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He's been at your club for like 7 years? And hasn't really improved that much, doubt that's suddenly going to change now.
No, he can't. He just doesn't have the talent even if he tried.
He's been at your club for like 7 years? And hasn't really improved that much
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Laughable claim. He's improved immensely.
However, I don't really see it. I suppose the Bale comparison is a potentially valid one - his improvement in technique has been very, very impressive, but Theo is 24 now. I have no doubt he'll continue to get better as a player but he won't be able to replicate Bale's improvement.
Question. Could anyone see Bale stepping up like he did this season?
You'd all probably laugh if I asked the same question about the Welshman last year.
"And hasn't really improved that much, doubt that's suddenly going to change now."
Clearly you haven't been watching him.
"However, I don't really see it. I suppose the Bale comparison is a potentially valid one - his improvement in technique has been very, very impressive, but Theo is 24 now. I have no doubt he'll continue to get better as a player but he won't be able to replicate Bale's improvement."
Only one year difference between the two.
And it's not like 24 is the end of his development.
I don't even necessarily think Walcott lacks that much talent.
He's more feeble minded than anything.
Look at how he was playing when he was hungry for that contract.
Il be surprised if he ever turns out to be worldclass however hel still be a very good player that will score and create for club and country. I was having a chat with my best mate who is spurs mad unfortunately, and we both agreed that Bale has left Theo behind like theo has left Lennon.
Laughable claim. He's improved immensely.
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By adding more goals (against weaker teams mostly)? He's still that inconsistent sprinter without much technical ability. He's a squad player at best.
Only one year difference between the two.
And it's not like 24 is the end of his development.
I don't even necessarily think Walcott lacks that much talent.
He's more feeble minded than anything.
Look at how he was playing when he was hungry for that contract.
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Bale had been making steps forward every season for 2/3 years prior to this one, though, and it was at 23 when he made his biggest step forward. For Theo, that ship has sailed. As I said, I do fully expect him to continue to develop and improve over the next couple of years but it's unusual for a player whose primary attributes are physical ones to experience much development once they hit 24/25. That's what makes Bale special, and hopefully Walcott can continue to improve his technical ability.
I agree that he doesn't lack talent - his first touch isn't bad, his movement's often pretty good and the improvement in his finishing and crossing over the last 18 months or so has been excellent. I would say that the only winger in the league with better crossing and finishing ability is Bale, and even that's debatable (he does miss a few decent openings, his goals are usually spectacular). If he can improve his all-round game, he will certainly be a cracking player.
He's actually improved his technique and ball control. He's not the same player he used to be.
Stop talking out of your behind.
You Mancs know all about squad player what with the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, etc running amok at your club.
By adding goals against weaker teams.
That old chestnut, there's not s team in the PL bar man city who he hasn't scored against. In fact he has more goals than Valencia and Nani combined if I'm not mistaken. To say he hasn't improved in 7 yrs is delusional. Ok he hasn't got to the worldclass level that the media predicted but he's 100% improved.
He's improved in front of goal immensely. His composure inside the box is very good. Can he score different types of goal though other than being put through on goal 1 on 1 with the goalie?
I don't think I've ever seen Walcott power a shot in.
That's where Bale has the upper hand on him atm. Bale can do volleys, long range shots, freekicks, dribble past a few and get a shot on goal.
nani and valencia......................
By adding more goals (against weaker teams mostly)?
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Partly. The fact that he scores mostly against Spurs, Untied, Chelsea etc would seem to refute your parenthesised claim. Also, the all-round improvement in his game - his movement, first touch, dribbling ability, close control and crossing are all pretty decent these days. He used to be criticised for not having an end product, but it's rare these days that he'll get into a good position and not produce either a good effort on goal or a useful cross.
He's still that inconsistent sprinter without much technical ability.
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He's inconsistent, yes. As is every single forward player in the world. He is a "sprinter", you say - by which I presume you actually meant "his primary attribute is his extreme pace". Well yes, he's a winger. I've already touched on the improvements to his technical ability, but what it comes down to is the fact that he's a highly effective forward, capable of destroying any team's defence. Besides, I don't care whether his crosses have curve and dip or a perfectly flat trajectory if they end up in the same place - they still reach the bloomin' target!
He's a squad player at best.
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I'll take another three squad players of his effectiveness, then, thankyou. Far superior player to the likes of Welbeck or Valencia, both of whom are pretty regular starters at the best club in the league.
Walcott could be world class. But it all depends on how much he wants it.
Bale has got the potential to be the best in the world and it won't be long until he reaches it if he keeps going. Theo just needs to keep doing what he's doing and finding the net, he's had a great season.
The thing with Walcott is that because he's got such a small frame, he will always get knocked off the ball very easily and his dribbling style is kind of different. Cannot describe it properly here but its not close control dribbling like you see from other good dribblers. He's very prone to losing the ball whenever he tries running with it due to his style of dribbling and because of his game being based on speed, I dont think that'll change.
That's where Bale has the upper hand on him atm. Bale can do volleys, long range shots, freekicks, dribble past a few and get a shot on goal.
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Theo can do all of that...................but not very well
For example remember that Nasri goal against Porto was it? In the CL? He dribbled past 3 players, weaving in and out and took a shot and scored. I dont see Theo ever being able to do that.
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posted 38 minutes ago
Can Walcott Reach That 'World Class' Level?
If they found the foutain of youth and he carried on playing until infinite and beyond, not a fackin chance.
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posted 37 minutes ago
Only with a step ladder
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His 2nd or 3rd goal against Newcastle was pretty much an example of what he can do. I just think he lacks confidence to do it imo. He doesn't do it enough, his run yrs ago vs Liverpool was one if the greatest individual efforts seen in the CL. I wouldn't say it's not there but we rarely see it which is frustrating.
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posted on 17/5/13
Only with a step ladder
posted on 17/5/13
He's been at your club for like 7 years? And hasn't really improved that much, doubt that's suddenly going to change now.
posted on 17/5/13
No, he can't. He just doesn't have the talent even if he tried.
posted on 17/5/13
He's been at your club for like 7 years? And hasn't really improved that much
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Laughable claim. He's improved immensely.
However, I don't really see it. I suppose the Bale comparison is a potentially valid one - his improvement in technique has been very, very impressive, but Theo is 24 now. I have no doubt he'll continue to get better as a player but he won't be able to replicate Bale's improvement.
posted on 17/5/13
Question. Could anyone see Bale stepping up like he did this season?
You'd all probably laugh if I asked the same question about the Welshman last year.
posted on 17/5/13
"And hasn't really improved that much, doubt that's suddenly going to change now."
Clearly you haven't been watching him.
posted on 17/5/13
"However, I don't really see it. I suppose the Bale comparison is a potentially valid one - his improvement in technique has been very, very impressive, but Theo is 24 now. I have no doubt he'll continue to get better as a player but he won't be able to replicate Bale's improvement."
Only one year difference between the two.
And it's not like 24 is the end of his development.
I don't even necessarily think Walcott lacks that much talent.
He's more feeble minded than anything.
Look at how he was playing when he was hungry for that contract.
posted on 17/5/13
Il be surprised if he ever turns out to be worldclass however hel still be a very good player that will score and create for club and country. I was having a chat with my best mate who is spurs mad unfortunately, and we both agreed that Bale has left Theo behind like theo has left Lennon.
posted on 17/5/13
Laughable claim. He's improved immensely.
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By adding more goals (against weaker teams mostly)? He's still that inconsistent sprinter without much technical ability. He's a squad player at best.
posted on 17/5/13
Only one year difference between the two.
And it's not like 24 is the end of his development.
I don't even necessarily think Walcott lacks that much talent.
He's more feeble minded than anything.
Look at how he was playing when he was hungry for that contract.
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Bale had been making steps forward every season for 2/3 years prior to this one, though, and it was at 23 when he made his biggest step forward. For Theo, that ship has sailed. As I said, I do fully expect him to continue to develop and improve over the next couple of years but it's unusual for a player whose primary attributes are physical ones to experience much development once they hit 24/25. That's what makes Bale special, and hopefully Walcott can continue to improve his technical ability.
I agree that he doesn't lack talent - his first touch isn't bad, his movement's often pretty good and the improvement in his finishing and crossing over the last 18 months or so has been excellent. I would say that the only winger in the league with better crossing and finishing ability is Bale, and even that's debatable (he does miss a few decent openings, his goals are usually spectacular). If he can improve his all-round game, he will certainly be a cracking player.
posted on 17/5/13
He's actually improved his technique and ball control. He's not the same player he used to be.
Stop talking out of your behind.
You Mancs know all about squad player what with the likes of Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, etc running amok at your club.
posted on 17/5/13
By adding goals against weaker teams.
That old chestnut, there's not s team in the PL bar man city who he hasn't scored against. In fact he has more goals than Valencia and Nani combined if I'm not mistaken. To say he hasn't improved in 7 yrs is delusional. Ok he hasn't got to the worldclass level that the media predicted but he's 100% improved.
posted on 17/5/13
He's improved in front of goal immensely. His composure inside the box is very good. Can he score different types of goal though other than being put through on goal 1 on 1 with the goalie?
posted on 17/5/13
I don't think I've ever seen Walcott power a shot in.
posted on 17/5/13
That's where Bale has the upper hand on him atm. Bale can do volleys, long range shots, freekicks, dribble past a few and get a shot on goal.
posted on 17/5/13
nani and valencia......................
posted on 17/5/13
By adding more goals (against weaker teams mostly)?
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Partly. The fact that he scores mostly against Spurs, Untied, Chelsea etc would seem to refute your parenthesised claim. Also, the all-round improvement in his game - his movement, first touch, dribbling ability, close control and crossing are all pretty decent these days. He used to be criticised for not having an end product, but it's rare these days that he'll get into a good position and not produce either a good effort on goal or a useful cross.
He's still that inconsistent sprinter without much technical ability.
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He's inconsistent, yes. As is every single forward player in the world. He is a "sprinter", you say - by which I presume you actually meant "his primary attribute is his extreme pace". Well yes, he's a winger. I've already touched on the improvements to his technical ability, but what it comes down to is the fact that he's a highly effective forward, capable of destroying any team's defence. Besides, I don't care whether his crosses have curve and dip or a perfectly flat trajectory if they end up in the same place - they still reach the bloomin' target!
He's a squad player at best.
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I'll take another three squad players of his effectiveness, then, thankyou. Far superior player to the likes of Welbeck or Valencia, both of whom are pretty regular starters at the best club in the league.
posted on 17/5/13
Walcott could be world class. But it all depends on how much he wants it.
posted on 17/5/13
Bale has got the potential to be the best in the world and it won't be long until he reaches it if he keeps going. Theo just needs to keep doing what he's doing and finding the net, he's had a great season.
posted on 17/5/13
The thing with Walcott is that because he's got such a small frame, he will always get knocked off the ball very easily and his dribbling style is kind of different. Cannot describe it properly here but its not close control dribbling like you see from other good dribblers. He's very prone to losing the ball whenever he tries running with it due to his style of dribbling and because of his game being based on speed, I dont think that'll change.
posted on 17/5/13
That's where Bale has the upper hand on him atm. Bale can do volleys, long range shots, freekicks, dribble past a few and get a shot on goal.
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Theo can do all of that...................but not very well
posted on 17/5/13
For example remember that Nasri goal against Porto was it? In the CL? He dribbled past 3 players, weaving in and out and took a shot and scored. I dont see Theo ever being able to do that.
posted on 17/5/13
comment by ♠♥G♣♦Beanie & Caant♠♥S♣♦®Ω♫™The Bette Midler of Good News™.♫♫♫♫♫ (U10415)
posted 38 minutes ago
Can Walcott Reach That 'World Class' Level?
If they found the foutain of youth and he carried on playing until infinite and beyond, not a fackin chance.
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger (U8934)
posted 37 minutes ago
Only with a step ladder
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posted on 17/5/13
Mr Chelsea
His 2nd or 3rd goal against Newcastle was pretty much an example of what he can do. I just think he lacks confidence to do it imo. He doesn't do it enough, his run yrs ago vs Liverpool was one if the greatest individual efforts seen in the CL. I wouldn't say it's not there but we rarely see it which is frustrating.
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