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Ferguson messed up but Pogba was also to blame for not being patient.

Januzaj is showing that if you're good enough, you're old enough and Moyes deserves credit for giving him a chance during a period where he is under so much pressure.

Ferguson was a great manager but towards the end of his career he became very cautious and I feel it cost us Pogba. He's gone though so not much we can do now, lets just hope we keep hold of Januzaj.

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Tomatoes

You're living in a dreamworld. I guarantee that you would have kept Morrison no matter how much he was pisssing away his career.

Ferguson messed up but Pogba was also to blame for not being patient.
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cant blame him for wanting to play football and hes getting that at juventus,

Redastomatoes

Disagree, you need to show respect, whoever you are. Football's already full of too many horrible egotistical millionaire babies, not sure how much more I could take.

I do not effing care about attitude
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this. many top players have bad attitudes and it doesnt matter

Ad-nan bread

I think a balance is needed. Ferguson should have probably trusted Pogba more and given him more games but at the same time Pogba should listen and respect Ferguson's decision even if he disagrees, he was the manager.

Pogba was 18. Had he signed that contract I bet he would suddenly have played a lot more the following season.

People make out like he was passed over for games countless times. He was holding United to ransom so of course Sir Alex wasn't rewarding him with game time.

With Pogba it was a case of the tail wagging the dog.

many top players have bad attitudes and it doesnt matter

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Oh, but yes it does.

comment by Darkphoenix (U11503)

posted 4 minutes ago

Like you said, it had to be his attitude. The fact that Pogba hasn't shut up about his exit from United shows that he is a bit mouthy.
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I don't think there's been an ex-Manchester United player that talks so much about us. He barely even played for us!

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I think you will find that it was an interview and he was responding to a question, which quite frankly is so important because as you pointed out, the pogba issue was an important one.

Now it would be better in your head that he just went up and picked up a mic and just started spewing out reasonable comments on the issue but that is not the case. Anybody with a brain know for the rest of his career, the biggest question is going to be "how was one of the biggest clubs and one of the greatest manager so blinkered, they let you go" and I am sure he will answer with the same restraint and reason he has displayed in every interview (there are videos).

But lets not allow that spoil your own story in your head.

Tomatoes

I look forward to seeing your reaction to any revelations Sir Alex has about Pogba in his book.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)

posted 3 minutes ago

Redastomatoes

Disagree, you need to show respect, whoever you are. Football's already full of too many horrible egotistical millionaire babies, not sure how much more I could take.

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Hmm... like I said, we all stomached it when it was bringing us CL titles, with ronaldo's growing ever stronger despite his lengthy contract with us.

Also to a lesser (or greater) extent, rooney has been insulting and patronizing to the club and because he has 200 goals, macca and co willingly forgive him, a player who cannot come out and tweet a simple "I want to stay at united"

For attitude to influence your choice of player means you are attached to something else other than the club. In todays football world, that is foolish because money rules the game, rightly or wrongly. You buy the players, you get them to play you sell them if they do not play well. They don't have to respect anybody, just do a job. Look at suarez and liverpool. They would like to you to think they are principled fans when tbh they just want their team to do well and keeping their best player helps that. So his attitude does not matter anymore. His performances does.

The only question that needs to be asked is "os he good enough"

When you're an 18 year old guy who has done nothing in football you can't get away with the same things that other players have.

Unless you're really comparing Pogba of 2012 to Ronaldo?

exactly, you wouldnt reject messi just because he has a shittt attitude would you

Redastomatoes

It's not an important one. He's not the first great talent to leave a club, yet they are people on here like you who of course have a brain, will follow his whole career barking on about how we as a club let him go.

I think everyone on here has established:

1. Sir Alex didn't think he was ready and decided not to play him
2. In hindisght, Sir Alex was wrong and it was a mistake from him.

Time to move on!

As for the interviewers keep asking him questions, is there a reason they keep asking Pogba questions regarding this? Is he unable to just say "It didn't work out for me" and leave it as that? They ask him these questions because they know he'll give them an answer worth typing.

comment by Ad-nan bread (U11386)
posted 2 minutes ago
exactly, you wouldnt reject messi just because he has a shittt attitude would you
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If he was an 18 year old fresh out of the reserves you might. Respect is a massive part of the game, especially when you're as young as Pogba was.

Who the hell was he to demand game time?

comment by Robb - oh no you di'nt! (U9808)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ad-nan bread (U11386)
posted 2 minutes ago
exactly, you wouldnt reject messi just because he has a shittt attitude would you
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If he was an 18 year old fresh out of the reserves you might. Respect is a massive part of the game, especially when you're as young as Pogba was.

Who the hell was he to demand game time?
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he clearly felt that he should of been getting chances in the first time and when he cant get in ahead of rafael in midfield then he had to leave really, i would be pissssed off

Having the right attitude is a fundamental part of our clubs ethos. Not to sound sanctimonious, but I've always prided myself in the fact that United, both as a club and as it's constituent staff (from players, to backroom staff to the board), generally conduct themselves in the right manner. It's what I believe sets us apart from the rest in this country. We don't take it too far like Barcelona (mes qu'un club is cringe-worthy), but I'd like to think our players, as footballers go, lie on the positive side of the attitude spectrum.
I also believe that our down-to-earth attitude has been a key part of our success in recent years. There have been very few players at our club who's success has got to their heads and who've rested on their laurels. When that has happened, they've usually been moved on, much to SAF's credit. I have no regrets over the sale of Pogba, because for all his talent, his attitude was clearly poor.

As for the interviewers keep asking him questions, is there a reason they keep asking Pogba questions regarding this? Is he unable to just say "It didn't work out for me" and leave it as that? They ask him these questions because they know he'll give them an answer worth typing.

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Why should he say that? You now fault him for saying the truth because it does not please you? What if he stayed and 2 years later he was a massive star for us and they asked him "why did you stay even when Juve wanted you badly?" I am sure you would want an answer like " because I love the fans and fergie is like a father bla bla". I am sure if he said "because it worked out for me" that would cause an uproar.

You do not like his answer because its not what you want to hear. But the truth is freeing and his comments will help the new management in motivating them never to ignore our youngsters in that manner again. as for your comments

"I think everyone on here has established:

1. Sir Alex didn't think he was ready and decided not to play him
2. In hindisght, Sir Alex was wrong and it was a mistake from him.

Time to move on!"

I agree completely. The people who refuse to move on are those who keep acting like it never happened and when someone talks about it act like what we did was justifiable. As long as that point of view exist, I will make my point known.

Captain Plastic

comment by Robb - oh no you di'nt! (U9808)
posted 43 seconds ago
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Living up to my label

I will have to disagree with those who accuse him of been obsessed with utd; the lad was asked a question; what is he going to say; its not like he called a press conference; yes the rave about him has been excessive here and in some of the press but the simple reasons are; as already stated; it the area we have a clear deficiency and we had him; the lad has been bloody good; unbeliavble to be honest for his age plays like a seasoned footballer; he led the france youth team to the championship; scores screamers; so the press and a lot of people are always going to reference him and his short career at utd; did saf get it wrong; something tells me yet.
also what I dont get is why people here are quick to say united do not buy big name players and then we let a talent go; paying him what he is reportedly on at juve is a no brainer; why go out then and pay so much for fellaini; is a he a big name or what; i am left with no doubt that our transfer fund shoudl be better managed under the moyes era

Pure Water

We didn't let him go. Sir Alex has already come out and said that Pogba agreed to join Juventus long before the end of the 11/12 season.

The guy left us rather than us letting him go.