Ronniec, you are overrating some Bayern players its unbelieveable.
Schweinsteiger regressed massively compared to past seasons. Surely due to some injuries he had. Müller world class? . Pizzaro is past it since a few years and if you think he is on par with OG is just ridiculous. Mandzukic? I am speechless.
Özil is the only world class player we have, Cazorla is next.
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Funny because these two haven't been the best performing players in the last few games!
Exactly pp12.
Doesn't matter if they haven't been performing, they are proven quality players, a dip in form doesn't change that.
I am not talking about a dip in form
"Özil is the only world class player we have, Cazorla is next."
I think Cazorla, & Koscielny are world class too. Along with Mertesacker being on the borderline.
"Müller world class?"
I think Muller's world class. Kinda surprised seeing you say that as a German.
Chelsea dominated England without a world class striker.
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We had Drogba, have you lot already forgotten, look at us now we rely on our AM's to get goals. If they dont perform week in week out we struggle.
Drogba wasn't world class then though, was he?
Doesn't matter if they haven't been performing, they are proven quality players, a dip in form doesn't change that.
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So let's buy Torres then!
I'm not doubting that they are not proven, but they have not been carrying the team. The team have collectively been carrying themselves.
GT,
How Muller is not world class? He is the MOST consistent player for Germany and Bayern since WC2010, and he always performs. He scores, he assists, and he defends. A TOTAL package.
Schweini may be regressed a bit, but when he can play, he IS the leader. Whenever he plays, the team fights, which is some leadership that Lahm cannot provide, even Lahm is the captain. When Schweini plays with injury, he is no world class for sure. When he plays healthy, he IS.
Yes, I truely believe Pizarro is on par with OG. You give the same amount of playing time to Pizarro, he will perform. He will have less assists/headers/flicks than OG, but he is more lethal in front of goal and will score more goals.
I did not say Mandzukic is world class. I just said when he is in form, he is a very, very good player.
I listed out the Bayern players because the orginal topic was, if we need a world class striker, and someone said Bayern did not have one and still succeed. In general, Bayern has a way much balanced and better squad than us, so that don't really need a world class striker, unlike us.
ronniec, everyone is entitle to his opinion. In my view you clearly overrate Bayern Munich. They havent got much to challenge in the Bundesliga. In comparison to the Heynckes era they are not on the same level. Watch Bundesliga games week in and week out and you will find out. In the CL League they play against opponents who are not CL League level. So no competition.
They have individual class especially in their midfield that is for sure and their moving all over the pitch is their success. They will be found out as were Barca.
Individual class is helpful too of course. The players you mentioned are not world class but yes doing their jobs.
"We had Drogba, have you lot already forgotten, look at us now we rely on our AM's to get goals. If they dont perform week in week out we struggle."
Drogba was pants in his 1st 2 seasons.
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posted on 28/11/13
Ronniec, you are overrating some Bayern players its unbelieveable.
Schweinsteiger regressed massively compared to past seasons. Surely due to some injuries he had. Müller world class? . Pizzaro is past it since a few years and if you think he is on par with OG is just ridiculous. Mandzukic? I am speechless.
posted on 28/11/13
Özil is the only world class player we have, Cazorla is next.
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Funny because these two haven't been the best performing players in the last few games!
Exactly pp12.
posted on 28/11/13
Doesn't matter if they haven't been performing, they are proven quality players, a dip in form doesn't change that.
posted on 28/11/13
I am not talking about a dip in form
posted on 29/11/13
"Özil is the only world class player we have, Cazorla is next."
I think Cazorla, & Koscielny are world class too. Along with Mertesacker being on the borderline.
"Müller world class?"
I think Muller's world class. Kinda surprised seeing you say that as a German.
posted on 29/11/13
Chelsea dominated England without a world class striker.
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We had Drogba, have you lot already forgotten, look at us now we rely on our AM's to get goals. If they dont perform week in week out we struggle.
posted on 29/11/13
Drogba wasn't world class then though, was he?
posted on 29/11/13
Doesn't matter if they haven't been performing, they are proven quality players, a dip in form doesn't change that.
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So let's buy Torres then!
I'm not doubting that they are not proven, but they have not been carrying the team. The team have collectively been carrying themselves.
posted on 29/11/13
GT,
How Muller is not world class? He is the MOST consistent player for Germany and Bayern since WC2010, and he always performs. He scores, he assists, and he defends. A TOTAL package.
Schweini may be regressed a bit, but when he can play, he IS the leader. Whenever he plays, the team fights, which is some leadership that Lahm cannot provide, even Lahm is the captain. When Schweini plays with injury, he is no world class for sure. When he plays healthy, he IS.
Yes, I truely believe Pizarro is on par with OG. You give the same amount of playing time to Pizarro, he will perform. He will have less assists/headers/flicks than OG, but he is more lethal in front of goal and will score more goals.
I did not say Mandzukic is world class. I just said when he is in form, he is a very, very good player.
I listed out the Bayern players because the orginal topic was, if we need a world class striker, and someone said Bayern did not have one and still succeed. In general, Bayern has a way much balanced and better squad than us, so that don't really need a world class striker, unlike us.
posted on 29/11/13
ronniec, everyone is entitle to his opinion. In my view you clearly overrate Bayern Munich. They havent got much to challenge in the Bundesliga. In comparison to the Heynckes era they are not on the same level. Watch Bundesliga games week in and week out and you will find out. In the CL League they play against opponents who are not CL League level. So no competition.
They have individual class especially in their midfield that is for sure and their moving all over the pitch is their success. They will be found out as were Barca.
Individual class is helpful too of course. The players you mentioned are not world class but yes doing their jobs.
posted on 29/11/13
"We had Drogba, have you lot already forgotten, look at us now we rely on our AM's to get goals. If they dont perform week in week out we struggle."
Drogba was pants in his 1st 2 seasons.
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