I know Sheriff ffs. Can't a brother do a little wumming without the popo (Sheriffs) interfering? Shish!
Ok the post before that was a little joke. But oh dear. Sheriff the mug comparing United to City. You really are a deluded Manc aren't you?
Ok the post before that was a little joke. But oh dear. Sheriff the mug comparing United to City. You really are a deluded Manc aren't you?
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Both teams beat us this season, so why wouldn't I compare them. And no, I was comparing Mata, Rooney and RVP to Silva, Negredo and Aguero, not the clubs. Keep up.
And when all the false bravado is finished here, most here would ultimately be sh1tting themselves when United visit us at the prospect of losing.
Still can't believe Mata's joining United. They are looking dreadful and Chelsea are just casually handing them their most creative player? Makes me feel sick.
I doubt we'll get much from the Emirates even with Mata.
It may have something to do with Chelsea's thinking but I reckon that the money was probably a bigger reason that hoping Mata can help us take a couple of points off of their rivals.
Sheriff wound up because someone has a pop at his beloved Man Utd
Mata got those stats because the team was built around him. Let's see how he does at Man Utd when the play goes through Rooney and RVP.
Also Man City players put a shift in which was a main factor in why Mata couldnt get into the Chelsea team.
t I reckon that the money was probably a bigger reason that hoping Mata can help us take a couple of points off of their rivals.
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Ok. But then what about next season? Or the season after?
Mata is a world class player. He has strengthened your team significantly, while Chelsea lose their most creative player. Next season I expect United to be challenging for the title or at the very least, putting up more of a fight than this season. Signing a player of Mata's calibre makes you a bigger threat. That's why I can't understand why Chelsea did not keep him until the end of the season or sold him abroad. Selling him just to take points off City and Arsenal this season helps them out for the time being, but not for the long haul.
Chelsea have bent over for you and allowed you to penetrate them freely.
Mata got those stats because the team was built around him. Let's see how he does at Man Utd when the play goes through Rooney and RVP.
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Conventional logic should mean he'd play even better linking up with 2 lethal, intelligent, gifted, world class forwards than goal-shy Fernando Torres.
Samir, I agree, I don't get it either. I didn't think Chelsea would even entertain the thought of selling us Mata, not just for those reason but because, contrary to popular belief, have a thin squad in the attacking positions.
Willian, Oscar, Hazard and Shurrle are now their only options for those attacking three positions - with perhaps Ramires playing there, but he's not that good - so it surprised me they'd let a player go who has so much to contribute for them this season when they are competing for three trophies, even if his form hasn't been the greatest.
I'm glad they have, though, he's one of my favourite players. Maybe Rooney could go the other way in the summer?
That's another thing I don't understand Darren.
Mourinho publicly spoke about Rooney, seemingly tried to unsettle him and made two bids for him in the region of £30m yet you outright rejected the offers and United were adamant Wayne Rooney would be a United player.
The second you make an offer for Juan Mata, they accept the first bid!
I'm sure there is a catch to it, as surely Chelsea would not be so stupid. But for the time being, it just seems like a poor piece of business from Chelsea's point of view whichever way I look at it. Clearly Chelsea have no concept of negotiating properly.
Yeah that's true. Would be funny if Rooney signs a new contract in the summer and we just tell them they'll have to take Hernandez instead.
Absolutely pathetic. Chelsea fans made fun of us selling RVP to United.
But at least we were kinda put on the spot with his contract running out and whatnot.
We postured quite a bit too. Chelsea just gave up without a fight. Which is strange. Because Man U told him to do one when they tried to get Rooney.
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah that's true. Would be funny if Rooney signs a new contract in the summer and we just tell them they'll have to take Hernandez instead.
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Good thinking, but you need to work on the sales pitch.
"Rooney's staying, but you can have Hernndez for 37M."
Dubbed, true, Mata's contract doesn't run out until 2016. Chelsea could have waited for another club to come in and bid for him or waited until the end of the season and weigh out the options. Pure lunacy.
Never thought I'd see Chelsea sell one of their best players to United. I want to say this is akin to the van Persie situation. But van Persie's absence led to our results suffering. That hasn't been the case at Chelsea with Mata's exclusion from the first team, which is irritating.
Wonder whether Mou'd set his sights on Falcao. Seems he might have done his knee ligaments tonight.
ioag
This is stranger than the RVP situation, in my opinion. I didn't expect the RVP transfer to happen at the time but you can understand why it did given the circumstances, this one makes no sense given the circumstances at Chelsea.
See above. Jose planning a trip to Harrod's no doubt.
Possibly, but Harrod's doesn't seem to have much stock in the shop window this January.
Never thought I'd see Chelsea sell one of their best players to United. I want to say this is akin to the van Persie situation.
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No, it isn't. It's probably more similar to Madrid selling Ozil. Mata is a dispensable player, so he was sold for big money. RVP was by FAR our most important, high profile player and we still sold him.
I cant see a longterm plan in Chelsea's policy. Selling Mata who is a proven PL League player and already showed what he is capable to do to a rival of the title in the near future makes absolute no sense.
It would be naive in Chelsea's thinking that selling Mata to harm others title contenders would be ridiculous because United need more than Mata to turn things around.
On the other hand United overpaid for Mata. Mata not the position United have to improve in the first place at the moment. They are positions they must improve immediately so that the season turned out to a complete disaster. Mata buy shows that United is in deep crisis and desperation at the moment to do something.
Chelsea made a £50m+ loss last year. This is an attempt to balance the books slightly. And they have their wing targets to replace Mata.
Mata or messi, utd would still be shít under Moyes.
No, it isn't.
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Yes, I know it isn't . How about reading the rest of my post, rather than taking one sentence in isolation?
"Yes, I know it isn't . How
about reading the rest of my post, rather than taking one sentence in isolation?"
I did read it, and said the 2 situations aren't comparable. What else am I supposed to be seeing?
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posted on 23/1/14
I know Sheriff ffs. Can't a brother do a little wumming without the popo (Sheriffs) interfering? Shish!
posted on 23/1/14
Ok the post before that was a little joke. But oh dear. Sheriff the mug comparing United to City. You really are a deluded Manc aren't you?
posted on 23/1/14
Ok the post before that was a little joke. But oh dear. Sheriff the mug comparing United to City. You really are a deluded Manc aren't you?
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Both teams beat us this season, so why wouldn't I compare them. And no, I was comparing Mata, Rooney and RVP to Silva, Negredo and Aguero, not the clubs. Keep up.
And when all the false bravado is finished here, most here would ultimately be sh1tting themselves when United visit us at the prospect of losing.
posted on 23/1/14
Still can't believe Mata's joining United. They are looking dreadful and Chelsea are just casually handing them their most creative player? Makes me feel sick.
posted on 23/1/14
I doubt we'll get much from the Emirates even with Mata.
It may have something to do with Chelsea's thinking but I reckon that the money was probably a bigger reason that hoping Mata can help us take a couple of points off of their rivals.
posted on 23/1/14
Sheriff wound up because someone has a pop at his beloved Man Utd
posted on 23/1/14
Mata got those stats because the team was built around him. Let's see how he does at Man Utd when the play goes through Rooney and RVP.
Also Man City players put a shift in which was a main factor in why Mata couldnt get into the Chelsea team.
posted on 23/1/14
t I reckon that the money was probably a bigger reason that hoping Mata can help us take a couple of points off of their rivals.
===
Ok. But then what about next season? Or the season after?
Mata is a world class player. He has strengthened your team significantly, while Chelsea lose their most creative player. Next season I expect United to be challenging for the title or at the very least, putting up more of a fight than this season. Signing a player of Mata's calibre makes you a bigger threat. That's why I can't understand why Chelsea did not keep him until the end of the season or sold him abroad. Selling him just to take points off City and Arsenal this season helps them out for the time being, but not for the long haul.
Chelsea have bent over for you and allowed you to penetrate them freely.
posted on 23/1/14
Mata got those stats because the team was built around him. Let's see how he does at Man Utd when the play goes through Rooney and RVP.
-----------------------------------------
Conventional logic should mean he'd play even better linking up with 2 lethal, intelligent, gifted, world class forwards than goal-shy Fernando Torres.
posted on 23/1/14
Samir, I agree, I don't get it either. I didn't think Chelsea would even entertain the thought of selling us Mata, not just for those reason but because, contrary to popular belief, have a thin squad in the attacking positions.
Willian, Oscar, Hazard and Shurrle are now their only options for those attacking three positions - with perhaps Ramires playing there, but he's not that good - so it surprised me they'd let a player go who has so much to contribute for them this season when they are competing for three trophies, even if his form hasn't been the greatest.
I'm glad they have, though, he's one of my favourite players. Maybe Rooney could go the other way in the summer?
posted on 23/1/14
That's another thing I don't understand Darren.
Mourinho publicly spoke about Rooney, seemingly tried to unsettle him and made two bids for him in the region of £30m yet you outright rejected the offers and United were adamant Wayne Rooney would be a United player.
The second you make an offer for Juan Mata, they accept the first bid!
I'm sure there is a catch to it, as surely Chelsea would not be so stupid. But for the time being, it just seems like a poor piece of business from Chelsea's point of view whichever way I look at it. Clearly Chelsea have no concept of negotiating properly.
posted on 23/1/14
Yeah that's true. Would be funny if Rooney signs a new contract in the summer and we just tell them they'll have to take Hernandez instead.
posted on 23/1/14
Absolutely pathetic. Chelsea fans made fun of us selling RVP to United.
But at least we were kinda put on the spot with his contract running out and whatnot.
We postured quite a bit too. Chelsea just gave up without a fight. Which is strange. Because Man U told him to do one when they tried to get Rooney.
posted on 23/1/14
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah that's true. Would be funny if Rooney signs a new contract in the summer and we just tell them they'll have to take Hernandez instead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good thinking, but you need to work on the sales pitch.
"Rooney's staying, but you can have Hernndez for 37M."
posted on 23/1/14
Dubbed, true, Mata's contract doesn't run out until 2016. Chelsea could have waited for another club to come in and bid for him or waited until the end of the season and weigh out the options. Pure lunacy.
Never thought I'd see Chelsea sell one of their best players to United. I want to say this is akin to the van Persie situation. But van Persie's absence led to our results suffering. That hasn't been the case at Chelsea with Mata's exclusion from the first team, which is irritating.
posted on 23/1/14
Wonder whether Mou'd set his sights on Falcao. Seems he might have done his knee ligaments tonight.
posted on 23/1/14
ioag
This is stranger than the RVP situation, in my opinion. I didn't expect the RVP transfer to happen at the time but you can understand why it did given the circumstances, this one makes no sense given the circumstances at Chelsea.
posted on 23/1/14
See above. Jose planning a trip to Harrod's no doubt.
posted on 23/1/14
Possibly, but Harrod's doesn't seem to have much stock in the shop window this January.
posted on 23/1/14
Never thought I'd see Chelsea sell one of their best players to United. I want to say this is akin to the van Persie situation.
--------------------------------------------------
No, it isn't. It's probably more similar to Madrid selling Ozil. Mata is a dispensable player, so he was sold for big money. RVP was by FAR our most important, high profile player and we still sold him.
posted on 23/1/14
I cant see a longterm plan in Chelsea's policy. Selling Mata who is a proven PL League player and already showed what he is capable to do to a rival of the title in the near future makes absolute no sense.
It would be naive in Chelsea's thinking that selling Mata to harm others title contenders would be ridiculous because United need more than Mata to turn things around.
On the other hand United overpaid for Mata. Mata not the position United have to improve in the first place at the moment. They are positions they must improve immediately so that the season turned out to a complete disaster. Mata buy shows that United is in deep crisis and desperation at the moment to do something.
posted on 23/1/14
Chelsea made a £50m+ loss last year. This is an attempt to balance the books slightly. And they have their wing targets to replace Mata.
posted on 23/1/14
Mata or messi, utd would still be shít under Moyes.
posted on 23/1/14
No, it isn't.
===
Yes, I know it isn't . How about reading the rest of my post, rather than taking one sentence in isolation?
posted on 23/1/14
"Yes, I know it isn't . How
about reading the rest of my post, rather than taking one sentence in isolation?"
I did read it, and said the 2 situations aren't comparable. What else am I supposed to be seeing?
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