on BML.
To be fair I was saying on Sunday that it was correct, but now after seeing again on slow motion GIF it was clearly not two footed challenge.
He does make them though and needs to cut it out of his game. But this overturn is the correct decision.
Arsenal fan. No problem with it being rescinded. Thought they would stick by the decision as it was not a completely outrageous call. City had nothing to lose as it was not a frivolous appeal even if they lost and so were not risking a further ban.
I would also say Koscielny's red card was harsh.
If it was late in the game then yes, but in the first 10 mins the tempo is high, players havent settled into the game, they can make rash decisions.
Both red cards could have been avoided for a better spectacle.
As a neutral I lost interest once Kos was sent off.
You can't refrain from issuing a card because it ruins the entertainment factor - that's just not practical or sensible.
Not just for the entertainment factor but the human element.
Players are pumped up and the adrenaline is high.
Before that there was end to end football being played, later on when players have settled then you can understand a red being brandished.
I don't think you should differentiate between a foul in the 1st or last minute. I can see early on you can mistime a tackle in the same way a batsman can mistime a few shots before he is in, but Kos's grab was not that sort of mistimed tackle.
At last the FA get something right!!!
Where does it end? Should we not apply the rules at an Under 11's game because sending a kid off might make him cry?
Rules are rules - if I was a Man City fan and the red card hadn't been issued so that people watching on Sky weren't bored, I'd be livid.
Rules are rules - if I was a Man City fan and the red card hadn't been issued so that people watching on Sky weren't bored, I'd be livid.
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Not for entertainment but a little discretion or common sense.
Players make mistakes and should be given a warning atleast, hence the yellow card.
If something is outrageously dangerous then yes a red should be given at any point.
But I dont think Kos deserved a red so early.
comment by Winston (U16525)
You can't refrain from issuing a card because it ruins the entertainment factor - that's just not practical or sensible.
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Agreed. Some chump called in to 5-Live after the game and argued that refs should consider that fans pay a lot of money to see games and therefore should make decisions accordingly (ie. don't give red cards if they think that it might detract from the entertainment value, certainly not early on in the game).
This, by the way, was his second point; the first being that he felt money was dictating football too much...
HNIC - Shogun Shinji (U5574)
You're entitled to your view, but it's not part of the rules and I think most people would be glad about that.
HNIC - Shogun Shinji (U5574)
You're entitled to your view, but it's not part of the rules and I think most people would be glad about that.
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From a rules perspective yes.
But if it happened to us I would also be upset if we didnt get the decision so I guess its easy being a neutral and say he shouldnt have been sent off.
Kompany was sent off early in the FA Cup last year against you, bet you wasn't complaining then, if it deserves a red card then I'm afraid it has to happen or else players will try and get away with it if they think they will!!
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posted on 15/1/13
is this a landmark moment, the FA show common sense
posted on 15/1/13
The world is going to end.
posted on 15/1/13
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 15/1/13
It will for some now
posted on 15/1/13
http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Team-news/2013/January/Kompany-appeal-successful
posted on 15/1/13
Just waiting for the Arsenal backlash!!
posted on 15/1/13
Looking forward to hearing the reasons, and I think Mike Dean must have had an involvement in this.
I'm pleased that they have made this move - whilst I believe technically he can justify his decision, I think it's certainly the right call.
A healthy day for the rules of football.
posted on 15/1/13
already happened boltonblue
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/181513
posted on 15/1/13
Good decision.
Just watch - Kompany will pick up an injury in the game against Fulham now!
posted on 15/1/13
To be honest they should state that from Deans view that it looked like 2 feet but from the side it wasn't, so that was why is was rescinded. Likewise Mark Halseys view of the Soton penalty looked like contact but from the side there clearly wasn't.
posted on 15/1/13
United fan here. I dont think the Kompany red card was warranted.
Kompany isnt a dirty player and from the replays you can see he tried not to use both feet, even from his frustration at the red card showed he knew what was coming.
If you take that out of a player's game then whats the point anymore?
Kompany is a tough tackler and should be able to do so, within reason of course
posted on 15/1/13
Vince! Where have you been? You and your obscene language is greatly missed over on BML.
posted on 15/1/13
To be fair I was saying on Sunday that it was correct, but now after seeing again on slow motion GIF it was clearly not two footed challenge.
He does make them though and needs to cut it out of his game. But this overturn is the correct decision.
posted on 15/1/13
Arsenal fan. No problem with it being rescinded. Thought they would stick by the decision as it was not a completely outrageous call. City had nothing to lose as it was not a frivolous appeal even if they lost and so were not risking a further ban.
posted on 15/1/13
I would also say Koscielny's red card was harsh.
If it was late in the game then yes, but in the first 10 mins the tempo is high, players havent settled into the game, they can make rash decisions.
Both red cards could have been avoided for a better spectacle.
As a neutral I lost interest once Kos was sent off.
posted on 15/1/13
You can't refrain from issuing a card because it ruins the entertainment factor - that's just not practical or sensible.
posted on 15/1/13
Not just for the entertainment factor but the human element.
Players are pumped up and the adrenaline is high.
Before that there was end to end football being played, later on when players have settled then you can understand a red being brandished.
posted on 15/1/13
I don't think you should differentiate between a foul in the 1st or last minute. I can see early on you can mistime a tackle in the same way a batsman can mistime a few shots before he is in, but Kos's grab was not that sort of mistimed tackle.
posted on 15/1/13
At last the FA get something right!!!
posted on 15/1/13
Where does it end? Should we not apply the rules at an Under 11's game because sending a kid off might make him cry?
Rules are rules - if I was a Man City fan and the red card hadn't been issued so that people watching on Sky weren't bored, I'd be livid.
posted on 15/1/13
Rules are rules - if I was a Man City fan and the red card hadn't been issued so that people watching on Sky weren't bored, I'd be livid.
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Not for entertainment but a little discretion or common sense.
Players make mistakes and should be given a warning atleast, hence the yellow card.
If something is outrageously dangerous then yes a red should be given at any point.
But I dont think Kos deserved a red so early.
posted on 15/1/13
comment by Winston (U16525)
You can't refrain from issuing a card because it ruins the entertainment factor - that's just not practical or sensible.
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Agreed. Some chump called in to 5-Live after the game and argued that refs should consider that fans pay a lot of money to see games and therefore should make decisions accordingly (ie. don't give red cards if they think that it might detract from the entertainment value, certainly not early on in the game).
This, by the way, was his second point; the first being that he felt money was dictating football too much...
posted on 15/1/13
HNIC - Shogun Shinji (U5574)
You're entitled to your view, but it's not part of the rules and I think most people would be glad about that.
posted on 15/1/13
HNIC - Shogun Shinji (U5574)
You're entitled to your view, but it's not part of the rules and I think most people would be glad about that.
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From a rules perspective yes.
But if it happened to us I would also be upset if we didnt get the decision so I guess its easy being a neutral and say he shouldnt have been sent off.
posted on 15/1/13
Kompany was sent off early in the FA Cup last year against you, bet you wasn't complaining then, if it deserves a red card then I'm afraid it has to happen or else players will try and get away with it if they think they will!!
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