Bloody hell, just saw the score. Really hope Villarreal get top four.

Would be an incredible achievement to come straight back up and then get into the CL.

If we can play with this intensity it is possible, but Athletic have got to be the favourites. We look different team when Bruno plays...

Have you played Bilbao yet?

Yeah, we lost 2-0 away. I think that was our first defeat of the season...

Bruno being subbed now. Another great game, another player so unlucky to be playing so well and be up against so many good Spanish players- would love Del Bosque to pick him soon!

Some Arab team bought Depors best player

Gio nearly gets his hat-trick from a free-kick!

Bilabao are good at home as well. Should be an exciting CL race.

We really need to win our next two league games if we're to compete- simply because it's two games a Champions League team should be winning.

Would snap your arm off for Europa League place though.

Maybe we'll play you in the Europa League?

And maybe it will be 0-0 again.

Knowing us we'll probably lose the Copa Del Rey game now.

FULL TIME.

Knowing us we won't qualify for the Europa League.

Does 6th get you Europa League?

Moyes' teams traditionally get better towards the end of the season, his training methods seem to be questionable and other than last season he generally started poorly.

Depends what happens in the cups. League Cup winners, 5th and the FA Cup winners get Europa.

If both the FA Cup finalists have qualified for Europe through the league then it goes to the league, same for the League Cup, but if the FA Cup winners haven't qualified for Europe and the winners have then they get Europa.

FA Cup runners up, sorry.

So basically you need to beat Sunderland to guarantee Europe?

If you do qualify for Europa at least you've got two chances to qualify for the Champions League in 2014/15.

Yeah that's true. There are loads of bellen.ds on our board that are saying if we don't get CL then hopefully we don't get Europa.

Completely ignoring the repercussions of not being in Europe at all.

I agree, it's quite pathetic that people would rather not play in Europe to boost their objective or err playing in Europe!

It's easier to win the Europa League than finish in the top four, probably.

See if the team that wins the Europa League, e.g Benfica (the type of team that can win the Europa League and obviously qualify for Champs League anyway in Portugal)- does the runner-up get the spot?

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The Sunday argument annoys me, the competition is every two weeks during the groups and top teams like United are often playing on Sundays every other week to accommodate Sky Sports.

That is true. It may have an affect in the ko rounds, but not to the extent that people make out.

It shouldn't in the group stages as the groups are so poor that your first team squad are likely to be fresher after a Europa League game than a CL game.

Look at the groups Spurs have been getting.