Biggish will stop with your Drivel here?
We all know Bayern have struggled in their league until Pep came along and totally turned around their fortunes.
And we all know Jose has come along and taken a team that won the past 3 Premiership titles and totally ruined it's style of play.
A painful example one ruined by jose's philosophy?
Mikel!
Well Jose left the club in 2007 when Mikel was just 20, so please stop talking utter bollox...
that's true Biggish
But like i say - Jose has come back to a team that won the past 3 premierships
and Pep took over a struggling Bayern team. Both have completely reversed the fortunes of their respective teams.
Pep is a living legend and Jose is just a chancer who should be managing the 1980s Wimbledon
and whilst we're on the subject of your malicious propaganda................
Spain is not Sunny
It never rains in the UK
And they're giving out Fivers in all UK post offices in a box that is labelled "Free take one"
I do understand why so many people hate him, i myself am a bit bored with his antics now, but i want the guy to be evaluated fairly.
Biggish on a serious note....................
Does the possible Matic return remind you of one of our previous deals?
Ok Luiz is not Steve Livingstone. But my god the deal looks all too familar.
I was gutted when we sold him Flash, always rated Matic massively and Le Saux did well for u when he returned.
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Because we don't appear to learn our lessons from past mistakes when it comes to transfers. In or out...
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Well at some point Jose is gonna say what you have just said to Roman's face and the big question will then be if it costs Mourinho his job again or if Roman this time actually listens...............i fear it will be the former rather than the latter
"Bayern have something to say about doing it under half a season, or even less.
"
What a load of bollox they've been buying up great players in every positions for years to try and form their current squad
Well at some point Jose is gonna say what you have just said to Roman's face and the big question will then be if it costs Mourinho his job again or if Roman this time actually listens...............i fear it will be the former rather than the latter
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That kinda goes hand in hand with the "real reason" Tixi Begiristain did not get the DOF role at Chelsea. Apparently Roman said there was no need to change how things were run at Chelsea.............
That's worrying even now because in my opinion we're still at the Mercy of a control freak..........a Feckin rich control freak but still a control freak nevertheless.
Utd had a Glaswegian control freak.
Who incidently is still there
The reactions of our fan base towards Benitez and Mourinho is fascinating to me (at times saddening, but fascinating none the less).
The pro-camp for both appear to exhibit the same selective traits when praising each manager, but the interesting thing is the responses from the perceived anti-camps...... where those fans wanted Benitez to fail, to lose matches and eliminate any possibility of him becoming our full-time manager, that's just the reality of it. The anti Jose group seem to be daring him to fail - almost like a challenge to prove them wrong based on his own inflated expectations. You see a lot of definitive statements partnered with phrases like 'if he can't adapt', 'if he can't change', etc... there demonstrates a believe and/or desire that he is capable of addressing their reservations.
I'm also of the opinion he is in isolated cases sacrificing the natural talents of the team for the alleged benefit of his own brand of football - but it's not as if we've been blagged by him doing this. This is the manager who made an in his prime Samuel Eto'o sit out wide shielding the possession. He turned Real into a counter attacking team (probably one of the best I've ever seen in 11/12 especially, but a counter attacking team none the less). This is Jose, we got what was advertised there
Where you work Psycho. Are you the boss ?
Where I work, the cockroaches living in the walls have more responsibility and respect than me
So you're just the translator
Show them all like Jose did
I don't think there is a pro Mourinho camp on this board, just a pro managerial stability camp
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the only one I have wanted sacked was AVB and I don't think I was wrong on that
Hear hear ....hear hear .
The anti Jose group
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I love that. People raise legitimate criticisms, or suggest Jose may have made some mistakes...
or they suggest there may be setbacks or that there will be difficulties with Jose.....
and consequently get lumped into some group. People who criticise Jose are assessed collectively or generalised in such stupid ways.
It's ridiculous.
And the truth is, none of us are daring Jose to fail. We all want Chelsea to do well. We just have different perceptions of events and want different things from Chelsea and regard success to mean more than one thing.
That is our right, to have our own views. The reactionary comments and the criticisms made of anyone who opens up debate or discussion over some of the ridiculously flawed/stupid things Jose had done arent fair or right.
You've said before i hope we lose
So when the likes of yourself and others continue to blam mourinho after half a season in charge for the total mess that has been our club for th last 4 or 5 years, yes from my perspective it comes across as anti Mourinho.
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I genuiney felt Biggish, we were (repeat:WERE) going in the right direction.
How have we been in a mess?
And yes, with Mata, Hazard, Oscar in the team....I do think good football can be achieved.
I dotn want Barca clones, I want good football though.
And you blame the board for the fact our youth players keep being shleved out and the old guard remain....if Jose wanted to keep these players here...he could
And sadly, it is down to him that Lamps probably got a new contract (big mistake) and that Terry will probably not leave till he's 40 (big mistake, because whatever the media say, he has been patchy at best and isnt right for the progressive football i thought we were aspiring to)
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posted on 27/12/13
Biggish will stop with your Drivel here?
We all know Bayern have struggled in their league until Pep came along and totally turned around their fortunes.
And we all know Jose has come along and taken a team that won the past 3 Premiership titles and totally ruined it's style of play.
posted on 27/12/13
A painful example one ruined by jose's philosophy?
Mikel!
posted on 27/12/13
Well Jose left the club in 2007 when Mikel was just 20, so please stop talking utter bollox...
posted on 27/12/13
that's true Biggish
But like i say - Jose has come back to a team that won the past 3 premierships
and Pep took over a struggling Bayern team. Both have completely reversed the fortunes of their respective teams.
Pep is a living legend and Jose is just a chancer who should be managing the 1980s Wimbledon
posted on 27/12/13
and whilst we're on the subject of your malicious propaganda................
Spain is not Sunny
It never rains in the UK
And they're giving out Fivers in all UK post offices in a box that is labelled "Free take one"
posted on 27/12/13
I do understand why so many people hate him, i myself am a bit bored with his antics now, but i want the guy to be evaluated fairly.
posted on 27/12/13
Biggish on a serious note....................
Does the possible Matic return remind you of one of our previous deals?
Ok Luiz is not Steve Livingstone. But my god the deal looks all too familar.
posted on 27/12/13
I was gutted when we sold him Flash, always rated Matic massively and Le Saux did well for u when he returned.
posted on 27/12/13
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posted on 27/12/13
Because we don't appear to learn our lessons from past mistakes when it comes to transfers. In or out...
-----------------------------------------
Well at some point Jose is gonna say what you have just said to Roman's face and the big question will then be if it costs Mourinho his job again or if Roman this time actually listens...............i fear it will be the former rather than the latter
posted on 27/12/13
"Bayern have something to say about doing it under half a season, or even less.
"
What a load of bollox they've been buying up great players in every positions for years to try and form their current squad
posted on 27/12/13
Well at some point Jose is gonna say what you have just said to Roman's face and the big question will then be if it costs Mourinho his job again or if Roman this time actually listens...............i fear it will be the former rather than the latter
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That kinda goes hand in hand with the "real reason" Tixi Begiristain did not get the DOF role at Chelsea. Apparently Roman said there was no need to change how things were run at Chelsea.............
That's worrying even now because in my opinion we're still at the Mercy of a control freak..........a Feckin rich control freak but still a control freak nevertheless.
posted on 27/12/13
Utd had a Glaswegian control freak.
Who incidently is still there
posted on 27/12/13
The reactions of our fan base towards Benitez and Mourinho is fascinating to me (at times saddening, but fascinating none the less).
The pro-camp for both appear to exhibit the same selective traits when praising each manager, but the interesting thing is the responses from the perceived anti-camps...... where those fans wanted Benitez to fail, to lose matches and eliminate any possibility of him becoming our full-time manager, that's just the reality of it. The anti Jose group seem to be daring him to fail - almost like a challenge to prove them wrong based on his own inflated expectations. You see a lot of definitive statements partnered with phrases like 'if he can't adapt', 'if he can't change', etc... there demonstrates a believe and/or desire that he is capable of addressing their reservations.
I'm also of the opinion he is in isolated cases sacrificing the natural talents of the team for the alleged benefit of his own brand of football - but it's not as if we've been blagged by him doing this. This is the manager who made an in his prime Samuel Eto'o sit out wide shielding the possession. He turned Real into a counter attacking team (probably one of the best I've ever seen in 11/12 especially, but a counter attacking team none the less). This is Jose, we got what was advertised there
posted on 27/12/13
Where you work Psycho. Are you the boss ?
posted on 27/12/13
Where I work, the cockroaches living in the walls have more responsibility and respect than me
posted on 27/12/13
So you're just the translator
Show them all like Jose did
posted on 27/12/13
I don't think there is a pro Mourinho camp on this board, just a pro managerial stability camp
posted on 27/12/13
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posted on 27/12/13
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posted on 27/12/13
the only one I have wanted sacked was AVB and I don't think I was wrong on that
posted on 27/12/13
Hear hear ....hear hear .
posted on 27/12/13
The anti Jose group
-
I love that. People raise legitimate criticisms, or suggest Jose may have made some mistakes...
or they suggest there may be setbacks or that there will be difficulties with Jose.....
and consequently get lumped into some group. People who criticise Jose are assessed collectively or generalised in such stupid ways.
It's ridiculous.
And the truth is, none of us are daring Jose to fail. We all want Chelsea to do well. We just have different perceptions of events and want different things from Chelsea and regard success to mean more than one thing.
That is our right, to have our own views. The reactionary comments and the criticisms made of anyone who opens up debate or discussion over some of the ridiculously flawed/stupid things Jose had done arent fair or right.
posted on 27/12/13
You've said before i hope we lose
posted on 27/12/13
So when the likes of yourself and others continue to blam mourinho after half a season in charge for the total mess that has been our club for th last 4 or 5 years, yes from my perspective it comes across as anti Mourinho.
-
I genuiney felt Biggish, we were (repeat:WERE) going in the right direction.
How have we been in a mess?
And yes, with Mata, Hazard, Oscar in the team....I do think good football can be achieved.
I dotn want Barca clones, I want good football though.
And you blame the board for the fact our youth players keep being shleved out and the old guard remain....if Jose wanted to keep these players here...he could
And sadly, it is down to him that Lamps probably got a new contract (big mistake) and that Terry will probably not leave till he's 40 (big mistake, because whatever the media say, he has been patchy at best and isnt right for the progressive football i thought we were aspiring to)
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