Just to say the tackle last night on Mason should of been a straight red, same as the tackle on Billy. Both feet off the floor is a sending off, a tackle from behind with both feet off the ground is not only a sending off offence its possibly a career ending one.
Must say something about last night, if Bennett wasnt such a good jumper, he would of been taken of on two stretchers as some off the tackles were, lets say, wild, for want of a better word. Had the ref got his card out for these tackles, Mason would probably be playing on Saturday instead of being out for 4/6 weeks.
I'm going for Dunk not even being in their squad when they play the return fixure at the Keepmoat
I see one of their players was tackled from behind last night in their match against Gillingham and they're in uproar because the lad who did it only got a yellow. And most of their fans think Buckley dived for the penalty that won them the game.
The more possession a side has the more tackles it will have to endure. Coming up against teams with a less sophisticated approach carries and will continue to carry added risk of injury. Naylor and Spurr were exceptions to the DRFC norm on day1 and that is embarrassing, but apart from that, in general, our style is well known in the division.
We cannot afford to lose players at this rate and it would be a shame if they were forced into abandoning skill out of fear.
I have never refereed, but I do believe that persistent foul play is a yellow card offence and a series of mistimed or over-exuberant unsuccessful tackles, even if no injuries are caused, rightly warrants such punishment.
I somehow feel that if we were a PL side we would get better "protection". SOD has fergursonised his comments a little and they will not go unnoticed amongst referees or even opposing managers; it's a shame we had to suffer 3 serious injuries and a huge blow to our season's hopes before there is even a chance that our players will get a fair deal.
Hi Alex - I saw the tackle live on TV with 3 replays. I thought yellow at the time. Naylors tackle that he got booked for looked a lot worse from my seat.
That's the problem. Its opinion / interpretation. One ref's red is another ref's yellow. Its actually part of what makes football so intriguing. If they were all black and white what would we talk about in the pub afterwards?
Agree with Bally (see, it does happen) I would love to see refs behaving more like rugby referees. I'll never forget getting a lecture from a rugby referee because I called him "ref" and not "sir". It woke me up I can tell you!
I would still like to see more use of video evidence.
The main way that you would stop these tackles (whether we disagree on yellow or red, we agree they need to be stopped) is to punish the perpetrators.
What I would do is have expontential bans. If a player is banned for the first time in his career, he gets a one match ban. The second ban of his career gets a two match ban. Then 4, 8, 16 etc. If a player insists on playing dirty, he's going to end up not playing at all.
I'd also suggest that reforming (i.e. good discipline) allows the player to come back down a scale. So if a player who is looking at a 16 match ban for the next time he gets banned keeps his yellow card-count under 3 for a season, his next potential ban will reduce to 8 matches.
The potential ban will effect their earning potential and that should persuade them to tackle fairly.
Yes Fuzzy, and when you bought him a drink in the bar it was still Sir wasn't it, nothing wrong with that. Footballers cannot understand that you would buy a referree a pint after a game and sit and discuss the game more friendly than for 80 mins, ah those days were excellent.
Totally agree ionly.
When I was at Hunslet we had a sixteen year old Academy lad up before the disciplinary committee. He had been sent off for telling the ref to "f... off".
We were asked to supply a defence for the lad. Our coach, Steve Ferris, told the committe that the lad did at least say "f... off SIR," which is the correct way to do it in Rugby League. Didn't work,he still got a two game ban.
He was in the bar afterwards and settled for plain old Mr. Davies. I bet he did have a first name, but it wasn't for the likes for me which is as it should be.
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posted on 10/8/11
Just to say the tackle last night on Mason should of been a straight red, same as the tackle on Billy. Both feet off the floor is a sending off, a tackle from behind with both feet off the ground is not only a sending off offence its possibly a career ending one.
Must say something about last night, if Bennett wasnt such a good jumper, he would of been taken of on two stretchers as some off the tackles were, lets say, wild, for want of a better word. Had the ref got his card out for these tackles, Mason would probably be playing on Saturday instead of being out for 4/6 weeks.
posted on 10/8/11
I'm going for Dunk not even being in their squad when they play the return fixure at the Keepmoat
I see one of their players was tackled from behind last night in their match against Gillingham and they're in uproar because the lad who did it only got a yellow. And most of their fans think Buckley dived for the penalty that won them the game.
posted on 10/8/11
The more possession a side has the more tackles it will have to endure. Coming up against teams with a less sophisticated approach carries and will continue to carry added risk of injury. Naylor and Spurr were exceptions to the DRFC norm on day1 and that is embarrassing, but apart from that, in general, our style is well known in the division.
We cannot afford to lose players at this rate and it would be a shame if they were forced into abandoning skill out of fear.
I have never refereed, but I do believe that persistent foul play is a yellow card offence and a series of mistimed or over-exuberant unsuccessful tackles, even if no injuries are caused, rightly warrants such punishment.
I somehow feel that if we were a PL side we would get better "protection". SOD has fergursonised his comments a little and they will not go unnoticed amongst referees or even opposing managers; it's a shame we had to suffer 3 serious injuries and a huge blow to our season's hopes before there is even a chance that our players will get a fair deal.
posted on 10/8/11
Hi Alex - I saw the tackle live on TV with 3 replays. I thought yellow at the time. Naylors tackle that he got booked for looked a lot worse from my seat.
That's the problem. Its opinion / interpretation. One ref's red is another ref's yellow. Its actually part of what makes football so intriguing. If they were all black and white what would we talk about in the pub afterwards?
Agree with Bally (see, it does happen) I would love to see refs behaving more like rugby referees. I'll never forget getting a lecture from a rugby referee because I called him "ref" and not "sir". It woke me up I can tell you!
I would still like to see more use of video evidence.
The main way that you would stop these tackles (whether we disagree on yellow or red, we agree they need to be stopped) is to punish the perpetrators.
What I would do is have expontential bans. If a player is banned for the first time in his career, he gets a one match ban. The second ban of his career gets a two match ban. Then 4, 8, 16 etc. If a player insists on playing dirty, he's going to end up not playing at all.
I'd also suggest that reforming (i.e. good discipline) allows the player to come back down a scale. So if a player who is looking at a 16 match ban for the next time he gets banned keeps his yellow card-count under 3 for a season, his next potential ban will reduce to 8 matches.
The potential ban will effect their earning potential and that should persuade them to tackle fairly.
posted on 10/8/11
Yes Fuzzy, and when you bought him a drink in the bar it was still Sir wasn't it, nothing wrong with that. Footballers cannot understand that you would buy a referree a pint after a game and sit and discuss the game more friendly than for 80 mins, ah those days were excellent.
posted on 11/8/11
Totally agree ionly.
When I was at Hunslet we had a sixteen year old Academy lad up before the disciplinary committee. He had been sent off for telling the ref to "f... off".
We were asked to supply a defence for the lad. Our coach, Steve Ferris, told the committe that the lad did at least say "f... off SIR," which is the correct way to do it in Rugby League. Didn't work,he still got a two game ban.
posted on 11/8/11
He was in the bar afterwards and settled for plain old Mr. Davies. I bet he did have a first name, but it wasn't for the likes for me which is as it should be.
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