United need one world class player to be an exceptional team.
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False. We need a top class left back, top class left winger & at least 2 top class central players to be an exceptional (ours in 07-08, Barcelona, Munich in relent time) team.
Artur
Had Nani not been wrongly sent off we may very well have made it at least to the semi finals.
Rob
In an ideal world I would love to have an actual left winger, who that is I don't really know. That would then allow Kagawa to play centrally who although still has much to prove is a brilliant player IF used properly.
If we ended up with Baines I'd be happy though, he's a great player with a good attitude and it would give us an extra dimension on the left where he could combine with Kagawa.
For me the player I would love to see and who I think would really improve us is Modric. Answering KM's hypothetical question, yes I probably would, those 2 would be brilliant for us and allow Kagawa to work centrally.
False. We need a top class left back, top class left winger & at least 2 top class central players to be an exceptional (ours in 07-08, Barcelona, Munich in relent time) team.
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We were world class in 07-08? I dont think so... we have a great defence and attack, but our midfield was still a liability, covered up by Ronaldos goals. We were fortunate to win the champions league that year... stands out teams in recent years have been Bayern and Barcelona.
We were world class in 07-08? I dont think so... we have a great defence and attack, but our midfield was still a liability
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Sorry, wtf?!
The midfield was not a liability, he said 'exceptional' and I would agree with that, the team in 2008 had quality all the way through. The best CB pairing in the world, the best LB in the world, one of the best GK in the world, Scholes, Hargreaves and Carrick in the middle all very good players, and an attack of Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney.
Yes. Either way we were far better in 07-08 then we are now. I don't even think we are better than Atletico Madrids etc these days.
Plus we are about to lord our marquee player for 2 midtable team players.
Plus we played far better football back then than we do now & a player here and there won't change much.
Midfield a liability in 2008? You must be joking?! Carrick, Hargreaves, a still working Scholes, a fit Fletcher and Anderson who was good in his first season.
Mu82
Agreed. I rate Fellaini and I think he and Carrick will form a pretty tasty base for the front 4 to work off but ideally (even more than Fabregas) i'd have Modric and Carrick together.
Modric is so good with the ball under pressure and is also a very good passer and mover too.
It baffles me when people don't rate him. It really does.
Not a lot of people usually agree, but I've always thought that Paul Scholes was at his best from 2006-08.
Bloodred
I know what you mean. I felt that when he came back from his eye 'injury' he was a very fresh and driven player.
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The midfield was not a liability, he said 'exceptional' and I would agree with that, the team in 2008 had quality all the way through. The best CB pairing in the world, the best LB in the world, one of the best GK in the world, Scholes, Hargreaves and Carrick in the middle all very good players, and an attack of Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney.
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Scholes and Carrick were nothing special, Hargreaves was hardworking, but wouldn't call any of them world class... I remember numerous games where our midfield was overrun but Ronaldo would bag us a winner against run of play.
Scholes and Carrick were nothing special
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Please just stop now.
We don't need 1 player. We need at least 2-3 first team players to start challenging for Europe & play good football.
Scholes and Carrick were nothing special
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Please just stop now.
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lol... grow up, you dont have to kiss the ass of everyone of our players.
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 50 seconds ago
Scholes and Carrick were nothing special
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Please just stop now.
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Please, don't stop. You are a comedy genius.
That robb guy is our resident tool.
We tried and failed to sign Fabregas so who else is there? People keep naming the likes of Gundongan but it's cringe worthy how many times it has to be pointed out that he's simply not available.
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Do you want a list?
Gustavo - Better player than Fellaini and only cost Wolfsburg £17m, only a few months difference in age.
Paulinho - Like Gustavo was available for £17m and we just ignored him.
Marchisio - Said this when linked to United: "You never know what will happen in football. I would not be the first player to leave his boyhood club." Would cost a similar amount to Fellaini. The amount of top class CM's Juve have would mean he would be available.
Kondogbia - Just 20 years old, quality last year, will only improve. Release clause thought to be around £14m.
Koke - Highly regarded at Athletico, would probably cost a fair bit but another top class young player.
Vidal - One of the best midfielders in the world, would probably take a massive bid for him.
Then there's other players like Morgan Schniederlin (sp?) who would be better options than Fellaini.
My point is, there's plenty of players out there who are well within our price range. All of them are quite feasible targets (bar probably Vidal).
comment by Wayne and Robin...... (U17937)
posted 4 minutes ago
That robb guy is our resident tool.
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I think far more people would hand that title to yourself.
This is true.
At least most of Robb's claims have some basis in reality...
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Wayne and Robin...... (U17937)
posted 4 minutes ago
That robb guy is our resident tool.
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I think far more people would hand that title to yourself.
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I certainly would.
That's damning testimony indeed, VC.
Jay
Robb is just an attention seeker. W&R is just a complete and utter di ckhead.
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posted on 23/8/13
United need one world class player to be an exceptional team.
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False. We need a top class left back, top class left winger & at least 2 top class central players to be an exceptional (ours in 07-08, Barcelona, Munich in relent time) team.
posted on 23/8/13
Artur
Had Nani not been wrongly sent off we may very well have made it at least to the semi finals.
posted on 23/8/13
Rob
In an ideal world I would love to have an actual left winger, who that is I don't really know. That would then allow Kagawa to play centrally who although still has much to prove is a brilliant player IF used properly.
If we ended up with Baines I'd be happy though, he's a great player with a good attitude and it would give us an extra dimension on the left where he could combine with Kagawa.
For me the player I would love to see and who I think would really improve us is Modric. Answering KM's hypothetical question, yes I probably would, those 2 would be brilliant for us and allow Kagawa to work centrally.
posted on 23/8/13
False. We need a top class left back, top class left winger & at least 2 top class central players to be an exceptional (ours in 07-08, Barcelona, Munich in relent time) team.
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We were world class in 07-08? I dont think so... we have a great defence and attack, but our midfield was still a liability, covered up by Ronaldos goals. We were fortunate to win the champions league that year... stands out teams in recent years have been Bayern and Barcelona.
posted on 23/8/13
We were world class in 07-08? I dont think so... we have a great defence and attack, but our midfield was still a liability
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Sorry, wtf?!
posted on 23/8/13
The midfield was not a liability, he said 'exceptional' and I would agree with that, the team in 2008 had quality all the way through. The best CB pairing in the world, the best LB in the world, one of the best GK in the world, Scholes, Hargreaves and Carrick in the middle all very good players, and an attack of Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney.
posted on 23/8/13
Yes. Either way we were far better in 07-08 then we are now. I don't even think we are better than Atletico Madrids etc these days.
Plus we are about to lord our marquee player for 2 midtable team players.
Plus we played far better football back then than we do now & a player here and there won't change much.
posted on 23/8/13
Midfield a liability in 2008? You must be joking?! Carrick, Hargreaves, a still working Scholes, a fit Fletcher and Anderson who was good in his first season.
posted on 23/8/13
Mu82
Agreed. I rate Fellaini and I think he and Carrick will form a pretty tasty base for the front 4 to work off but ideally (even more than Fabregas) i'd have Modric and Carrick together.
Modric is so good with the ball under pressure and is also a very good passer and mover too.
It baffles me when people don't rate him. It really does.
posted on 23/8/13
Not a lot of people usually agree, but I've always thought that Paul Scholes was at his best from 2006-08.
posted on 23/8/13
Bloodred
I know what you mean. I felt that when he came back from his eye 'injury' he was a very fresh and driven player.
posted on 23/8/13
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posted on 23/8/13
The midfield was not a liability, he said 'exceptional' and I would agree with that, the team in 2008 had quality all the way through. The best CB pairing in the world, the best LB in the world, one of the best GK in the world, Scholes, Hargreaves and Carrick in the middle all very good players, and an attack of Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney.
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Scholes and Carrick were nothing special, Hargreaves was hardworking, but wouldn't call any of them world class... I remember numerous games where our midfield was overrun but Ronaldo would bag us a winner against run of play.
posted on 23/8/13
Scholes and Carrick were nothing special
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Please just stop now.
posted on 23/8/13
We don't need 1 player. We need at least 2-3 first team players to start challenging for Europe & play good football.
posted on 23/8/13
Scholes and Carrick were nothing special
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Please just stop now.
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lol... grow up, you dont have to kiss the ass of everyone of our players.
posted on 23/8/13
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 50 seconds ago
Scholes and Carrick were nothing special
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Please just stop now.
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Please, don't stop. You are a comedy genius.
posted on 23/8/13
That robb guy is our resident tool.
posted on 23/8/13
We tried and failed to sign Fabregas so who else is there? People keep naming the likes of Gundongan but it's cringe worthy how many times it has to be pointed out that he's simply not available.
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Do you want a list?
Gustavo - Better player than Fellaini and only cost Wolfsburg £17m, only a few months difference in age.
Paulinho - Like Gustavo was available for £17m and we just ignored him.
Marchisio - Said this when linked to United: "You never know what will happen in football. I would not be the first player to leave his boyhood club." Would cost a similar amount to Fellaini. The amount of top class CM's Juve have would mean he would be available.
Kondogbia - Just 20 years old, quality last year, will only improve. Release clause thought to be around £14m.
Koke - Highly regarded at Athletico, would probably cost a fair bit but another top class young player.
Vidal - One of the best midfielders in the world, would probably take a massive bid for him.
Then there's other players like Morgan Schniederlin (sp?) who would be better options than Fellaini.
My point is, there's plenty of players out there who are well within our price range. All of them are quite feasible targets (bar probably Vidal).
posted on 23/8/13
comment by Wayne and Robin...... (U17937)
posted 4 minutes ago
That robb guy is our resident tool.
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I think far more people would hand that title to yourself.
posted on 23/8/13
This is true.
At least most of Robb's claims have some basis in reality...
posted on 23/8/13
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Wayne and Robin...... (U17937)
posted 4 minutes ago
That robb guy is our resident tool.
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I think far more people would hand that title to yourself.
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I certainly would.
posted on 23/8/13
That's damning testimony indeed, VC.
posted on 23/8/13
Jay
Robb is just an attention seeker. W&R is just a complete and utter di ckhead.
posted on 23/8/13
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