Paulinho and Dembele really aren't DM's for me.
Dembele over sandro as a lone dm... hmm
I'd pick Sandro over Dembele as lone DM anyday.
But the point is playing only one, which ever one that is
If we look at the last match against Sunderland we played a midfield of Dembele, Holtby and Paulinho. From what I saw none of these 3 really played a dedicated defensive role.
Super Tottenham
My reference was to our home games where we look bereft of ideas
i think AVB was always working towards his 4-3-3 style he had at porto.
one holder, 2 (sandro) more attacking cms (take your pick). one winger on the correct side (lennon), and one inverted winger (chadli), and a striker.
i think he went
------------dm-------dm--------------
------------------am--------------------
in order to solidify us up to begin with - its easier to build attacking play off a solid base.
*should be… one holder (sandro),
Maybe so chronic but it doesn't take 18 months to solidify... Except you're mercury
I expect AVB to revert to type for home games ie 2 DMs, but I really hope not. That's just not the way forward.
DM - Sandro/Dembele/Capoue
Then 2 of
Siggy
Lamela
Holtby
Eriksen
Simples.
Away then Paulinho and Capoue come into the picture for these 2 midfield roles...
the thing is playing 2 dms is not necessarily a bad thing as long as they are good on the ball and release good quick ball early.
the problem is that dembele wasn't doing that. but he is starting to do it more now.
He didn't change the formation. Still a 433/4231
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 52 seconds ago
He didn't change the formation. Still a 433/4231
---
yeah but he seems to have flipped the line up of the middle 3
-----dm---
am---am
instead of dm --- dm
--------------------am----------
We've played a 1-2 in CM quite a few times this season. I get your point though
I think if we played 2 of Sigurdsson, Lamela and Eriksen as attack minded midfielders it would give us a weak midfield and we would struggle to control the midfield.
One of these three with Holtby could possibly work though due to his energy and work rate.
I have no problem with playing a fluid formation. 4-2-31 is fine it is the tactics that accompany that.
Its embarrasing that its now been figured out but if you play the way avb does which is to control and counter you need wingers on there right side. It is a horrific idea to use the silly inverted wingers and make the play narrow therefore foresaking any space your players have to run into.
It is absoloutely unforgiveable to play that way when the majority of your players possess huge pace you want them to run and split the opponents backline. At that point then clever players like sigģy and eriksen can player clever balls through the gaps.
This is why I get so negative because it is simple stuff.
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posted on 12/12/13
Paulinho and Dembele really aren't DM's for me.
posted on 12/12/13
Dembele over sandro as a lone dm... hmm
posted on 12/12/13
I'd pick Sandro over Dembele as lone DM anyday.
But the point is playing only one, which ever one that is
posted on 12/12/13
If we look at the last match against Sunderland we played a midfield of Dembele, Holtby and Paulinho. From what I saw none of these 3 really played a dedicated defensive role.
posted on 12/12/13
Super Tottenham
My reference was to our home games where we look bereft of ideas
posted on 12/12/13
i think AVB was always working towards his 4-3-3 style he had at porto.
one holder, 2 (sandro) more attacking cms (take your pick). one winger on the correct side (lennon), and one inverted winger (chadli), and a striker.
i think he went
------------dm-------dm--------------
------------------am--------------------
in order to solidify us up to begin with - its easier to build attacking play off a solid base.
posted on 12/12/13
*should be… one holder (sandro),
posted on 12/12/13
Maybe so chronic but it doesn't take 18 months to solidify... Except you're mercury
I expect AVB to revert to type for home games ie 2 DMs, but I really hope not. That's just not the way forward.
DM - Sandro/Dembele/Capoue
Then 2 of
Siggy
Lamela
Holtby
Eriksen
Simples.
Away then Paulinho and Capoue come into the picture for these 2 midfield roles...
posted on 12/12/13
the thing is playing 2 dms is not necessarily a bad thing as long as they are good on the ball and release good quick ball early.
the problem is that dembele wasn't doing that. but he is starting to do it more now.
posted on 12/12/13
He didn't change the formation. Still a 433/4231
posted on 12/12/13
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 52 seconds ago
He didn't change the formation. Still a 433/4231
---
yeah but he seems to have flipped the line up of the middle 3
-----dm---
am---am
instead of dm --- dm
--------------------am----------
posted on 12/12/13
We've played a 1-2 in CM quite a few times this season. I get your point though
posted on 12/12/13
I think if we played 2 of Sigurdsson, Lamela and Eriksen as attack minded midfielders it would give us a weak midfield and we would struggle to control the midfield.
One of these three with Holtby could possibly work though due to his energy and work rate.
posted on 13/12/13
I have no problem with playing a fluid formation. 4-2-31 is fine it is the tactics that accompany that.
Its embarrasing that its now been figured out but if you play the way avb does which is to control and counter you need wingers on there right side. It is a horrific idea to use the silly inverted wingers and make the play narrow therefore foresaking any space your players have to run into.
It is absoloutely unforgiveable to play that way when the majority of your players possess huge pace you want them to run and split the opponents backline. At that point then clever players like sigģy and eriksen can player clever balls through the gaps.
This is why I get so negative because it is simple stuff.
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