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To be fair if it's a red it's a red, but that wasn't

He've???

English isn't your first language I guess?

other than that, I completely agree

This isn't the first time it's happened, it happened to other teams, rather just move on. And trust me, it won't be the last time it happens too

When Nani is given the red card, they focus on that United behaved shameful, like it wasn't our right to act like that. And threaten to fee players and staff.

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Why didn't Fergie actually do his job and get your team organised after going down to ten men? He spent the first few minutes waving to the crowd and on the touch line moaning. He didn't shuffle the pack around to go 4-4-1, he didn’t talk to his captain or one of the senior players on the pitch to get some tactical instructions across to the team.

You could have held on and went through if you had actually organised yourselves straight after the sending off, the 2 goals came within 13 mins of the red card, a 13 mins Fergie spent moaning and focusing on trying to get the crowd up.

Bad piece of management on Fergie's part

While a whole footballing nation is gutted by the decision

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Sorry, what? lol


"they focus on that United behaved shameful, like it wasn't our right to act like that" - Your players/manager have no right to behave the way they did. They are paid professionals and that is how they should act, professionally. If they don't like UEFA, don't participate in their competitions.

Stop being cry babys

"While a whole footballing nation is gutted by the decision, UEFA actually does nothing about it. "

While a whole footballing nation is gutted by the decision, UEFA actually does nothing about it.

Fact is, history wise and if this is gonna continue with bad referee's in CL it's not much a truthworthy cup is it? It's way to based on referee and luck. So that meaning it shouldn't be the "Champions of Europe" but rather "Platini's pillow".

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The rest is somewhat tolerable as a read. The last 2 paragraphs sum up the exact reason why most clubs and their fans hate us though.

I don't think a "whole nation is gutted;" for a lot of rival fans and ABU's, watching us lose was their cup final.

And one more thing. Recently I've heard a lot of scousers say it was a clear red card because Nani's foot was high. But I seem to remember Suarez booting Scott Parker in the chest and according to those same scousers, that wasn't even worthy of a booking. Strange that!

Baz, we're all football fans, by definition we're all hypocrites

So you all ignore Fergie's bad management at a key point in the game but are more then content to lay all the blame on the ref?

Ref did wrong but Fergie acted amateurish in the immediate aftermath

Knee, ref never makes the call - Fergie never goes off. He should have reacted better, but a large portion of the blame does lie with the referee.

For what it's worth the unbiased views of a neutral (I'm a Wolves supporter but I watch teams like you, Real and Barcelona when I want to see how the game should be played rather than indulge in another 90 minutes of masochism.

1. It was not a red card - yellow at most.

2. However, I fully expected that your guys would have the experience to reorganise immediately and make life very difficult for Real, in all likelihood holding on to your goal lead or at worst getting to extra time and penalties when the man short would be pretty much irrelevant. We've seen these kinds of successful rearguard actions by far less experienced and resolute teams than Man United.

3. I think the fact that you didn't hold out was not so much losing a player as letting the injustice of the sending off affect the judgement of the players and, possibly, your manager.

At the end of the day this is football and 'Poor refereeing decisions affects outcome of big game' is hardly a 'shock, horror' headline, is it, guys?

PS: Who at Man U has upset Roy Keane - or has he just lost the plot?

I agree bad decision Jay but he has to be used to refs making bad decision both for and against his team, he seemed far more concerned with venting his frustration then managing the team. I'd be very annoyed with Fergie as even with 10 men you'd plenty of decent chances so if he'd acted quickly and went 4-4-1 or even a version of 4-5-0 with a lone striker dropping into midfield you coudl have kept the pressure up on Alonso and Modric who got all the time in the world after then sending off and this is how they managed to score the 2 goals.

PS: Who at Man U has upset Roy Keane - or has he just lost the plot?

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I think Nani pìssed on his cornflakes.

SteadyEddy (U11917)

Are you wired up properly??

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"While a whole footballing nation is gutted by the decision, UEFA actually does nothing about it. "
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I suspect that 90+% of the "nation" is delighted to see Man. U and their "thriggerhappy(?)" manager get it handed to them. The very fact that one of their fans would think the "nation" and Man. U walk in lockstep is evidence of their arrogance and stupidity.

I seriously doubt if Nani will be back at Man. U next year. Once Fergie understands that his tackle was dumb, unnecessary and probably cost them the game, once he comes to that realisation, Nani will be burnt toast!

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You can work out what the extra letter in thriggerhappy is surely

It's Fletcher v Arsenal all over again.

Fletcher sending off might not have affected the tie, but he was one of our top performers that season and would definitely have started in the final (where we lacked energy in midfield and allowed ourselves to be overrun).

Just heard that UEFA have actually awarded the ref an 8.2 rating for his performance and consider him to have been right with the sending off. Beggars belief.