just saw this on one of the other teams page - http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B000KKNQBK/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

how you make those so you can just click the link?

I think this sums up why we lost Stale. At least Doyle is honest enough to admit this and all credit to him for pointing it out.

“With Stale it was very similar, he tried to get us playing and maybe we didn’t have the players or we didn’t have the time and patience to get into that mode."

We didn't 'lose' Stale, wolfie. He was rightly sacked for poor results and by common consent; the worst football seen for a very long time.

Did you SEE the games then Cyp, or are you basing it on what you read on here?

What ever happened to the club's policy of not being a hire and fire club?

Morgan panicked, that's clear for all to see and did you not read what Doyle had to say about Stale?

"Did you SEE the games then Cyp, or are you basing it on what you read on here?"
Did you SEE the games then Sunny, or are you basing it on what you read on here?

"What ever happened to the club's policy of not being a hire and fire club?"

Why are you encouraging them to be hire & fire again?

“Morgan panicked, that's clear for all to see and did you not read what Doyle had to say about Stale?”
Why do you suddenly have so much time for Doyle’s opinions? If he came out and said MM was great would you be encouraging us to take note of what he’s saying? When Doyle backed TC last season did you hold him up as someone we should listen to?

Three questions each returned away with consummate ease.

We are a hire and fire and panic ridden club and have been for twelve months I'm afraid

Tatter, Is your mission in life solely to come on here on a daily basis, wait for what I write, then nit-pick continually?

It was the clubs policy not to hire and fire. Not mine. If a manager isn't up to the job, then I for one will question the appointment.

I'm not Doyle's biggest fan, but I'm highlighting something he's ACTUALLY said and not, as you have stated, something with an "if" attached. What was Doyle supposed to say about TC anyway? He's useless.

I saw a few games under Stale actually. How many did you see?

3 answers returned with consummate ease.

comment by wolfieintheSunshineState (U16306)
posted 29 minutes ago
Did you SEE the games then Cyp, or are you basing it on what you read on here?

Nope, I saw quite a number of Stale's games and base my opinions on what I see and read. And you?

The firing decisions in the last 12 months have all been fair enough - the hiring decisions is what's caused the problems.

Witss, I think Cyp has seen all of the games.

Took me 5 mins to read that article and Cyp had already replied.

Ive always liked Doyles attitude its just a pity it never transferred on to the pitch.

“Tatter, Is your mission in life solely to come on here on a daily basis, wait for what I write, then nit-pick continually?”

No

“It was the clubs policy not to hire and fire. Not mine. If a manager isn't up to the job, then I for one will question the appointment.”

And yet you stated you wouldn’t question Stale for three years. Why?

“I'm not Doyle's biggest fan, but I'm highlighting something he's ACTUALLY said and not, as you have stated, something with an "if" attached. What was Doyle supposed to say about TC anyway? He's useless.”

He said TC was great. Now he’s said Stale was great. He was wrong both times. When he described TC as great you said he was an idiot. When he says Stale was great you hold him up as an insightful genius. Which is he?

“I saw a few games under Stale actually. How many did you see?”

A lot more than you.



So today you’ve been a leopard then a pot now you’re a baby and I’ve just taken your candy

I probably saw all the matches you did Cyp. The point I'm trying to make (poorly obviously) is that you state that SS was sacked for poor results.

What are the results under DS? I really don't mind how we win, as long as we win. It would be nice however to have decent football matching the wins tho'.

I think the point made by Doyle is relevant. It was the players not willing to give SS the time or effort. He tried to get us playing a different style, but it would appear the players were 100% to blame for the poor performances.

I have never stated that I wouldn't ever question the appointment of SS. I said that I would give him UP to 3 years. The same amount of time someone else was given. I also said that if we were relegated under SS, then the decision as to whether to keep him or not would be made by the 2 M's.

Doyle never said either TC was great or SS was. Here's what he said:-

“I really liked Stale, I did, it was tough, he took over and I compared it to Brendan Rodgers taking over from Steve Coppell at Reading."

You really do have a habit of grossly exaggerating comments and not just mine.

Time to go as I can't be bothered arguing with you all day. Got some paint I want to watch dry.

"A lot more than you"

Easy to say sitting behind a computer screen and only your word for it.

Ta ta for now tatter.

“He tried to get us playing a different style, but it would appear the players were 100% to blame for the poor performances.”

Sunny when the same excuse was trotted out time and again for Stale i.e. that he didn’t have the players capable of succeeding in his style what did I say?
I said it was his job to get the best possible results with the players available to him and that if he was too rigid in his approach he’d pay with his job.
What happened?
I’m not convinced he’d have turned it around however much time he’d had or that his style would ever have worked but to put his principals on how the game should be played ahead of getting results was stupid and it cost him his job just like I said it would.

Was SS taking us to a Paradise of Barca - style pure passing football ??

Didn't look like it to me - high line, no width.

I don’t know what he was trying to do Wolfgang but he was making a hash of it.

Whatever he was trying to do, it was keeping us nicely clear of relegation.
Pleased to hear a player touch on what many suspected to.

“Whatever he was trying to do, it was keeping us nicely clear of relegation.”
That wasn’t really the aim for the season though was it? 18th after a £10m spending spree in Div2 is an unacceptable underachievement and he therefore paid with job.

It wasn't, but it was a long way from a disaster.
Especially when you consider all the injury problems that investment entailed.
Boukhari, the most expensive is still sidelined.
Then of course O'hara was missing too.

It was a transitional season with an outside chance of a play off.