I was/am a big fan of Fabregas as a player, reminded me so much of Scholes back in the day and to see such a talented player warm the benches at that pathetic club Barca is sad.
The Prem is seriously lacking in midfield talent now that he has left. I mean if you look at the top clubs, they are ALL looking to bring in a world class playmaker, and failing.
Chelsea - Lampard (33 and past it now)
United - Anderson (let's face it, hes not good enough atm)
Arsenal - Ramsey (inexperienced and unproven)
City - Y.Toure (okay they have Silva but he played winger)
Liverpool - Adam ()
Where are all the top class CMs nowadays. Looking aroud the world, and only Barca and Real have the genuine top class playmakers. Ozil, Alonso, Iniesta, Xavi, Fabregas, Thiago looks class etc.
Im sad for reasons different to yours, barcelona and fabregas have bullied arsenal into selling for a price they can afford not what hes worth/what arsenal should have got. You've just got to think that carrol went for 35 million to see that arsenal have a raw deal.
However saying that arsenal are now a weaker side, which is good and imo barcelona are no better, fabregas doesnt improve them but he goves abit more depth and i dont think barca will be as good as last year.
Just because Carroll was MASSIVLEY overpriced, doesnt mean eevry other deal should be compared to it. Fabregas for a deal that will eventually come up to £40mil is about right imo.
Kaka went for £55mil, Zidane for £45mil so Fabregas will be the 3rd most expensive CM/AMC in world football if Im correct.
Having said that, Fabrgeas never bullied Arsenal into selling. He always said he loves Arsenal and would be content on staying and would give 100% every game (unlike ROnaldo who sulked in his last season). Arsene just got fed up with being undermined by Barca so he did the right thing and sold him
i agree U9919 Barcelonas campaign to get Fabregas has been pretty shameful and low but it's worked and no one has punished them for it so they will do it again
When ZZ was sold for £45m it was years ago and the value of that fee today would be circa £100m.
NO way would Zidane be sold for £100mil in today's market.
Ronaldo is the most popular player in the world, marketing wise he is a machine and he was still only 24/25 when Madrid signed him. Zidane was amazing on the pitch, but off the pitch, he doesnt come close to Ronaldo.
Zidane was already 28/29 when he signed for Real and at that age, he wouldve gone for a similar price to Kaka if not a tiny bit more
I have always rated Fabregas. His vision, ball control and composure under pressure are among the best in the world. Saddest thing is league will continue to shrink best players go to La Liga. on the bright side we dont have to worry about Arsenal
isn't that a sad thing though Screen? i would like to have to worry about all the teams in the league it makes victory taste so much sweeter
If I said yes i would be lying. If Arsenal are breathing down our throat at march i'd wish Fabregas to go away
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it's a me Mario
How Barca and Real pursue the best players in all leagues is infuriating. This may sound ridicules but what if every club add a clause in their contract to prevent them from signing to La Liga clubs. Itll protect them against barca and real. It will prevent them from offloading unwanted players to spain but Barca and Real are only after top players and rest of the La liga clubs are skint anyway.
He is a great player, but he belongs where he wants to play....I am not sad to see him leave the PL...all the better for United, (weakens the opposition don`t it?) I would gladly put in our team!!!! Wouldn't care if all the opposition star players went elsewhere... all we should desire is to win... win WIN....in SAF we trust!
We get to see these great players performing elsewhere anyoldhow, so there!
Yes I would prefer to see Faregas in the premier league, but why is it shameful for Barcleona to pay £40m for a player that Arsenal poached from them when he was 16.
he is a great player and will be missed by many fans from other teams not just arsenal,good luck cesc
@ Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
It doesnt matter what Faregas did when he is 16. Cesc is an Arsenal player and the way barca went about it in this deal is utterly disgraceful
Screen,
what is it that you think is disgraceful?
If I were an Arsenal fan I would be upset that he was going, but I would understand that he has given his best for my club, but would prefer to play for the club he supported as a boy, & currently the best club side in the world. Arsenal poached him off Barcelona for nothing, Barcelona are paying £40m. It seems fair to me or even a little harsh on Barcelona
I wouldn't be too sad about it for Arsenal they have made 40 million pure profit. Fabregas gets to warm the bench for his favorite club and you can't deny anyone a chance to do that. Arsenal are worse off, but with shrewd investment it could make them all the stronger because let's be fair we haven't really had to worry about them too much for the last few years with him there.
Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
25m they bought Cesc for not 40m.
@ Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
the way barca went about this deal is disgraceful. If they want a player they should pay the fee and buy him. What if Real wanted Hernadez and everyone in Real keeps making comments on how Hernadez should be at real without paying the required fee?
Screen,
We’re probably arguing semantics. Yes I would be upset if we lost one of our better players & I don’t like how money rules the game, but the player wanted to go & both clubs agreed a price, so I don’t see it as “disgraceful”
Comparisons would be
David Beckham to Real Madrid. I wasn’t happy, but that’s life
Gerard Pique (loads of potential, but not yet the complete player). In a similar to Fabregas, we poached him from Barcelona & he wanted to go home. United understood & a “free” transfer was arranged.
Ronaldo to Real Madrid. Ronaldo’s boyhood club. Again I wasn’t happy, but that’s life. You may argue that at least we got a good price, but as a fan if I had the choice I’d rather have the player than the cash.
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posted on 15/8/11
I was/am a big fan of Fabregas as a player, reminded me so much of Scholes back in the day and to see such a talented player warm the benches at that pathetic club Barca is sad.
The Prem is seriously lacking in midfield talent now that he has left. I mean if you look at the top clubs, they are ALL looking to bring in a world class playmaker, and failing.
Chelsea - Lampard (33 and past it now)
United - Anderson (let's face it, hes not good enough atm)
Arsenal - Ramsey (inexperienced and unproven)
City - Y.Toure (okay they have Silva but he played winger)
Liverpool - Adam ()
Where are all the top class CMs nowadays. Looking aroud the world, and only Barca and Real have the genuine top class playmakers. Ozil, Alonso, Iniesta, Xavi, Fabregas, Thiago looks class etc.
posted on 15/8/11
Im sad for reasons different to yours, barcelona and fabregas have bullied arsenal into selling for a price they can afford not what hes worth/what arsenal should have got. You've just got to think that carrol went for 35 million to see that arsenal have a raw deal.
However saying that arsenal are now a weaker side, which is good and imo barcelona are no better, fabregas doesnt improve them but he goves abit more depth and i dont think barca will be as good as last year.
posted on 15/8/11
Just because Carroll was MASSIVLEY overpriced, doesnt mean eevry other deal should be compared to it. Fabregas for a deal that will eventually come up to £40mil is about right imo.
Kaka went for £55mil, Zidane for £45mil so Fabregas will be the 3rd most expensive CM/AMC in world football if Im correct.
Having said that, Fabrgeas never bullied Arsenal into selling. He always said he loves Arsenal and would be content on staying and would give 100% every game (unlike ROnaldo who sulked in his last season). Arsene just got fed up with being undermined by Barca so he did the right thing and sold him
posted on 15/8/11
i agree U9919 Barcelonas campaign to get Fabregas has been pretty shameful and low but it's worked and no one has punished them for it so they will do it again
posted on 15/8/11
When ZZ was sold for £45m it was years ago and the value of that fee today would be circa £100m.
posted on 15/8/11
NO way would Zidane be sold for £100mil in today's market.
Ronaldo is the most popular player in the world, marketing wise he is a machine and he was still only 24/25 when Madrid signed him. Zidane was amazing on the pitch, but off the pitch, he doesnt come close to Ronaldo.
Zidane was already 28/29 when he signed for Real and at that age, he wouldve gone for a similar price to Kaka if not a tiny bit more
posted on 15/8/11
I have always rated Fabregas. His vision, ball control and composure under pressure are among the best in the world. Saddest thing is league will continue to shrink best players go to La Liga. on the bright side we dont have to worry about Arsenal
posted on 15/8/11
isn't that a sad thing though Screen? i would like to have to worry about all the teams in the league it makes victory taste so much sweeter
posted on 15/8/11
If I said yes i would be lying. If Arsenal are breathing down our throat at march i'd wish Fabregas to go away
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it's a me Mario
posted on 15/8/11
How Barca and Real pursue the best players in all leagues is infuriating. This may sound ridicules but what if every club add a clause in their contract to prevent them from signing to La Liga clubs. Itll protect them against barca and real. It will prevent them from offloading unwanted players to spain but Barca and Real are only after top players and rest of the La liga clubs are skint anyway.
posted on 15/8/11
He is a great player, but he belongs where he wants to play....I am not sad to see him leave the PL...all the better for United, (weakens the opposition don`t it?) I would gladly put in our team!!!! Wouldn't care if all the opposition star players went elsewhere... all we should desire is to win... win WIN....in SAF we trust!
We get to see these great players performing elsewhere anyoldhow, so there!
posted on 15/8/11
Yes I would prefer to see Faregas in the premier league, but why is it shameful for Barcleona to pay £40m for a player that Arsenal poached from them when he was 16.
posted on 15/8/11
he is a great player and will be missed by many fans from other teams not just arsenal,good luck cesc
posted on 15/8/11
@ Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
It doesnt matter what Faregas did when he is 16. Cesc is an Arsenal player and the way barca went about it in this deal is utterly disgraceful
posted on 15/8/11
Screen,
what is it that you think is disgraceful?
If I were an Arsenal fan I would be upset that he was going, but I would understand that he has given his best for my club, but would prefer to play for the club he supported as a boy, & currently the best club side in the world. Arsenal poached him off Barcelona for nothing, Barcelona are paying £40m. It seems fair to me or even a little harsh on Barcelona
posted on 15/8/11
I wouldn't be too sad about it for Arsenal they have made 40 million pure profit. Fabregas gets to warm the bench for his favorite club and you can't deny anyone a chance to do that. Arsenal are worse off, but with shrewd investment it could make them all the stronger because let's be fair we haven't really had to worry about them too much for the last few years with him there.
posted on 15/8/11
Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
25m they bought Cesc for not 40m.
posted on 15/8/11
@ Bring on the Dustbin (U7592)
the way barca went about this deal is disgraceful. If they want a player they should pay the fee and buy him. What if Real wanted Hernadez and everyone in Real keeps making comments on how Hernadez should be at real without paying the required fee?
posted on 16/8/11
Screen,
We’re probably arguing semantics. Yes I would be upset if we lost one of our better players & I don’t like how money rules the game, but the player wanted to go & both clubs agreed a price, so I don’t see it as “disgraceful”
Comparisons would be
David Beckham to Real Madrid. I wasn’t happy, but that’s life
Gerard Pique (loads of potential, but not yet the complete player). In a similar to Fabregas, we poached him from Barcelona & he wanted to go home. United understood & a “free” transfer was arranged.
Ronaldo to Real Madrid. Ronaldo’s boyhood club. Again I wasn’t happy, but that’s life. You may argue that at least we got a good price, but as a fan if I had the choice I’d rather have the player than the cash.
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