4th home defeat to the worst team in PL history.

Ole's at the wheel.

Has stretty come back from the dead? Not been here for a while.

Boris to be fair it was another wrongly VAR assisted win. They goal we scored should have stood and the one they scored was never a goal. Its funny the goal that stands is scored due to opposition fouling the goalkeeper and the one they disallow is the goalkeeper going into our defender.

comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
Has stretty come back from the dead? Not been here for a while.
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He's been putting his head above the parapet recently.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 8 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 6 hours, 19 minutes ago
Has stretty come back from the dead? Not been here for a while.
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He's been putting his head above the parapet recently.
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Ah, right. Probably back to gloat on how well that transition’s going.

The league title was in the bag last week.

Boris if VAR disallows perfectly good goals for Man City and allows illegal goals against Man City I am sure even Man City will start losing points. Even Pep won’t win with a 2 goal handicap. Perfect example Sheffield United away Man City won by 1 goal. If they disallowed that goal for no reason and then pushed the keeper to score Pep would have lost that.

comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 7 minutes ago
Boris if VAR disallows perfectly good goals for Man City and allows illegal goals against Man City I am sure even Man City will start losing points. Even Pep won’t win with a 2 goal handicap. Perfect example Sheffield United away Man City won by 1 goal. If they disallowed that goal for no reason and then pushed the keeper to score Pep would have lost that.
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See that the gibberish is still in full flow then.

Come on Ashton, United are the first team in history to get a poor VAR decision go against them.

A bit of sympathy needed here.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 minutes ago
Come on Ashton, United are the first team in history to get a poor VAR decision go against them.

A bit of sympathy needed here.
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😢 towards the state of the vacuum between his ears.

5 points behind City and played a game more.

Concerned?

7 points behind City and played a game more.

Concerned?

Should a transition take eight (8) years? - or am I missing something.

More concerned about VAR and refs. We had perfectly good goals disallowed in last month and goals allowed against us that were clear fouls. Its got to the point I don't think I will watch football ever again as it is the same old hero VAR officials costing Man Utd points.

Last season we finished on around 85 points but VAR cost us so many points. This season we might finish on 90 points but VAR will cost us many points again. What is the point of VAR when its here to cost Man Utd?

Its funny everytime we concede a goal from a clear foul braindead oundits and ex players like Gary Neville and JFH say you have to be stronger. When has pushing players out the way to score goals ever been a tactic? The worst part is we concede so many goals that are clear fouls and VAR ignores it. We score perfectly good goals and ref disallows it.

I honestly think there is a scandal going on. VAR was introduced last season and this season it has carried on this corrupt decision making. Its like they want us to finish on 66 points again.

Its quite funny these days every opposition since VAR came in on corner kicks the opposition are more interested in fouling our goalkeeper and defenders. Nearly every corner De Gea is pushed past his own goaline or pushed so he can't get the ball. Our defenders pushed so they can try and win the ball and the worst part is these goals have stood.

I am done with football as I noticed it for years but my only hope was VAR but it seems VAR has magnified the cheating officials do to a new level?

The annoying thing is I tthink last season there were 30 big game decisions wrongly against Man Utd last season. This season it must be in the 20's by now. It was hilarious when we got a penalty against Villa away last season for fouling there player when in the game at OT rugby foul is not given as penalty and then 2 stonewall penalties away to Villa were completely ignored. So Villa were in the end net 2 penalties up but the media outcry was we are favoured.

Also West Brom at OT they think Fernandes winning the ball is a penalty as the West Brom player went into our player who won the ball so basically they are saying if a goalkeeper punches it clear and attacker goes into the goalkeeper it should be a penalty?

They say the penalty we got against Villa at OT this season wasn't a penalty as the player fouled him but because they don't want to see the clear contact it shouldn't be given?

Meant *pundits. Anyway the title race was finished when the VAR and refs did everything to give Sheffield United the win. Its amazing the 2 games we dropped points to Sheffield United have come in games they refs admit they made errors to deny Man Utd the win.

It happened last season whenever we built momentum refs ruined it. I think that is why SAF was so good. He could win even with corrupt officials denying us goals. If you watch the 08-09 season and 07-08 season you will see corruption in officials to next level. Those Man Utd sides are the greatest in the premierleague history. Cheating refs cost us trophies in other competitions as well.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9113729/United-penalty-THREE-games-Solskjaer-Klopp-spot-kicks-Liverpool.html

All it states is refs denying us clear fouls. Remember last season at the etihad the ref waved away a clear foul by Bernado Silva on Rashford to only give it as it was so clear. Shame about the return game at OY Fred got booked for diving after being cleaned out in the box and VAR didn’t overturn it. We actually should have at least 20 penalties last season in the league. It got to the point the opposition whole game plan to stop us scoring was to foul our player. I knew last season when A month into the season we had no chance at the title. Martial rugby fouled by Palace player= no penalty as VAR doesn’t check it. I never seen a player rugby fouled in the box before and not given a penalty. In same game ref thinks taking players out as the last man isn’t a red card.

What was the most funny one was when Greenwood away to Southampton gets to the ball first and Southampton player does a full swing and cleans Greenwood out and a penalty wasn’t given. It was funny an ex ref saying they didn’t give a penalty as you can lamp players in the box suggesting refs are instructed to not give Man Utd penalties. Ferdinand made a great point saying so you are allowed to kick players in the box and its not a penalty while the ex ref said yes as it is Man Utd it isn’t a penalty even though it is a clear foul.

It was also funny when James was booked for diving after having red card foul against him once and a yellow borderline red on another occassion but yes lets book James for diving as the opposition player lunged and nearly injured him for the season.

VAR gave you a penalty AFTER the game had finished against Brighton - No other team has benifitted from a decison like that but every club has suffered from poor VAR decisions, especially City.

Okay geddit. The eight (8) year transition has been held up by technology...yeah...right...okay...

The game hadn’t finished as the incident happened before the full time whistle. Players have before come back from HT break to take a penalty. I am sick of these corrupt officials costing us points. It happened for most of last season. The fact VAR continues to ignore clear fouls on our players and refs blow for fouls against us when don’t commit fouls tells me there is a clear agenda. In a space of like a month there have been like 5 decisions all wrong that cost us many goals. Maguire twice got penalised for a foul that led to a goal for us when there was no foul on 1 of them and the other it was the defender never getting to ball.

I honestly think there are refs are bribed. I won’t be surprised we finish with 66 points again after we get robbed week in week out. Imagine we got the decisions Sheffield United and West Brom got. There would be an outrage. It was funny earlier this season West Brom player running into our player is now a penalty according to ABU media. When has running into a player that kicks the ball away a foul?

Man Utd consistently finish on around 66 points. Stats similar to side who wins the league. Seems fishy to me. We have been near top of the league for shots on target for last few years now but our goal tally never shows it.

It was funny when we lost 2-0 at Anfield our last away defeat the pundits were saying one of Liverpools goal that was disallowed should have stood as players have taken us out before and goal has stood. Now pundits are trying to justify illegal goals based on players fouling us before and it counting.

Thats how bad the bias has become that now teams are used to fouling us and scoring that every goal we concede should stand even if they knock our player out.

I honestly won’t be surprised if someone leaks out info saying they were taught to cheat Man Utd. I used to think when VAR comes finally we will win the league but refs just disallow perfectly good goals by us and VAR and refs ignore clear fouls against us.

I think there really is now a scandal. How the corrupt officials got away with it last season was insane. Solskjaer biggest mistake is not talking about it.

Since the birth of football, the game has been over as soon as the referee blows his whistle to end it.

The technology that you hate overturned that whistle which is unique and you were given the chance to gain 2 extra points, which you did.

Boris the incident happened when game was in-play. So Boris you would love it if in last minute of CL final Aguero heads towards goal opposition player saves it with his arm and ref blows for FT whistle and say it is over when it was a live incident. If the handball occurred after the whistle then it would never have been given.

I actually now found out that the Maguire incident would have been a penalty even though Maguire was offside as Maguire didn't touch the ball but was fouled.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/harry-maguire-var-manchester-united-19839742

So screwed over with another 2 goal changing decisions to drop points, same as the Sheffield United game were they came out and said those were the wrong decisions.


Another ex official who doesn't know the rules lol.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12218903/ref-watch-var-overlooked-maguire-offside

How's the transition period going?