It's not possible to compete with United if FFP has teeth

So I agree United will hit 40 before anyone else gets 20

Don't Arsenal have financial stability and a stadium that makes them lots of money. They also have the attraction of being in London.

I would reckon if the FFP actually takes effect then Arsenal should be able to take advantage although the owners would need to start looking into real investment into the team and understand success on the pitch can mean success financially.

If its any team then its Arsenal. But United will continue to dominate, they are just a massive money making machine. Look at the new deal for naming rights for teh training ground and kit. most clubs would take that for their ground!

Arsenal are way too far behind

United's commercial deals alone give them a decade head start.

If they manage to find a way to remove the billionaires then it's a one horse race pretty much permanently

You have to take away the Fergie factor as well in the future. At the moment, United look unstoppable in the league. Yeah they lost to City but that's after accumulating a 15 point or so lead over their nearest rivals. Fergie is keeping this team going. With any other manager with the same set of players, would you have got the same results?

With regards to FFP, i think it will work but not to the extent that people think it will, as in it wont completely remove City and Chelsea from the challenging for the league and stop them spending big and getting around the rules. Football right now is one big cash cow. Everyone is getting a piece of the cake apart from the fans obviously. Managers, players, Agents, Directors, Uefa executives.... They're all making something out of it. Why would they harm something, that is making them money, that much?

comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 7 minutes ago
You have to take away the Fergie factor as well in the future. At the moment, United look unstoppable in the league. Yeah they lost to City but that's after accumulating a 15 point or so lead over their nearest rivals. Fergie is keeping this team going
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I was listening to someone coming out with that cliche earlier

The team is playing poorly. There is very little effort in the players. Players are been played out of position, Sir Alex won't let go of Giggs, there is no fluidity in our play, our wingers are awful, Rooney's been below par, RVP has gone off the boil and there is very little 'never say die' atitude on view on the pitch

Just how is Sir Alex getting us over the line?

People wheel out that it's the refuse to lose attitude he insills in the players.

I don't see any of that at the moment. All I see is complacency

This season, It isn't all because of Sir Alex while we are ahead.

If it is, someone needs to show me how exactly

I would say it'smore down to our defence being so solid in the second half of the season and that is just as well given the way we have played going forward

Mr. C. But you are acting like Fergie is working with the Swansea squad. Whoever come in to replace him will have the advantage of some very good young players and a ridiculous amount of money to continue to dominate.

The sheer amount of money United make in comparison to their rivals means we'll continue to dominate.

Arsenal on the other hand are so far behind, regardless of Fergie.

You're top of the league Macca. How have you managed that?

Darren yeah of course you'll have a shedload of money to spend but so will other teams around you but this time, you wont have Fergie there to rebuild team after team and keep on winning titles. Lets be fair. Fergie knows the Premier League like the back of his hand. Might not be that great in the cup comps but the Premier League, he could win it, in his sleep.

As much as United have dominated the league others have pretty much handed it to them on a plate.City and Chelsea really haven't shown up this season.United don't need to be impressive to churn out 1 or 2 goal victories against the fulhams and WBA ofthis world never mind the readings and QPR's.

Whoever takes over from SAF will have a set up that is full of winners with winners attitudes.Perhaps a new person would bring some hunger back and get players out of their comfort zones

But it also depends on FFP and who the next manager is.

The teams mentioned will not have nearly as much money as United, especially Arsenal why I find the notion of them do imaging laughable.

Of all the team we are by far the best placed to continue to dominate this league.

Yes Fergie has been a massive reason for that but the club will still prosper without him.

Would Fergie have dominated this league without having the money he's had? Not trying to say it's the only reason but he's certainly had an advantage.

I love Fergie, but people are inconsistent in their analysis of him.

They say he only wins do much because of money and then say he's carrying United and they'll be buggered without him.

To me, it's someone in the middle. And why I believe the club will be fine once he leaves. The next appointment will be huge, but I trust that it will be the correct one.

Phil, this is true.

One thing that is overlooked is that the winning mentality can often be something that is engrained within the club as well as the management and players.

It needed Fergie for this to happen, but it Chelsea needed Mourinho for it to happen and have still done well since he left.

Many of our good players will be here for a long while and will then pass on their experience to the younger players.

That's why Fergie is so good with transition due to how he does this - even though I think he's dilly dallying with Scholes and Giggs.

The fear is how well the next manager builds his sides.

They'll never do what Fergie has done these last twenty odd years but the money we have will mean we can keep building competive squads.

I love Fergie, but people are inconsistent in their analysis of him.

They say he only wins do much because of money and then say he's carrying United and they'll be buggered without him.
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Yeah thats a crap analysis of him. What I was trying to get at was there's no other league in the manager who gets instant respect from pretty much every player, young or old, like Fergie does. He can just about do pretty much anything with the Utd team, play every single player out of position and 9 times out of 10, he will get a result. Remember when he played the twins in midfield against Arsenal a few years back? Only Fergie can rotate so much and keep pretty much everyone happy and only Fergie can rebuild team after team without it ever looking like he was rebuild because he's still winning titles whilst in transition

Whoever the new manager is, yes he will have money but he will have the ridiculous task of following Fergie and it wont be easy running Utd when some players specifically moved to Utd because of their desire to play under Fergie. Not saying he was the sole reason but a big reason why some players choose Utd over other clubs.

United fall when Fergie retires. I just cant see it, its all setup to continue winning the league. Jesus, even Rodgers could win the title with this side.

I get what you're saying, but it all boils down to money. And United are top dogs.

People probably aren't aware that the debt will be gone in a few years and the Glazers will need United to remain competitive.

Yes Fergie does what you say, but you act like no other manager could get United dominating, which is false.

The rotation thing is valid, and it's down to Fergie that United are still able to win.

However, many United fans have problems with Fergie's policies as it's having a massive effect on team and the football we play rather than the squad.

Another manager may come in and improve this aspect and make us better than we are at the moment - especially if they're backed with a lot of money.

Let's say we get Pep - he'll change this and make us play amazing football and attract players on the basis that they want to play for him, play that type of football and play for United.

This may sound like I'm not giving Fergie enough credit, it's not, I'm jus fully aware of all the ins and outs of United and know we are perfectly placed once he retires.

Let's say we get Pep - he'll change this and make us play amazing football and attract players on the basis that they want to play for him, play that type of football and play for United.

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Why would he need to buy, United keep churning out great youth players. He will attract a certain type from all over teh world to United.

Fell, in fairness, we don't actually keep churning out great youth products.

There are a few coming through that looked talented, though. Whether they'll get the chance or make it into the first team is another thing.

Maybe Pep would help improve the youth set up?

These are hypotheticals, so we just do not know.

But I fail to see how United will fall away once Fergie goes. There's actually a thread on the United board saying we could end up like Liverpool.

Which great youth are United churning out? Evans, Welbeck and Cleverley are the only one's I can think of and they aren't exactly great, of course the potential is there but that's all it is at the moment.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721) posted 16 minutes ago
Which great youth are United churning out? Evans, Welbeck and Cleverley are the only one's I can think of and they aren't exactly great, of course the potential is there but that's all it is at the moment


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They have played a very large number of games, cost nothing and are part of a team walking the league....yeah, I would love those average players at Everton

This is an interesting article and it's more likely United well hit 30 before anyone else hits 20. I can see city, Chelsea and United getting the share of the next ten years titles with possibly arsenal or Tottenham sneaking one in that time.

we should be putting two stars on our shirt from next season in recognition of this momentous feat

obviously under Di Canio Sunderland are next.