Then you have idiots like Garth Crooks who want to create racism and hope it occurs.
Mourinho - "The history of football was made equally by many races," he said. "And the black players have a fantastic contribution of what football is.
"You go to the World Cup, the World Cup is the biggest expression of national team competitions - races, people from different parts of the globe, people from every continent. And the black players are very, very important for that.
"Who is more important, the billions of people in love with the game around the world? Or a few thousand that go to football stadiums and have disgraceful behaviour in relation to black players.
"If I was a black player I would say the other billions are much more important, so let's fight the thousands, but let's give to the billions what the billions want. And the billions want the best football and the best football without black players is not the best football, for sure."
Wenger - "I don't know what really happened there, but you cannot tolerate racism of any kind and you have to fight against it. How do you do that?" he said.
"Honestly I believe Uefa is taking action in the right way and to go as extreme as a boycott, it's a bit early to do that because it's not proven what happened. I believe that Russia itself has to fight against that and of course you want everybody to be active on that."
Crooks - "For Wenger to ask for further evidence is extraordinary given the fact that Yaya heard the evidence reported and his club have backed their captain on the night.
"I am equally disappointed with Jose Mourinho's comments, about how he feels that black players should go into a hostile racial environment in order to show them how good they are.
"Now there is a man who has never had to suffer racial abuse.
"I really expected modern managers such as Wenger and Mourinho to support Toure and other Premier League players."
"If that is the best they can say on this issue, I suggest they stick to what they know."
Imbecile.
Are you calling Crooks an imbecile?
I have many years ago been the victim of racism and also physically fought it.
Russia is a racist society and has been for hundreds of years, its in the blood. Furthermore their government promotes intolerance so not sure why anybody is really surprised.
I think its disgusting how they abuse certain players and even worse, UEFA and FIFA do f all. They should adopt a zero tolerance attitude. By not taking the hardest line possible, we are allowing this to manifest and breed.
These racists have no place in our society and if they dont play by the rules, then they should be kicked out.
comment by ValenciaY (U9868)
posted 16 minutes ago
Are you calling Crooks an imbecile?
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Yes, both managers condemned racism and he criticised them for it but unlike you and Crooks thought they'd wait for proof being condemning CSKA fans.
Nothing is in anybody's blood, people are people and it's how the individual is which defines them, not which country they are from.
I'll assume you're Spanish and thus know very well about the issues in Spain regarding racism. It happens in every country only here in the UK, we like to criticise only countries for it more as we can sensationalise it more without people catching on.
what more proof do they want or are expecting?
That it actually happened, not just the player claiming it did. Now I'm not saying Toure would do this as he seems like a good lad but a person could claim it did when it didn't, it would be the first such case. A person could be mistaken in what they heard etc etc.
I've heard from several City fans at the ground saying they heard nothing, the referee apparently heard nothing and CSKA say they heard nothing, so please, let's get some proof first.
ok. well from what i saw and heard, to me, it was quite clearly monkey chants. And if it wasnt where is the explanation from the CSKA fans themselves?
Have you watched the news clip?
I haven't seen the clip. I watched the game but didn't hear monkey chants. CSKA have put out a comment, its fans, like other clubs' fans don't have the medium to do so.
TOOR... If you honestly believe that this country is as violent and intolerant as russia then you really are a bit light in the head.
Getting a couple of people giving you funny looks and throwing a couple of drunken punches is not the same as pummelling someone'ss face into the ground whilst the police intentionally pretend nothing's happening
comment by Brennie Babes (U8994)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
TOOR... If you honestly believe that this country is as violent and intolerant as russia then you really are a bit light in the head.
Getting a couple of people giving you funny looks and throwing a couple of drunken punches is not the same as pummelling someone'ss face into the ground whilst the police intentionally pretend nothing's happening
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If you don't believe that there are just as bad incidents of violence in the UK as Russian then you're an ignorant halfwit.
I've seen people getting kicked in the head here also. I've seen police standing and doing nothing also. Happens every summer here.
Also when I was in Spain, a bouncer called me back as I had my pint in my hand and asked me to pour it into a plastic cup. When I went back to do it, he pulled a telescopic pole out and hit me across the eye, splitting my eye open and guess who watched it? The police. When I went to ask them why they didn't do anything, they looked at me in disgust and called me a drunk English idiot and walked on.
As I said it happens everywhere but people are so easily brainwashed they believe everything they read and because they haven't experienced something for themselves, believe it doesn't happen, as the press tell them so.
I mean if you're so ignorant, I'm sure you can find plenty of videos on Youtube or other such sites of people in the UK being beaten badly but one would think that it's common sense that this happens here. Maybe that's a trait you lack.
tbh toor i wouldn't be surprised if you were just being a drunken brit abroad
Oh look - 7 o'clock news and two British soldiers standing in front of a Union Flag, doing N azi salutes but no no, that'a not possible, that could only happen in Russia, no way could us Brits possibly do that.
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posted on 26/10/13
Then you have idiots like Garth Crooks who want to create racism and hope it occurs.
Mourinho - "The history of football was made equally by many races," he said. "And the black players have a fantastic contribution of what football is.
"You go to the World Cup, the World Cup is the biggest expression of national team competitions - races, people from different parts of the globe, people from every continent. And the black players are very, very important for that.
"Who is more important, the billions of people in love with the game around the world? Or a few thousand that go to football stadiums and have disgraceful behaviour in relation to black players.
"If I was a black player I would say the other billions are much more important, so let's fight the thousands, but let's give to the billions what the billions want. And the billions want the best football and the best football without black players is not the best football, for sure."
Wenger - "I don't know what really happened there, but you cannot tolerate racism of any kind and you have to fight against it. How do you do that?" he said.
"Honestly I believe Uefa is taking action in the right way and to go as extreme as a boycott, it's a bit early to do that because it's not proven what happened. I believe that Russia itself has to fight against that and of course you want everybody to be active on that."
Crooks - "For Wenger to ask for further evidence is extraordinary given the fact that Yaya heard the evidence reported and his club have backed their captain on the night.
"I am equally disappointed with Jose Mourinho's comments, about how he feels that black players should go into a hostile racial environment in order to show them how good they are.
"Now there is a man who has never had to suffer racial abuse.
"I really expected modern managers such as Wenger and Mourinho to support Toure and other Premier League players."
"If that is the best they can say on this issue, I suggest they stick to what they know."
Imbecile.
posted on 26/10/13
Are you calling Crooks an imbecile?
I have many years ago been the victim of racism and also physically fought it.
Russia is a racist society and has been for hundreds of years, its in the blood. Furthermore their government promotes intolerance so not sure why anybody is really surprised.
I think its disgusting how they abuse certain players and even worse, UEFA and FIFA do f all. They should adopt a zero tolerance attitude. By not taking the hardest line possible, we are allowing this to manifest and breed.
These racists have no place in our society and if they dont play by the rules, then they should be kicked out.
posted on 26/10/13
comment by ValenciaY (U9868)
posted 16 minutes ago
Are you calling Crooks an imbecile?
----------------------
Yes, both managers condemned racism and he criticised them for it but unlike you and Crooks thought they'd wait for proof being condemning CSKA fans.
Nothing is in anybody's blood, people are people and it's how the individual is which defines them, not which country they are from.
I'll assume you're Spanish and thus know very well about the issues in Spain regarding racism. It happens in every country only here in the UK, we like to criticise only countries for it more as we can sensationalise it more without people catching on.
posted on 26/10/13
what more proof do they want or are expecting?
posted on 26/10/13
That it actually happened, not just the player claiming it did. Now I'm not saying Toure would do this as he seems like a good lad but a person could claim it did when it didn't, it would be the first such case. A person could be mistaken in what they heard etc etc.
I've heard from several City fans at the ground saying they heard nothing, the referee apparently heard nothing and CSKA say they heard nothing, so please, let's get some proof first.
posted on 26/10/13
ok. well from what i saw and heard, to me, it was quite clearly monkey chants. And if it wasnt where is the explanation from the CSKA fans themselves?
Have you watched the news clip?
posted on 26/10/13
I haven't seen the clip. I watched the game but didn't hear monkey chants. CSKA have put out a comment, its fans, like other clubs' fans don't have the medium to do so.
posted on 26/10/13
TOOR... If you honestly believe that this country is as violent and intolerant as russia then you really are a bit light in the head.
Getting a couple of people giving you funny looks and throwing a couple of drunken punches is not the same as pummelling someone'ss face into the ground whilst the police intentionally pretend nothing's happening
posted on 26/10/13
comment by Brennie Babes (U8994)
posted 3 hours, 33 minutes ago
TOOR... If you honestly believe that this country is as violent and intolerant as russia then you really are a bit light in the head.
Getting a couple of people giving you funny looks and throwing a couple of drunken punches is not the same as pummelling someone'ss face into the ground whilst the police intentionally pretend nothing's happening
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If you don't believe that there are just as bad incidents of violence in the UK as Russian then you're an ignorant halfwit.
I've seen people getting kicked in the head here also. I've seen police standing and doing nothing also. Happens every summer here.
Also when I was in Spain, a bouncer called me back as I had my pint in my hand and asked me to pour it into a plastic cup. When I went back to do it, he pulled a telescopic pole out and hit me across the eye, splitting my eye open and guess who watched it? The police. When I went to ask them why they didn't do anything, they looked at me in disgust and called me a drunk English idiot and walked on.
As I said it happens everywhere but people are so easily brainwashed they believe everything they read and because they haven't experienced something for themselves, believe it doesn't happen, as the press tell them so.
I mean if you're so ignorant, I'm sure you can find plenty of videos on Youtube or other such sites of people in the UK being beaten badly but one would think that it's common sense that this happens here. Maybe that's a trait you lack.
posted on 26/10/13
tbh toor i wouldn't be surprised if you were just being a drunken brit abroad
posted on 27/10/13
Oh look - 7 o'clock news and two British soldiers standing in front of a Union Flag, doing N azi salutes but no no, that'a not possible, that could only happen in Russia, no way could us Brits possibly do that.
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