Do you have a source for that jenius? Or are you just making it up, pep didn't have a club last season 40 million is expensive for a 'bangmaid'?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/399289/Bayern-Munich-manager-to-be-Pep-Guardiola-sets-sights-on-Arsenal-star-Jack-Wilshere

Just a few issues, 1, no mention of a fee, 2, no quotes, 3, transfer gossip, 4, has any actual bid been made? No.

Any concrete source rather than garbage spouted by the rags?

No direct quotes from Pep or from anyone from Bayern Munich on that link.All media speculation and nothing else

"JA606 is a light-weight sports discussion forum..."

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Just as well given some of the daft comments I've just read here.

Cretins. Waste of oxygen and space.

I wouldn't say Ramsey and Wilshere were that bad Dubbed.....well maybe Wilshere

"As an Evertonian I thank god it's not £17million + Jack Wilshere.Don't rate Ramsey much but I rate him higher the Wilshere,who let's be honest is an over hyped no mark player."
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Your logic in this thread suggests Gibson is better than both Ramsey & Wilshere

At no time have I made any comparison between Ramsey/Wilshere and Gibson.In fact the only time I mentioned Gibson was in response to someone who wrongly claimed I said I rated Gibson.

So c'mon Einstein please explain that I have suggested that I rate Gibson higher than Ramsey or Wilshere when I never mentioned Gibson once

Don't you rate Gibson PN?

Ramsey is better than fellaini. only one way to judge it, arsenal v everton. fellaini man marked ramsey, ramsey got man of the match. Ramsey > fellaini.

Ramsey was better than wilshere last season, hence wilshere was dropped, ramsey wasnt.

And I thought Liverpool and Spurs fans were the mkst deluded!!

Fact is if Ramsey went to Everton right now evem with Fellaini he would become your most important player! The lad gives no less than 100% every game and surely at a side like Everton that would be appreciated more than at a fancy club like Arsenal!
The Wilshere bashing however is ludicrous! Clearly some people didn't watch Arsenal v Barcelona or England v Brazil etc! There is a reason why the nations world cup hopes (albeit miniscule) rest of Jack the lad!

Wilshere is a cracking player, no doubt.
But whoever thinks Fellaini man marked Ramsey at the emerites is.on glue, I suggest you start learning about positional play and a players role in that setup....
And stay off the pipe

Fact is if Ramsey went to Everton right now evem with Fellaini he would become your most important player!

Behave soft sh-it,I've seen many a Arsenal fan ripping into Ramsey,so he can't be all that good. Like I've posted before,I'd be gutted if Ramsey was Fellaini's replacement.

I hope Barkley gets a chance this season. He hardly got a sniff under Moyes.

The Wilshere bashing however is ludicrous! Clearly some people didn't watch Arsenal v Barcelona or England v Brazil etc! There is a reason why the nations world cup hopes (albeit miniscule) rest of Jack the lad!


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One of the reasons England may not even qualify to the World Cup in Brazil is playing the over hyped Wilshere.

"I've seen many a Arsenal fan ripping into Ramsey,so he can't be all that good."

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Presumably you also thought Bale wasn't 'that good' when the Spurs fans were moaning about him at the beginning of last season?

But whoever thinks Fellaini man marked Ramsey at the emerites is.on glue, I suggest you start learning about positional play and a players role in that setup....
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Did you watch that match, just wondering? Fellaini was definately man marking Ramsey, the fact he got called for 4 fouls against ramsey in the first 20 minutes should give you your first indication of that.

When Ramsey was getting slated he was playing out of position (rw/rb etc) and never had a consistant run in cm.

However at the end of the season he played about 15 games in a row in cm and got arsenal player of the mobth aswell as the fact we conceded about 1 goal in open play in that time!

Wilshere was the reason England beat Brazil in that friendly against them at Wembley! It was refreshing to see an England player play with no fear and run at the opposition at any given chance, dribbling away from 3-5 defenders before releasing the ball every time.

If you don't rate Wilshere you can't appreciate a fantastic talent but I understand that from a club like Everton who get by with average players with a great work ethic.

Jack Wilshere is an Englishman with the ability and instincts of a Spanish player!

Every dog has it's day.Wilshere apparently played well against a Brazil side in a meaningless friendly.Well done Jack,it makes up for all the poor and mediocre other performances he's put in.

comment by Ramsey (U5023)
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But whoever thinks Fellaini man marked Ramsey at the emerites is.on glue, I suggest you start learning about positional play and a players role in that setup....
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Did you watch that match, just wondering? Fellaini was definately man marking Ramsey, the fact he got called for 4 fouls against ramsey in the first 20 minutes should give you your first indication of that.


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Really, can you prove this?

How's about this for a swap deal:

We'll take one of your best players off your hands in exchange for some money for Bill to spend putting on another West End musical with the balance going on... oh, someone or other from the SPL.

You guys then get to see another of your former players performing at a much higher level than you could give them, rocking yourselves backwards and forwards whilst kidding yourselves that his best days were behind him anyway.

Sounds good, no?

Well at least it'll sound familiar.

We can't really talk about selling your best players as Arsenal fans though really can we Lex!

You should have seen Arteta in his prime Lex,he was some player,not the same player you see now.

He was someone you could rave about with some justification.