Enjoyed reading this as an Arsenal fan
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It looks like 65-68 points will be enough this season, imo, to get 4th.
Can see Arsenal getting 5 wins to get to that mark, plus a couple of draws.
Spurs to get 5 wins from their 8 games would be a great effort, tbh. 4 wins and a couple of draws will also see a couple of very good results thrown in.
I think Chelsea will do enough. For me it is between Arsenal and Spurs.
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70 pts would do it (IMHO the 4th placed team will finish with less than 70 pts this season) .
Number Eight
Swansea are near the bottom of the form table and as they are safe mid table they seem to be having a post league cup slow down like we did in 2008. They are still ok at home though, would settle for a point but with some tough fixtures coming up at home, 3 pts would be great.
I woudl also rather see Chelsea drop out the top 4 TBH.
Swanseas season pretty much ended at Wembley...
But... teams like this can start to enjoy their football, and if given any encouragement, will put in good performances here and there, especially at home, and especially against top teams.
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A lot may depend on whether United win the title with 4 games to go, if they do then that means they visit Arsenal having already been crowned champions. Potentially that could be a win for Arsenal or a bore draw (I see no reason why Utd should rest players though), if the game was competitive then I think Utd would come out on top.
It may only be one game but according to the PL predictor feature this one will go right down to the wire between Spurs and Arsenal, and the difference between a win, draw or loss in that fixture may prove to be important.
The next 4 games are key. We have Reading and Norwich at home, WBA and Everton away. 10 points from that and I will be happy.
In the same time Spurs have Swansea, Everton and Chelsea.
If we are not above Spurs after we play Everton then I don't think we have a chance.
You can never take anything for granted. We could achieve 70 points and it not be enough. It's happened before where it hasn't. One thing 70 points would ensure is a slight improvement on Harry last season by AVB. Hopefully less than 70 will be enough as I'm struggling to see us achieve the 16 points required in the games we have left:
Swansea (A)
Everton (H)
Man City (H)
Wigan (A)
Southampton (H)
Stoke (A)
Sunderland (H)
Like you say 4 wins and 3 draws, or alternatively 5 wins and 1 draw. Maybe too much to ask from those above fixtures.
Oops forgot Chelsea (A) - 4 wins and 4 draws
I think Chelsea will definitely finish 3rd. Spurs or Arsenal will finish 4th. At this stage, points on board is all that matters and until Arsenal can win their game in hand against Everton, Spurs are favourites for 4th.
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Yeah either way it's going to be tight...
Same as you Number Eight - woudl always take a trophy over top 4, we have done well without top 4 and we can do again. I was too young to remember the last time we won a European trophy and would love to see us win it
I stopped predicting points when we lost at home to Fulham. All things considered i think it will be a miracle if we finish 4th now. We have the toughest run in by a long stretch and we have the biggest cup distraction (Chelsea have a bigger squad, so rotation is less of a problem). Our lads are already looking tired. I sometimes wonder whether AVB's not having ever played professionally makes him a little naive in this department. He's not fully aware of the physical and mental strain of playing so many fixtures at once in such a high intensity league. Even the best managers know that rotation is important at some point. 5th for me. I wouldn't mind betting that we end up closer to Liverpool in points than we do Arsenal or Chelsea.
Winning the Europa would be great, it would also mean a Super Cup game V the winner of the CL. Now that would be great!
Interesting that the final is in Amsterdam. The last final we played in Holland was in Rotterdam in 1963, exactly 50 years ago.
The 5th placed side will have no more than 68pts. Bookmark it
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posted on 28/3/13
Enjoyed reading this as an Arsenal fan
posted on 28/3/13
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posted on 28/3/13
It looks like 65-68 points will be enough this season, imo, to get 4th.
Can see Arsenal getting 5 wins to get to that mark, plus a couple of draws.
Spurs to get 5 wins from their 8 games would be a great effort, tbh. 4 wins and a couple of draws will also see a couple of very good results thrown in.
I think Chelsea will do enough. For me it is between Arsenal and Spurs.
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posted on 28/3/13
70 pts would do it (IMHO the 4th placed team will finish with less than 70 pts this season) .
posted on 28/3/13
Number Eight
Swansea are near the bottom of the form table and as they are safe mid table they seem to be having a post league cup slow down like we did in 2008. They are still ok at home though, would settle for a point but with some tough fixtures coming up at home, 3 pts would be great.
I woudl also rather see Chelsea drop out the top 4 TBH.
posted on 28/3/13
Swanseas season pretty much ended at Wembley...
But... teams like this can start to enjoy their football, and if given any encouragement, will put in good performances here and there, especially at home, and especially against top teams.
posted on 28/3/13
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posted on 28/3/13
A lot may depend on whether United win the title with 4 games to go, if they do then that means they visit Arsenal having already been crowned champions. Potentially that could be a win for Arsenal or a bore draw (I see no reason why Utd should rest players though), if the game was competitive then I think Utd would come out on top.
It may only be one game but according to the PL predictor feature this one will go right down to the wire between Spurs and Arsenal, and the difference between a win, draw or loss in that fixture may prove to be important.
posted on 28/3/13
The next 4 games are key. We have Reading and Norwich at home, WBA and Everton away. 10 points from that and I will be happy.
In the same time Spurs have Swansea, Everton and Chelsea.
If we are not above Spurs after we play Everton then I don't think we have a chance.
posted on 28/3/13
You can never take anything for granted. We could achieve 70 points and it not be enough. It's happened before where it hasn't. One thing 70 points would ensure is a slight improvement on Harry last season by AVB. Hopefully less than 70 will be enough as I'm struggling to see us achieve the 16 points required in the games we have left:
Swansea (A)
Everton (H)
Man City (H)
Wigan (A)
Southampton (H)
Stoke (A)
Sunderland (H)
Like you say 4 wins and 3 draws, or alternatively 5 wins and 1 draw. Maybe too much to ask from those above fixtures.
posted on 28/3/13
Oops forgot Chelsea (A) - 4 wins and 4 draws
posted on 28/3/13
I think Chelsea will definitely finish 3rd. Spurs or Arsenal will finish 4th. At this stage, points on board is all that matters and until Arsenal can win their game in hand against Everton, Spurs are favourites for 4th.
posted on 28/3/13
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posted on 28/3/13
Yeah either way it's going to be tight...
Same as you Number Eight - woudl always take a trophy over top 4, we have done well without top 4 and we can do again. I was too young to remember the last time we won a European trophy and would love to see us win it
posted on 28/3/13
I stopped predicting points when we lost at home to Fulham. All things considered i think it will be a miracle if we finish 4th now. We have the toughest run in by a long stretch and we have the biggest cup distraction (Chelsea have a bigger squad, so rotation is less of a problem). Our lads are already looking tired. I sometimes wonder whether AVB's not having ever played professionally makes him a little naive in this department. He's not fully aware of the physical and mental strain of playing so many fixtures at once in such a high intensity league. Even the best managers know that rotation is important at some point. 5th for me. I wouldn't mind betting that we end up closer to Liverpool in points than we do Arsenal or Chelsea.
posted on 28/3/13
Winning the Europa would be great, it would also mean a Super Cup game V the winner of the CL. Now that would be great!
Interesting that the final is in Amsterdam. The last final we played in Holland was in Rotterdam in 1963, exactly 50 years ago.
posted on 28/3/13
The 5th placed side will have no more than 68pts. Bookmark it
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