comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 12 seconds ago
You sound like the IDF PR officer.
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C'mon you know what I say is true, right?
VADA testing caught out Peterson and Berto, and then GBP stop using them and switch to USADA to do all of their fights.
Why?
USADA destroyed the collected samples of the Wright vs Quillin fight and some dodgy stuff went on for Morales vs Garcia II
What i believe is that the drug testing was NOT an issue anymore. They'd sorted all that out
Floyd went in with an offer of $40m for Manny. $20m would be wired to him before the fight and $20m after.
IN a fight that would generate probably $300m, Floyd was lowballing Manny, a boxer who at that time was on an equal footing with manny.
They were both big ppv starts and Im gna have to find the figures now but their ppv ratings were pretty much similar since they bought fought de la hoya.
So Floyd does more ppv sales, has more stacked cards and is better VFM. And this Manny chump demands 50%? Smart but deluded business.
Of course Floyd was lowballing him. That is how business negotiations start. Once the bs is removed the small print will be resolved. But $40m is more than Manny has ever earned. Floyd has done that in his last 2 fights when everything else is factored in.
comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 19 seconds ago
So Floyd does more ppv sales, has more stacked cards and is better VFM. And this Manny chump demands 50%? Smart but deluded business.
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Floyd don't get credit for having more stacked cards.
And Pacquiao offer Floyd 55/45 cut to the winner.
Floyd said he wants his larger share gauranteed
Guess Floyd know he's going to lose
He fights on better cards so it makes sense from a fans perspective to allow GBP to promote the fight with Mayweather Promotions. After all by your own admision, Top Rank delivers rank cards.
Of course Floyd wants the lions share regardless. He is the bigger draw in USA.
It would be a co-promotion.
Floyd asked for 50/50 in 2009, only when Pacquiao agreed to the testing and Floyd came back from his vacation so they were no roadblock to the fight, Floyd started to making these demands.
Why?
To create roadblocks to scupper the fight.
Pacquiao even offered Floyd 55/45, Floyd still turned it down.
Saying Pacquiao has to join his promotion company and fight for him.
Floyd has admitted he is a coward, why can't you?
floyd wanted to keep all the ppv money
if ever there was a fight that should have been 50/50, it was floyd and pacman
at the end of the day, both fighters let their egos get in the way.
i dont think the fight was ever gna happen because of bob arum. too many obstacles in the way..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9V1wkNKxGs
Floyd health is more important to him
Pacquiao would be a serious risk to Floyd's health.
A drug free Paq wouldn't. Easy money. Look at what JMM did to him and look at what Floyd did to JMM.
Here you go Az
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25078961
If you are not banned, your talents would be best served here.
At least you would be working for good
comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 2 minutes ago
A drug free Paq wouldn't. Easy money. Look at what JMM did to him and look at what Floyd did to JMM.
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Everybody knows triangle theories don't work.
Well at least they should know.
The zionist entity PM claims its a bad deal and wanted sanctions to continue.
Floyd is similar to JMM only far superior. He would tear Paq several new ones. Look at how Paq struggled with Tim. Look at his punch out put. Very low. Floyd would KO him inside the distance.
Floyd and Marquez fight nothing a like.
Pacquiao never struggling by Tim, and has put Marquez on canvas 5 times.
If it is an easy fight for Floyd why won't he take it and why doesn't mention his health when Pacquiao is concerned?
His 0 is too important to him. Pacquiao represents the biggest threat to that 0 being taken away.
comment by Mr.Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 6 minutes ago
His 0 is too important to him. Pacquiao represents the biggest threat to that 0 being taken away.
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Mr C you need to stop hanging around with D4
Last night just proved how past it Pac is, his punch resistance and speed has dropped considerably and his power now seems to have dropped considerably, even with all that at his peak he still would of lost by a wide points decision, now he'd just get stopped by Floyd in around 6 maybe 8. Wouldn't be able to hand the speed and huge amount of punches floyd throws
comment by Oscar. The Fantastic Four - Cech, JT, Lamps, D... (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night just proved how past it Pac is, his punch resistance and speed has dropped considerably and his power now seems to have dropped considerably, even with all that at his peak he still would of lost by a wide points decision, now he'd just get stopped by Floyd in around 6 maybe 8. Wouldn't be able to hand the speed and huge amount of punches floyd throws
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Pacquiao was fast, great footwork, great stamina and work rate, he didn't load up too much and look for the KO. He put on a boxing clinic, and was superb defensively.
He would make Floyd miss and make him pay.
It is clear Pacquiao has the footwork advantage.
Floyd would be hitting air a gloves all night
Oscar he does represent the biggest threat. Not saying he would win but he does have a chance and a better chance than any of Floyd's recent opponents. I like both fighters btw
Floyd doesnt throw a huge amount of punches. He's just very accurate with the ones he does throw.
comment by Mr.Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 12 seconds ago
Floyd doesnt throw a huge amount of punches. He's just very accurate with the ones he does throw.
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Who do you think has the better footwork?
I'd have to call it even
Manny's constantly on the move. Always moving
Floyd is just so good at getting out of the way.
Both have good movement.
What do you think Manny's weaknesses are.
I am not too sure which fight you watched Oscar...... Manny was solid yesterday, quick, good stamina and hard hitting. A number of those punches he landed yesterday will have Mayweather looking for a clinch.......OK FMJ is gonna be a lot harder to hit than that slob Rios but still having seen Mayweathers last few opponents Manny is streets a head.
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posted on 24/11/13
comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 12 seconds ago
You sound like the IDF PR officer.
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C'mon you know what I say is true, right?
VADA testing caught out Peterson and Berto, and then GBP stop using them and switch to USADA to do all of their fights.
Why?
USADA destroyed the collected samples of the Wright vs Quillin fight and some dodgy stuff went on for Morales vs Garcia II
posted on 24/11/13
What i believe is that the drug testing was NOT an issue anymore. They'd sorted all that out
Floyd went in with an offer of $40m for Manny. $20m would be wired to him before the fight and $20m after.
IN a fight that would generate probably $300m, Floyd was lowballing Manny, a boxer who at that time was on an equal footing with manny.
They were both big ppv starts and Im gna have to find the figures now but their ppv ratings were pretty much similar since they bought fought de la hoya.
posted on 24/11/13
So Floyd does more ppv sales, has more stacked cards and is better VFM. And this Manny chump demands 50%? Smart but deluded business.
posted on 24/11/13
Of course Floyd was lowballing him. That is how business negotiations start. Once the bs is removed the small print will be resolved. But $40m is more than Manny has ever earned. Floyd has done that in his last 2 fights when everything else is factored in.
posted on 24/11/13
comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 19 seconds ago
So Floyd does more ppv sales, has more stacked cards and is better VFM. And this Manny chump demands 50%? Smart but deluded business.
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Floyd don't get credit for having more stacked cards.
And Pacquiao offer Floyd 55/45 cut to the winner.
Floyd said he wants his larger share gauranteed
Guess Floyd know he's going to lose
posted on 24/11/13
He fights on better cards so it makes sense from a fans perspective to allow GBP to promote the fight with Mayweather Promotions. After all by your own admision, Top Rank delivers rank cards.
Of course Floyd wants the lions share regardless. He is the bigger draw in USA.
posted on 24/11/13
It would be a co-promotion.
Floyd asked for 50/50 in 2009, only when Pacquiao agreed to the testing and Floyd came back from his vacation so they were no roadblock to the fight, Floyd started to making these demands.
Why?
To create roadblocks to scupper the fight.
Pacquiao even offered Floyd 55/45, Floyd still turned it down.
Saying Pacquiao has to join his promotion company and fight for him.
Floyd has admitted he is a coward, why can't you?
posted on 24/11/13
floyd wanted to keep all the ppv money
if ever there was a fight that should have been 50/50, it was floyd and pacman
at the end of the day, both fighters let their egos get in the way.
i dont think the fight was ever gna happen because of bob arum. too many obstacles in the way..
posted on 24/11/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9V1wkNKxGs
Floyd health is more important to him
Pacquiao would be a serious risk to Floyd's health.
posted on 24/11/13
A drug free Paq wouldn't. Easy money. Look at what JMM did to him and look at what Floyd did to JMM.
posted on 24/11/13
Here you go Az
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25078961
If you are not banned, your talents would be best served here.
At least you would be working for good
posted on 24/11/13
comment by mandingo - if Arsene put the ar$e in Arsenal, ... (U12379)
posted 2 minutes ago
A drug free Paq wouldn't. Easy money. Look at what JMM did to him and look at what Floyd did to JMM.
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Everybody knows triangle theories don't work.
Well at least they should know.
posted on 24/11/13
The zionist entity PM claims its a bad deal and wanted sanctions to continue.
posted on 24/11/13
Floyd is similar to JMM only far superior. He would tear Paq several new ones. Look at how Paq struggled with Tim. Look at his punch out put. Very low. Floyd would KO him inside the distance.
posted on 24/11/13
Floyd and Marquez fight nothing a like.
Pacquiao never struggling by Tim, and has put Marquez on canvas 5 times.
If it is an easy fight for Floyd why won't he take it and why doesn't mention his health when Pacquiao is concerned?
posted on 24/11/13
His 0 is too important to him. Pacquiao represents the biggest threat to that 0 being taken away.
posted on 24/11/13
comment by Mr.Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 6 minutes ago
His 0 is too important to him. Pacquiao represents the biggest threat to that 0 being taken away.
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Mr C you need to stop hanging around with D4
posted on 24/11/13
Last night just proved how past it Pac is, his punch resistance and speed has dropped considerably and his power now seems to have dropped considerably, even with all that at his peak he still would of lost by a wide points decision, now he'd just get stopped by Floyd in around 6 maybe 8. Wouldn't be able to hand the speed and huge amount of punches floyd throws
posted on 24/11/13
comment by Oscar. The Fantastic Four - Cech, JT, Lamps, D... (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
Last night just proved how past it Pac is, his punch resistance and speed has dropped considerably and his power now seems to have dropped considerably, even with all that at his peak he still would of lost by a wide points decision, now he'd just get stopped by Floyd in around 6 maybe 8. Wouldn't be able to hand the speed and huge amount of punches floyd throws
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Pacquiao was fast, great footwork, great stamina and work rate, he didn't load up too much and look for the KO. He put on a boxing clinic, and was superb defensively.
He would make Floyd miss and make him pay.
It is clear Pacquiao has the footwork advantage.
Floyd would be hitting air a gloves all night
posted on 24/11/13
Oscar he does represent the biggest threat. Not saying he would win but he does have a chance and a better chance than any of Floyd's recent opponents. I like both fighters btw
posted on 24/11/13
Floyd doesnt throw a huge amount of punches. He's just very accurate with the ones he does throw.
posted on 24/11/13
comment by Mr.Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 12 seconds ago
Floyd doesnt throw a huge amount of punches. He's just very accurate with the ones he does throw.
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Who do you think has the better footwork?
posted on 24/11/13
I'd have to call it even
Manny's constantly on the move. Always moving
Floyd is just so good at getting out of the way.
Both have good movement.
posted on 24/11/13
What do you think Manny's weaknesses are.
posted on 24/11/13
I am not too sure which fight you watched Oscar...... Manny was solid yesterday, quick, good stamina and hard hitting. A number of those punches he landed yesterday will have Mayweather looking for a clinch.......OK FMJ is gonna be a lot harder to hit than that slob Rios but still having seen Mayweathers last few opponents Manny is streets a head.
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