Zlatan is the best striker in football. Still have nightmares when he destroyed us at the San Siro.
You call them nightmares, we call them wet dreams
He's easily better than Rooney and Rvp
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Can you elaborate on this please? When you say ''easily'' better, my interpretation of that is that you are saying he is ''by far'' better than both. I would still disagree. I would argue van Persie has an advantage in terms of his technical skill and quick feet, but Ibra is better in terms of physical strength and power. Ibra's good technically too, his first touch is second to none, but my view is van Persie's technical ability is superior to that of Ibra's. Van Persie's delivery from dead ball situations and passing is better, too. Rooney's got a better pass than Ibra and does more defensive work, but aside from that, I would say Ibra is superior to him in everything else. But not 'easily' ahead.
Sheriff you're such a clown. Clueless idiot and arrogant beyond belief. Never seen someone that claims to be a "fan" but is anti Arsenal and tries to bully his opinions onto others as facts. I remember destroying you after you said Pacquiao dominated Marquez and your anti Mayweather and Pacman fanboy stance. Zlatan's better than Judas but not by much.
Can you elaborate on this please? When you say ''easily'' better, my interpretation of that is that you are saying he is ''by far'' better than both. I would still disagree. I would argue van Persie has an advantage in terms of his technical skill and quick feet, but Ibra is better in terms of physical strength and power. Ibra's good technically too, his first touch is second to none, but my view is van Persie's technical ability is superior to that of Ibra's. Van Persie's delivery from dead ball situations and passing is better, too. Rooney's got a better pass than Ibra and does more defensive work, but aside from that, I would say Ibra is superior to him in everything else. But not 'easily' ahead.
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I don't believe RVP is technically better. Zlatan can do anything RVP can but I've seen him do things I've not seen from RVP. But RVP has a better dead ball delivery. And neither Rooney nor RVP have better passing than Zlatan - no way. Zlatan's vision is fantastic.
I say he's easily ahead of both because on a season by season basis, players like Rooney, RVP, Falcao, Aguero, Torres etc may be as good but on a 10 year career stretch of consistency, he's easily the best striker around.
Is this a joke? RVP technically better than Ibra? Has Samir gone insane.
There is absolutely nothing RVP has over Ibra. Nothing. And as much as I rate Rooney, he's nowhere near the Swede.
Agree with the earlier assertions of him not being fit to lace Ibra's boots.
"Agree !"
Gunnerthru, you think Giroud's better than Ibra so I don't you can be taken seriously on this topic. Sorry.
Fair enough if that's your view, but needless to say, I disagree with it very strongly.
As good as Ibra is, I think his goals at Inter could arguably be dismissed considering the Calciopoli scandal. Van Persie I believe would have had a much improved goalscoring record were it not for his injury woes, but his goals-to-minutes ratio is still excellent. I would also argue that Premier League as a whole is stronger than the leagues Ibra has played in all his career. I think he'd have a good goalscoring record in England. But he's been scoring between 29-35 goals a season the last few seasons and I don't think he'd get as many in the Premier League.
RVP technically better than Ibra? Has Samir gone insane.
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No.
Ibra has a better first touch. That's it.
You don't think Ibra would score 25-35 with lets say City? He could easily do that.
"Ibra has a better first touch. That's it."
What about dribbling, passing, finishing, long range strikes, etc?
Zlatan trumps him in those categories too (when you look at technique).
Well, we'll never find out.
Finishing and long-strikes goes to Ibra. Dribbling and passing goes to van Persie, in my opinion.
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I wouldnt say RVP can dribble with the ball that well
When I think of the phrase 'easily better' I don't see it as 'miles better'. I think of it as there's no way that he isn't. It's not to say that the gap is huge, but it's unmistakable. Like if someone were to say (in 2013 because they're quite closer this year) Messi is easily better than Ronaldo, that's not to say that Messi cleans the floor with Ronaldo, just that there is a significant gap between the 2 to show who is better. But in 2013 I'd say that they're very close. Ronaldo wins the 2013/2014 season so far for sure
Ibra's dribbling is overrated. Although there's no-one better than can hold the ball up though. Unreal strength.
Van Persie's more agile, too. He can turn a defender so quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b817SEd9kc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPs3vHQOFg
I know YouTube videos aren't a great indicator, but look at his passing and skill in those videos. Don't think Ibra's is better.
As good as Ibra is, I think his goals at Inter could arguably be dismissed considering the Calciopoli scandal
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No they can't. Read more on what the scandal was really about. And he's been arguably better and more consistent since the scandal.
Read more on what the scandal was really about.
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Why would I mention it if I didn't know what it was about?
I would also argue that Premier League as a whole is stronger than the leagues Ibra has played in all his career.
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And the ace card has been played
I'm sorry Samir. If anything dribbling's RVP's main weakness.
He is so static it's unreal. He relies more on clever movement and dummies.
Ibra's dribbling is top notch though, on the other hand.
He can skip past players, unlike RVP.
I'd say that RVP's dribbling is slightly 'cleaner' but ibra can dance through defences, even if he does look like a donkey doing it
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Chambers Maybe that's why I don't rate his dribbling. Weird dribbling technique.
I don't even think van Persie's dribbling is that great, but I would still say it's better than Ibra's. Albeit not by much, but still. Agree on van Persie relying more on clever movement and dummies though.
I wouldn't say Ibra skips past players. It's more that they can't handle him physically, so he outmuscles them.
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posted on 24/10/13
Zlatan is the best striker in football. Still have nightmares when he destroyed us at the San Siro.
posted on 24/10/13
You call them nightmares, we call them wet dreams
posted on 24/10/13
He's easily better than Rooney and Rvp
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Can you elaborate on this please? When you say ''easily'' better, my interpretation of that is that you are saying he is ''by far'' better than both. I would still disagree. I would argue van Persie has an advantage in terms of his technical skill and quick feet, but Ibra is better in terms of physical strength and power. Ibra's good technically too, his first touch is second to none, but my view is van Persie's technical ability is superior to that of Ibra's. Van Persie's delivery from dead ball situations and passing is better, too. Rooney's got a better pass than Ibra and does more defensive work, but aside from that, I would say Ibra is superior to him in everything else. But not 'easily' ahead.
posted on 24/10/13
Sheriff you're such a clown. Clueless idiot and arrogant beyond belief. Never seen someone that claims to be a "fan" but is anti Arsenal and tries to bully his opinions onto others as facts. I remember destroying you after you said Pacquiao dominated Marquez and your anti Mayweather and Pacman fanboy stance. Zlatan's better than Judas but not by much.
posted on 24/10/13
Can you elaborate on this please? When you say ''easily'' better, my interpretation of that is that you are saying he is ''by far'' better than both. I would still disagree. I would argue van Persie has an advantage in terms of his technical skill and quick feet, but Ibra is better in terms of physical strength and power. Ibra's good technically too, his first touch is second to none, but my view is van Persie's technical ability is superior to that of Ibra's. Van Persie's delivery from dead ball situations and passing is better, too. Rooney's got a better pass than Ibra and does more defensive work, but aside from that, I would say Ibra is superior to him in everything else. But not 'easily' ahead.
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I don't believe RVP is technically better. Zlatan can do anything RVP can but I've seen him do things I've not seen from RVP. But RVP has a better dead ball delivery. And neither Rooney nor RVP have better passing than Zlatan - no way. Zlatan's vision is fantastic.
I say he's easily ahead of both because on a season by season basis, players like Rooney, RVP, Falcao, Aguero, Torres etc may be as good but on a 10 year career stretch of consistency, he's easily the best striker around.
posted on 24/10/13
Is this a joke? RVP technically better than Ibra? Has Samir gone insane.
There is absolutely nothing RVP has over Ibra. Nothing. And as much as I rate Rooney, he's nowhere near the Swede.
Agree with the earlier assertions of him not being fit to lace Ibra's boots.
posted on 24/10/13
"Agree !"
Gunnerthru, you think Giroud's better than Ibra so I don't you can be taken seriously on this topic. Sorry.
posted on 24/10/13
Fair enough if that's your view, but needless to say, I disagree with it very strongly.
As good as Ibra is, I think his goals at Inter could arguably be dismissed considering the Calciopoli scandal. Van Persie I believe would have had a much improved goalscoring record were it not for his injury woes, but his goals-to-minutes ratio is still excellent. I would also argue that Premier League as a whole is stronger than the leagues Ibra has played in all his career. I think he'd have a good goalscoring record in England. But he's been scoring between 29-35 goals a season the last few seasons and I don't think he'd get as many in the Premier League.
posted on 24/10/13
RVP technically better than Ibra? Has Samir gone insane.
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No.
Ibra has a better first touch. That's it.
posted on 24/10/13
You don't think Ibra would score 25-35 with lets say City? He could easily do that.
posted on 24/10/13
"Ibra has a better first touch. That's it."
What about dribbling, passing, finishing, long range strikes, etc?
Zlatan trumps him in those categories too (when you look at technique).
posted on 24/10/13
Well, we'll never find out.
posted on 24/10/13
Finishing and long-strikes goes to Ibra. Dribbling and passing goes to van Persie, in my opinion.
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posted on 24/10/13
I wouldnt say RVP can dribble with the ball that well
posted on 24/10/13
When I think of the phrase 'easily better' I don't see it as 'miles better'. I think of it as there's no way that he isn't. It's not to say that the gap is huge, but it's unmistakable. Like if someone were to say (in 2013 because they're quite closer this year) Messi is easily better than Ronaldo, that's not to say that Messi cleans the floor with Ronaldo, just that there is a significant gap between the 2 to show who is better. But in 2013 I'd say that they're very close. Ronaldo wins the 2013/2014 season so far for sure
posted on 24/10/13
Ibra's dribbling is overrated. Although there's no-one better than can hold the ball up though. Unreal strength.
Van Persie's more agile, too. He can turn a defender so quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b817SEd9kc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFPs3vHQOFg
I know YouTube videos aren't a great indicator, but look at his passing and skill in those videos. Don't think Ibra's is better.
posted on 24/10/13
As good as Ibra is, I think his goals at Inter could arguably be dismissed considering the Calciopoli scandal
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No they can't. Read more on what the scandal was really about. And he's been arguably better and more consistent since the scandal.
posted on 24/10/13
Read more on what the scandal was really about.
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Why would I mention it if I didn't know what it was about?
posted on 24/10/13
I would also argue that Premier League as a whole is stronger than the leagues Ibra has played in all his career.
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And the ace card has been played
posted on 24/10/13
I'm sorry Samir. If anything dribbling's RVP's main weakness.
He is so static it's unreal. He relies more on clever movement and dummies.
Ibra's dribbling is top notch though, on the other hand.
He can skip past players, unlike RVP.
posted on 24/10/13
I'd say that RVP's dribbling is slightly 'cleaner' but ibra can dance through defences, even if he does look like a donkey doing it
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posted on 24/10/13
Chambers Maybe that's why I don't rate his dribbling. Weird dribbling technique.
I don't even think van Persie's dribbling is that great, but I would still say it's better than Ibra's. Albeit not by much, but still. Agree on van Persie relying more on clever movement and dummies though.
I wouldn't say Ibra skips past players. It's more that they can't handle him physically, so he outmuscles them.
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