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He's a buffoon, he's a racist and he is offensive.
Personally I believe he reaps what he sows, it his his choice how he comments. Having been one of the people subject of his particularly offensive comments I have no time for him and certainly do not miss him.
What did he actually get banned for though? Someone go running to admin? I've given Clive some serious stick over the last few months and nothing has happened to me.
He lost a bet to me then tried to weadle out of it by changing the goal posts !Still he is not ofensive just beligerent but I,m big enough to handle him
Lost 3 bets to me not paid up once.
He's got some of the most bizare views on footba have ever seen like when said becchio would never score 15 championship goals ever again and should sell him wail can still get a fee in the summe(then scored 19 before new year), or him saying Kevin Phillips is poor player last season before it started (then scored 15+ on a freebe, got more but not go on.
Got more wrong of late tho, shame used to be a good poster back on old days.
Calls me stupid yet This must be his 3 or 4th ban on here.
A complete dimwit with the social skills of a feral 5 year old, but I did kind of get to like him after a while. On the positive side he did contribute a lot, like BP contributed oil into the Gulf of Mexico.
Haha it's like the fall of Saddam lol
Mike
The word Wakefield only has one L.
Eric I've never seen LIW be racist?
leeds61
Bully for you.
I would like to have seen your response to the comments he made about me, had they been about you. Somehow I do not think you would have accepted them...!
I might be wrong, but I doubt it.
In my minds eye, I imagine Originle Koppite, LIW and Revies Super Leeds crammed into a tiny boat in the middle of the Atlantic all, swearing at each other constantly..
Frank, I've not seen that either.
I confronted LIW recently on article about Turkish players. He is most definitely racist and seemed to back it up further after I asked him if it was a knee jerk comment.
http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/185056/2
Davidoff, I'd not seen that thread.
I can understand not wanting a connection with Galatasaray, but to not want turks per se is a bit too far.
I've met LIW a number of times, he's never struck me as racist, never made racist comments that I've been aware of, but I know he can come across quite strong on here and sometimes things can be very much open to intepretation (turkish delight etc).
Not trying to defend, just trying to give some insight into someone whom I've met personally and consider a friend.
I wouldn't call it racism, just a blinkered view, many Leeds fans are still tender when it comes to Turkey, those fan's were killed in Turkey, doesn't really matter which team they were associated with does it?
If we were to get a Turk playing for us i wouldn't have a problem, but i could see why there would be animosity amongst our fans if they were to come from G'tasaray.
I can see why he holds those views but to blanket dislike a whole people because of the actions of a few is absurd and racist.
On the thread I asked if it was knee jerk and he pretty much said no. I hope that if he came across a Turkish person in every day working life he wouldn't dislike them out of principle, and give them a chance to show that not everyone from his country is like those vile people who took those two innocent fans lives.
If he were racist then he would have binned his season ticket when we signed a black player, it's not racism, you can't just throw that word around. I've been a poster on ja606 and the old bbc 606 for years and never read anything from LIW to suggest he is racist, he is prejudice against Turks because of what happened, maybe it's wrong to be like that, but understandable. I hope he didn't get banned because of that thread.
Think you need to review your understanding of the word racism mate. Just because it isn't a black person in question doesn't mean it's not racial discrimination.
If an employer were to specify that he doesn't want English people to work for his company then said company would easily lose a court case for racial discrimination. This is no different.
I too hope he wasn't banned off the back of this thread, and wouldn't be bothered in sharing a discussion with him in the future.
LIW is a regular at home and away games, knows his football and is not afraid to give an opinion. JA606 is a poorer place without his input, even if he does overstep the mark some times.
Is one person I would love to have a Pint with sometime.
If necessary put him in the Sin bin but don’t get rid
You do realise that there are more than just white people and black people right?
Saying you can't be racist cause you ain't racist to blacks is just plain wrong.
and he says on that thread he would bin his season ticket if we signed a Turkish player so by your logic of binning tickets would be racist then if he has clearly said he would bin his ticket if we signed someone of a certain race then he is a racist is he not?
oh and I have no problem with him. However knowing how he is it was only a matter of time.
Would like to know if this is another sin bin or has he been permabanned this time.
Racism is based on dislike, disgust, or hate strictly based on a persons race, color, or religion.
I think you need to understand the difference between prejudice and racism before labeling people.
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posted on 26/2/13
Who did he call a perv?
posted on 26/2/13
He's a buffoon, he's a racist and he is offensive.
Personally I believe he reaps what he sows, it his his choice how he comments. Having been one of the people subject of his particularly offensive comments I have no time for him and certainly do not miss him.
posted on 26/2/13
What did he actually get banned for though? Someone go running to admin? I've given Clive some serious stick over the last few months and nothing has happened to me.
posted on 26/2/13
He lost a bet to me then tried to weadle out of it by changing the goal posts !Still he is not ofensive just beligerent but I,m big enough to handle him
posted on 26/2/13
Lost 3 bets to me not paid up once.
He's got some of the most bizare views on footba have ever seen like when said becchio would never score 15 championship goals ever again and should sell him wail can still get a fee in the summe(then scored 19 before new year), or him saying Kevin Phillips is poor player last season before it started (then scored 15+ on a freebe, got more but not go on.
Got more wrong of late tho, shame used to be a good poster back on old days.
Calls me stupid yet This must be his 3 or 4th ban on here.
posted on 26/2/13
A complete dimwit with the social skills of a feral 5 year old, but I did kind of get to like him after a while. On the positive side he did contribute a lot, like BP contributed oil into the Gulf of Mexico.
posted on 26/2/13
Haha it's like the fall of Saddam lol
posted on 26/2/13
Mike
The word Wakefield only has one L.
Eric I've never seen LIW be racist?
posted on 26/2/13
Meme
posted on 26/2/13
Frank...
I have.
posted on 26/2/13
leeds61
Bully for you.
I would like to have seen your response to the comments he made about me, had they been about you. Somehow I do not think you would have accepted them...!
I might be wrong, but I doubt it.
posted on 26/2/13
In my minds eye, I imagine Originle Koppite, LIW and Revies Super Leeds crammed into a tiny boat in the middle of the Atlantic all, swearing at each other constantly..
posted on 26/2/13
Frank, I've not seen that either.
posted on 26/2/13
I confronted LIW recently on article about Turkish players. He is most definitely racist and seemed to back it up further after I asked him if it was a knee jerk comment.
posted on 26/2/13
http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/185056/2
posted on 26/2/13
Davidoff, I'd not seen that thread.
I can understand not wanting a connection with Galatasaray, but to not want turks per se is a bit too far.
I've met LIW a number of times, he's never struck me as racist, never made racist comments that I've been aware of, but I know he can come across quite strong on here and sometimes things can be very much open to intepretation (turkish delight etc).
Not trying to defend, just trying to give some insight into someone whom I've met personally and consider a friend.
posted on 26/2/13
I wouldn't call it racism, just a blinkered view, many Leeds fans are still tender when it comes to Turkey, those fan's were killed in Turkey, doesn't really matter which team they were associated with does it?
If we were to get a Turk playing for us i wouldn't have a problem, but i could see why there would be animosity amongst our fans if they were to come from G'tasaray.
posted on 26/2/13
I can see why he holds those views but to blanket dislike a whole people because of the actions of a few is absurd and racist.
On the thread I asked if it was knee jerk and he pretty much said no. I hope that if he came across a Turkish person in every day working life he wouldn't dislike them out of principle, and give them a chance to show that not everyone from his country is like those vile people who took those two innocent fans lives.
posted on 26/2/13
If he were racist then he would have binned his season ticket when we signed a black player, it's not racism, you can't just throw that word around. I've been a poster on ja606 and the old bbc 606 for years and never read anything from LIW to suggest he is racist, he is prejudice against Turks because of what happened, maybe it's wrong to be like that, but understandable. I hope he didn't get banned because of that thread.
posted on 26/2/13
Think you need to review your understanding of the word racism mate. Just because it isn't a black person in question doesn't mean it's not racial discrimination.
If an employer were to specify that he doesn't want English people to work for his company then said company would easily lose a court case for racial discrimination. This is no different.
I too hope he wasn't banned off the back of this thread, and wouldn't be bothered in sharing a discussion with him in the future.
posted on 26/2/13
LIW is a regular at home and away games, knows his football and is not afraid to give an opinion. JA606 is a poorer place without his input, even if he does overstep the mark some times.
Is one person I would love to have a Pint with sometime.
If necessary put him in the Sin bin but don’t get rid
posted on 26/2/13
You do realise that there are more than just white people and black people right?
Saying you can't be racist cause you ain't racist to blacks is just plain wrong.
and he says on that thread he would bin his season ticket if we signed a Turkish player so by your logic of binning tickets would be racist then if he has clearly said he would bin his ticket if we signed someone of a certain race then he is a racist is he not?
posted on 26/2/13
oh and I have no problem with him. However knowing how he is it was only a matter of time.
Would like to know if this is another sin bin or has he been permabanned this time.
posted on 26/2/13
Racism is based on dislike, disgust, or hate strictly based on a persons race, color, or religion.
I think you need to understand the difference between prejudice and racism before labeling people.
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