Don't think it's got anything to do with mind games. Whilst Wayne Rooney didn't exactly have a terrible year last season, he was nowhere near what we would call his best. He pointed him out on it and with the mixture of not playing Rooney in his favoured position caused this 'rift'. The media of course just blew it out of proportion.
Moyes arriving with new coaches and all, all the players had a fresh start and can begin over.
Well, the main things in the book are apparently about Keane saying team mates weren't good enough (club not showing ambition) and Beckham chasing fame (wanting out, might regret leaving). Both kind of link to Rooney...
One 'fortunate' outcome is Wayne’s praise for Moyes saying his coaching is better. I wonder if this is really what SAF wanted to achieve.
I don't think that was Ferguson's intention, I genuinely think he wasn't happy with Rooney's performances on the field and attitude off it in terms of fitness.
There has been a frosty relation between Rooney and Ferguson ever since 2010 and with Ferguson leaving and us refusing to sell Rooney I guess Rooney eventually saw this as another chance for him, how long that will last I've no idea but for now things look good although there is still room for improvement.
comment by Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
posted 4 minutes ago
One 'fortunate' outcome is Wayne’s praise for Moyes saying his coaching is better. I wonder if this is really what SAF wanted to achieve.
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na doubt it, it was just him sticking to his guns saying that rooney asked him to leave
Brought the book today, fits page I read basically said I should buy his other book
And on the Rooney transfer, nothing has come to light. We knew what the situation was
If Rooney was in this form for the first Madrid game, I think we'd have gone though.
Is that what Ferguson said in the book?
Or your opinion? I'm sure a fit in form Rooney would have increased our chances massively against Real but he was neither fit enough or in good form which IMO was totally his own fault.
No
Wayne's form now is down to the fact he's back happy again and not being fekked about to cover other players who were more inept than him
He and fergie fell out and Rooney is more to blame than fergie is for that but give moyes credit. It isn't just Rooney that looks fitter either
Last night I saw players looking far fitter and hard working than last season
I have to credit moyes for that considering the battering he has received
Whether intentional or not SAF is deflecting/minimising criticism for Moyes, & galvanising his players behind him. Also raising contentious issues about Liverpool, Steven Gerrard in particular, keeps the press on SAF & off Moyes’s back at this difficult time.
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posted on 24/10/13
Don't think it's got anything to do with mind games. Whilst Wayne Rooney didn't exactly have a terrible year last season, he was nowhere near what we would call his best. He pointed him out on it and with the mixture of not playing Rooney in his favoured position caused this 'rift'. The media of course just blew it out of proportion.
Moyes arriving with new coaches and all, all the players had a fresh start and can begin over.
posted on 24/10/13
Well, the main things in the book are apparently about Keane saying team mates weren't good enough (club not showing ambition) and Beckham chasing fame (wanting out, might regret leaving). Both kind of link to Rooney...
posted on 24/10/13
One 'fortunate' outcome is Wayne’s praise for Moyes saying his coaching is better. I wonder if this is really what SAF wanted to achieve.
posted on 24/10/13
I don't think that was Ferguson's intention, I genuinely think he wasn't happy with Rooney's performances on the field and attitude off it in terms of fitness.
There has been a frosty relation between Rooney and Ferguson ever since 2010 and with Ferguson leaving and us refusing to sell Rooney I guess Rooney eventually saw this as another chance for him, how long that will last I've no idea but for now things look good although there is still room for improvement.
posted on 24/10/13
comment by Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
posted 4 minutes ago
One 'fortunate' outcome is Wayne’s praise for Moyes saying his coaching is better. I wonder if this is really what SAF wanted to achieve.
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na doubt it, it was just him sticking to his guns saying that rooney asked him to leave
posted on 24/10/13
Brought the book today, fits page I read basically said I should buy his other book
posted on 24/10/13
And on the Rooney transfer, nothing has come to light. We knew what the situation was
posted on 24/10/13
If Rooney was in this form for the first Madrid game, I think we'd have gone though.
posted on 24/10/13
Is that what Ferguson said in the book?
Or your opinion? I'm sure a fit in form Rooney would have increased our chances massively against Real but he was neither fit enough or in good form which IMO was totally his own fault.
posted on 24/10/13
No
Wayne's form now is down to the fact he's back happy again and not being fekked about to cover other players who were more inept than him
He and fergie fell out and Rooney is more to blame than fergie is for that but give moyes credit. It isn't just Rooney that looks fitter either
Last night I saw players looking far fitter and hard working than last season
I have to credit moyes for that considering the battering he has received
posted on 25/10/13
Whether intentional or not SAF is deflecting/minimising criticism for Moyes, & galvanising his players behind him. Also raising contentious issues about Liverpool, Steven Gerrard in particular, keeps the press on SAF & off Moyes’s back at this difficult time.
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