op get ready for the anti moyes brigade
We won't be winning it this year. 3 defeats already so we need to amass no more than 2-3 more defeats between now and may.
BUT we shouldn't be too far away as there's not a single outstanding team this year. Instead there's 5 or 6 fairly even teams.
There are also still some big issues at United that need sorting. I wasn't that impressed with us yesterday, Januzaj and Carrick aside.
i have been saying this for ages , you can only judge at the end of the season.
It's far too early to tell how the league is going to go. Obviously getting the win on Saturday was important, but we need to go on a winning run fairly soon, and with two home games to come after the international break, now is a good opportunity to do that.
I don't particularly worry about the points difference at the top yet, but I think that we need to get back into a winning mentality, regardless of how the other teams are doing.
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
All it takes is a couple of draws between Arsenal, Chelsea and City when they play each other and we are right back in the mix.
Unsurprisingly, the more stable teams made the better starts, but i have no doubt that UTD, City and Chelsea will put runs together at some point, this season.
If we don't... I'll join W&R on the anti-Moyes brigade.... the squad is just too good to finish out of the top 4.
we are struggling but if we can get on a good run of results and be in the top 6 by christmas then we should be ok
hopefully in january we add 2 or 3 players. Coentrao and a CB would be nicely. Not sure if we will go back for herrera though
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We struggled against worse opposition than that during the Ronaldo and Tevez era.
And how are they the "worst" team in the league? I hope your not judging it on league standing at the beginning of a season?
Because that would mean Arsenal and Spurs are the best teams in the league.
And how are they the "worst" team in the league? I hope your not judging it on league standing at the beginning of a season?
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i do think they are to be honest, they dont have any quality in the squad at all
And how are they the "worst" team in the league? I hope your not judging it on league standing at the beginning of a season?
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i do think they are to be honest, they dont have any quality in the squad at all
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I think stoke, crystal palace and Cradiff are just as bad. I think they would defo have clocked up more points if it wasn't for Di Canio
comment by Wayne and Robin. Get rid of Young, Giggs, Welb... (U17937)
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We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We have been beaten in the past by teams that were eventually relegated that same season
W+R - can't post articles I the united board -a team he supports..
Says it all complete mug!
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 2 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
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You can blame david moyes on that one
comment by blabla (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 2 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
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You can blame david moyes on that one
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that was the league cup though
comment by Ad-nan bread (U11386)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by blabla (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 2 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
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You can blame david moyes on that one
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that was the league cup though
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So what?
Haven't read the replies but the obvious retort is "what constitutes an easy game?" We lost at home to West Brom the following week. We play Southampton at home in our next game. Every single indicator in terms of form, their defence and our weaknesses in creativity suggest that we won't be victorious. Let's not rewrite fixture lists and talk about winnable games. If we weren't man united we would not be favourites with any bookie going into our next fixture. Win that and I will say we're moving in the right direction.
Haven't read the replies but the obvious retort is "what constitutes an easy game?" We lost at home to West Brom the following week. We play Southampton at home in our next game. Every single indicator in terms of form, their defence and our weaknesses in creativity suggest that we won't be victorious. Let's not rewrite fixture lists and talk about winnable games. If we weren't man united we would not be favourites with any bookie going into our next fixture. Win that and I will say we're moving in the right direction.
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All the games we play will be hard but playing anybody outside Chelsea, City, pool and Arsenal constitutes an easier game.
"Imagine if we had lost that City game some time in february and had an easier fixture replacing the one we actually played. We would more than likely be 4 points off top."
Sorry but this first paragraph very clearly doesn't sound much suggest that some games are easier than others as suggest that we had played anyone other than City that match, we would be 3 points better off. There is very little to support that viewpoint.
"Imagine if we had lost that City game some time in february and had an easier fixture replacing the one we actually played. We would more than likely be 4 points off top."
Sorry but this first paragraph very clearly doesn't sound much suggest that some games are easier than others as suggest that we had played anyone other than City that match, we would be 3 points better off. There is very little to support that viewpoint.
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How did you translate that as 'anyone other' ?
The key word was easier, I would assume that most people that read that would have teams that finished below top 5 or 6 last season, popping into there heads.
I would assume that suggesting that had we played anyone else other than City in that run of games, we would be 3 points better off. I would assume that is entirely presumptuous. Particularly that our next match is at home to Southampton, a team who are superior to a West Brom team we lost to in our last home match.
Which is why I suggested you should reassess your viewpoint on our season so far after we play that match. I just don't like people trying to pull positive positions from nowhere. Because people who produce negatives with substance (which your article lacks) get ripped to shreds. We are not in 4 points off the top, we are 7. And that would be the case on playing any number of teams, not just those we have played.
Basically, given that we lost to West Brom in our next game, it follows that an "easier" game must be easier than West Brom at home. Sorry, but we will play infinitely more difficult games than that. So your article turns into a pipedream.
merry why are you on such a downer ? take a chill pill mate, it will all come right, trust me.
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posted on 6/10/13
op get ready for the anti moyes brigade
posted on 6/10/13
We won't be winning it this year. 3 defeats already so we need to amass no more than 2-3 more defeats between now and may.
BUT we shouldn't be too far away as there's not a single outstanding team this year. Instead there's 5 or 6 fairly even teams.
There are also still some big issues at United that need sorting. I wasn't that impressed with us yesterday, Januzaj and Carrick aside.
posted on 6/10/13
i have been saying this for ages , you can only judge at the end of the season.
posted on 6/10/13
It's far too early to tell how the league is going to go. Obviously getting the win on Saturday was important, but we need to go on a winning run fairly soon, and with two home games to come after the international break, now is a good opportunity to do that.
I don't particularly worry about the points difference at the top yet, but I think that we need to get back into a winning mentality, regardless of how the other teams are doing.
posted on 6/10/13
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
posted on 6/10/13
All it takes is a couple of draws between Arsenal, Chelsea and City when they play each other and we are right back in the mix.
Unsurprisingly, the more stable teams made the better starts, but i have no doubt that UTD, City and Chelsea will put runs together at some point, this season.
If we don't... I'll join W&R on the anti-Moyes brigade.... the squad is just too good to finish out of the top 4.
posted on 6/10/13
we are struggling but if we can get on a good run of results and be in the top 6 by christmas then we should be ok
hopefully in january we add 2 or 3 players. Coentrao and a CB would be nicely. Not sure if we will go back for herrera though
posted on 6/10/13
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We struggled against worse opposition than that during the Ronaldo and Tevez era.
And how are they the "worst" team in the league? I hope your not judging it on league standing at the beginning of a season?
Because that would mean Arsenal and Spurs are the best teams in the league.
posted on 6/10/13
And how are they the "worst" team in the league? I hope your not judging it on league standing at the beginning of a season?
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i do think they are to be honest, they dont have any quality in the squad at all
posted on 6/10/13
And how are they the "worst" team in the league? I hope your not judging it on league standing at the beginning of a season?
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i do think they are to be honest, they dont have any quality in the squad at all
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I think stoke, crystal palace and Cradiff are just as bad. I think they would defo have clocked up more points if it wasn't for Di Canio
posted on 6/10/13
comment by Wayne and Robin. Get rid of Young, Giggs, Welb... (U17937)
posted 8 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We have been beaten in the past by teams that were eventually relegated that same season
posted on 6/10/13
W+R - can't post articles I the united board -a team he supports..
Says it all complete mug!
posted on 6/10/13
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
posted on 6/10/13
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 2 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
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You can blame david moyes on that one
posted on 6/10/13
comment by blabla (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 2 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
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You can blame david moyes on that one
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that was the league cup though
posted on 6/10/13
comment by Ad-nan bread (U11386)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by blabla (U11635)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)
posted 2 minutes ago
We facking struggled against the worst team in the league
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We once lost to Southend 1-0, when we had Ronaldo and Rooney on the pitch while Sir Alex was our Manager. They're not even in our league!
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You can blame david moyes on that one
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that was the league cup though
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So what?
posted on 6/10/13
Haven't read the replies but the obvious retort is "what constitutes an easy game?" We lost at home to West Brom the following week. We play Southampton at home in our next game. Every single indicator in terms of form, their defence and our weaknesses in creativity suggest that we won't be victorious. Let's not rewrite fixture lists and talk about winnable games. If we weren't man united we would not be favourites with any bookie going into our next fixture. Win that and I will say we're moving in the right direction.
posted on 6/10/13
Haven't read the replies but the obvious retort is "what constitutes an easy game?" We lost at home to West Brom the following week. We play Southampton at home in our next game. Every single indicator in terms of form, their defence and our weaknesses in creativity suggest that we won't be victorious. Let's not rewrite fixture lists and talk about winnable games. If we weren't man united we would not be favourites with any bookie going into our next fixture. Win that and I will say we're moving in the right direction.
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All the games we play will be hard but playing anybody outside Chelsea, City, pool and Arsenal constitutes an easier game.
posted on 6/10/13
"Imagine if we had lost that City game some time in february and had an easier fixture replacing the one we actually played. We would more than likely be 4 points off top."
Sorry but this first paragraph very clearly doesn't sound much suggest that some games are easier than others as suggest that we had played anyone other than City that match, we would be 3 points better off. There is very little to support that viewpoint.
posted on 6/10/13
"Imagine if we had lost that City game some time in february and had an easier fixture replacing the one we actually played. We would more than likely be 4 points off top."
Sorry but this first paragraph very clearly doesn't sound much suggest that some games are easier than others as suggest that we had played anyone other than City that match, we would be 3 points better off. There is very little to support that viewpoint.
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How did you translate that as 'anyone other' ?
The key word was easier, I would assume that most people that read that would have teams that finished below top 5 or 6 last season, popping into there heads.
posted on 6/10/13
I would assume that suggesting that had we played anyone else other than City in that run of games, we would be 3 points better off. I would assume that is entirely presumptuous. Particularly that our next match is at home to Southampton, a team who are superior to a West Brom team we lost to in our last home match.
Which is why I suggested you should reassess your viewpoint on our season so far after we play that match. I just don't like people trying to pull positive positions from nowhere. Because people who produce negatives with substance (which your article lacks) get ripped to shreds. We are not in 4 points off the top, we are 7. And that would be the case on playing any number of teams, not just those we have played.
posted on 6/10/13
Basically, given that we lost to West Brom in our next game, it follows that an "easier" game must be easier than West Brom at home. Sorry, but we will play infinitely more difficult games than that. So your article turns into a pipedream.
posted on 6/10/13
merry why are you on such a downer ? take a chill pill mate, it will all come right, trust me.
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