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Do we need start playing a 4-4-2 again?

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posted on 6/10/13

Southampton mate, not Sunderland

posted on 6/10/13

AVB has two weeks to "work things out". Surely the squad has enough quality to be rotated effectively to deal with the days opponents. Width for bus parking sides and solid midfield for the better teams.

posted on 6/10/13

"You clearly have no idea what I think. 2 poachers won't work together and 2 strikers playing right up against defenders won't work either. They need to have some varying attributes. You've watched football before?"
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A rather uneducated comment. Where on earth did the idea of 4-4-2 come from? If according to you it can't be played?
I suppose you've never seen Torres and Ito'o or Demba Ba playing together, on the same pitch at the same time?
Perhaps you've never seen Rooney and Welbeck and Van Persie playing together?

It is you who haven't seen much football, mate.
get a life.

posted on 6/10/13

Yes, Southampton ... even worse!

posted on 6/10/13

A rather uneducated comment. Where on earth did the idea of 4-4-2 come from? If according to you it can't be played?
I suppose you've never seen Torres and Ito'o or Demba Ba playing together, on the same pitch at the same time?
Perhaps you've never seen Rooney and Welbeck and Van Persie playing together?

It is you who haven't seen much football, mate.
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Please repost where I said it could "never be played" and then come back to me

Rooney, welbeck and RVP have different attributes which make them compatible. You've never noticed that Rooney drops deeper as the number 10, welbeck runs the channels and RVP works nearer/inside the box?

Seeing as eto'o joined in the summer he's rarely played together with either of them, and on the rare occasions Torres has played at the same time as ba, Torres has been out wide. As I said, repost where I said it could never be played or just call it a night.

posted on 6/10/13

Any system is as good as the quality of players in the team. You can change the system all you want but unless you have the players to implement it you will still lose.

comment by Analog (U17200)

posted on 6/10/13

Edin, yeah played up top on his own mostly

posted on 6/10/13

you seem to be suffering from infantile Alzheimer's.
This is what you said:

"You clearly have no idea what I think. 2 poachers won't work together and 2 strikers playing right up against defenders won't work either. They need to have some varying attributes. You've watched football before?"

Now then .... you've never seen Soldado move away from defenders? Or Defoe?
Good grief ... that's why we have a coach! Wot do you think AVB is supposed to do?

posted on 7/10/13

I am surprised nobody has commented on the performances from our full backs ?

comment by asf (U15962)

posted on 7/10/13

Grand, they were pretty shiite

posted on 7/10/13

A clearly unfit and struggling right back and a scared to attack very right footed left back when width was required today (only part of today's shortcomings).

posted on 7/10/13

As you say "only part of todays shortcomings".
The question I can't find anyone who knows the answer is:
"What was AVB thinking?"

posted on 7/10/13

you seem to be suffering from infantile Alzheimer's.
This is what you said:

"You clearly have no idea what I think. 2 poachers won't work together and 2 strikers playing right up against defenders won't work either. They need to have some varying attributes. You've watched football before?"
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Where are these famous words such as "never" coming from? Still can't see where I've said that. Or have you just jumped to your own conclusion on that one? Seriously not hard to recognise different attributes in a striker and be able to see what a striker is good at and what they're not, what movements they make and which they don't.

comment by HRH (U15236)

posted on 7/10/13

There's no reason Soldado and Defoe couldn't play together. Not an ideal partnership by any means, but workable against a side set up to defend.

It's vital you get your midfield right though. No point in throwing Lamela and Siggy in there too and expecting it to work.

Yesterday it would have meant a midfield and strikers like this:

Eriksen* Sandro Paulinho** Townsend

.............Defoe Soldado

*or Holtby/Lamela
** or Dembele

We had either a right-footed LB yesterday or a CB there. Townsend would have to go left.

The player at RM is always going to drift inside, and Walker on the overlap provides your width.

A player like Sandro would need to be in there. A firefighter, going wherever he needs to when gaps appear. Disciplined.

Defoe having to work that right side.



We essentially played like this for the majority of 09/10, but with the sides flipped.

Lennon...Palacios...Hudd...Modric/Niko

....................Defoe.....Pav/Crouch

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