The club legally have to name anyone with more than 10% share.

Does it really?

It's the club now, is it?

Not the BOD?

Not me guv, it's all the fault of society.

How many eggs?

KEIOC - 23 percent was sold to BCR Sports in 2006, Robert Earl owns BCR sports, Robert Earl is a director of Everton FC. I don't hold with 99 percent of what Crispy says but in this instance he is right. Look up BCR Sports.

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The thing is though Burgerbuns! BCR are an off shore company with all that entails (as we know). My problem is that dividends appear to be going out but no investment coming back. As for Green, he isn't a director and not even a supporter (Spurs isn't he?), so all these unofficial loans made to his mate can and in all probability do get called in at times of our utmost vulnerability, in that respect our Bill has made some very unsound business decisions. There is some justification for some fans being disillusioned but that does not make them bad supporters of the Team.

CRISPY. Don't go walking on sinking sand. Just a bit of simple advice, but i must admit you are the architect of your own downfall.
Your convoluted arguments and assertions are enough to drive any reasonable, and indeed, half-educated man, around the bend. For the last time folks, try not to rise to the bait after this; just ignore him and leave him to hang his banners out of his bedroom window.

U5282. Earl has invested, presumably millions if he owns 23%.

I think people assume he/they should continue to plough their own money in to the club relentlessly. Would you?

As for dividends, with respect, you're wrong. I've just had a look at the released accounts statements and no dividends have been paid to shareholders for the last 5 years. I stopped looking when I got to 2005 so it may be longer.

And as soon as anything off-shore is mentioned, people assume it's crooked and underhand. The primary reason UK businesses move their interests abroad is for tax purposes. The UK governent force businesses abroad by having some of the highest taxes in the world. If I had interests in the millions, I'd do the same. It may not be best for the UK tax payer, but that's not their main concern.

Do you have any evidence or a link detailing the 'unofficial loans made to his mate' you mention? Would genuinely like to have a look.

I think most people are disillusioned and frustrated, but it helps if we don't assume the worst and jump to conclusions.

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You are corect about dividends, plus the AUDITED accounts are legal documents.

Unless we have had money stolen from the club in 'swag bags' then I cannot see for one moment how these people are corrupt

Do you have any evidence or a link detailing the 'unofficial loans made to his mate' you mention? Would genuinely like to have a look.
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Unofficial to strong a word perhaps, as the loans were above board, however they were interest free and I am sure that any true business people amongst you would not do that without some kind of strings attached, I know I never have.

Unofficial to strong a word perhaps, as the loans were above board, however they were interest free and I am sure that any true business people amongst you would not do that without some kind of strings attached, I know I never have.

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Lot of assumptions here.

Assumption is the mother of all f uck ups.

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Unofficial to strong a word perhaps, as the loans were above board, however they were interest free and I am sure that any true business people amongst you would not do that without some kind of strings attached, I know I never have.
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I'm not sure which loans you mean. Do you have a link to this info or is it rumour?

If they do exist, who borrowed from who?

If it helps, zero interest loans are far from uncommon, especially between a company and its employees/directors. It's considered a benefit.

And the lendee might get it interest free from the lender, but they still have to pay tax on it i.e the official rate determined by the treasury, so it's not really interest free, just cheaper borrowing. The tax man will always get theirs.

As for 'strings', you make it sound seedy and underhand. It's business. Do you think the Everton board is the only board in the world, football or otherwise, to look after their own where they can?

I bet people would be happier with full interest loans like Learner does at Villa?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIuIIqbyEIU

Beware from whom you borrow

Are we Borrowers now?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Borrowers_ver1.jpg/220px-Borrowers_ver1.jpg

Maybe they could tie Bill into a new deal?

New deal. Poker or bridge?

What's the ante?

Ante? Thats my Mum's sister, what does she have to do with the club?

Ah, that explains everything, mon frere!