Di Canio's wasnt a Názi salute, it was in support of the Italian fascists, still not particularly palatable but very different to a 'Názi' salute
Anelka knows full well what that salute meant and did it anyway, he deserves any ban coming his way
What year did the Gasgoigne and Di Canio incidents happen?
You can't compare a 15 year old punishment to one in the modern game. Football moves on and views on intollerance do.
Don't be dumb. He's your player and all but just don't be dumb.
Boruc got fined for blessing himself, so what Anelka has done is much worse.
While we're at it lets ban players from blessing themselves when they come on to the pitch or Demba Ba for kneeling and praying when he scores a goal
The FA
Was it not the sfa that did that?
Think it was the Police...
Yeah I thought that too but wasn't sure they'd actually go through with it or be so stupid to
Defoe got a yellow card, suarez got 10 games, the fa have jjst upped the punishments.
comment by Ozilla Fireinthebox (U18382)
posted 39 minutes ago
What year did the Gasgoigne and Di Canio incidents happen?
You can't compare a 15 year old punishment to one in the modern game. Football moves on and views on intollerance do.
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Tell Dave Lee Travis that!
comment by Ozilla Fireinthebox (U18382)
posted 40 minutes ago
What year did the Gasgoigne and Di Canio incidents happen?
You can't compare a 15 year old punishment to one in the modern game. Football moves on and views on intollerance do.
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Di Canio's n@zi salute was in 2005. Gazza's was about 15 years ago. Not that relevant as it seems you can be done for crimes comitted in the 60s.
Either way both their gestures were worse than Anelka's!
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
Not that relevant as it seems you can be done for crimes comitted in the 60s.
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Of course it's relavant, they both had whatever punishment was deemed appropriate at the time. You can't charge Anelka 10k because that's what they done 15 years ago.
your argument makes no sense when dlt's case is a legal one for him being accused of paedophilia whereas anelka is FA. Don't be an idiot.
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posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
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it was obvious what Di Canio was doing with his salute, he was doing it to the Lazio Ultras, it was clear it was a pro-fascist salute, which is very different from a názi salute
comment by Andy Carrot (U2440)
posted 11 minutes ago
your argument makes no sense when dlt's case is a legal one for him being accused of paedophilia whereas anelka is FA. Don't be an idiot.
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My point is an offence is an offence no matter when it was committed.
OK, obviously offences carried out 6-15 years ago aren't offensive enough to get a serious ban.
How about David Norris's handcuff celebration in 2008? As bad as Anelka's celebration but did he get a 5-10 game ban?
I seem to remember Tim Cahill doing something similar. Again what punishment did he receive? Salomon Kalou is another.
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posted 16 minutes ago
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
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it was obvious what Di Canio was doing with his salute, he was doing it to the Lazio Ultras, it was clear it was a pro-fascist salute, which is very different from a názi salute
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Do you really think Italian Fascism has nothing to do with racism You obviously no nothing of Italian history!
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
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it was obvious what Di Canio was doing with his salute, he was doing it to the Lazio Ultras, it was clear it was a pro-fascist salute, which is very different from a názi salute
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Do you really think Italian Fascism has nothing to do with racismYou obviously no nothing of Italian history!
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i know plenty of Italian history thanks very much, in the very first post i put on this thread, i said it was wrong, but Italian Fascism is very different to the ideologies of the German Názi party, so its not a Názi salute
So deporting Jews to N@zi concentration camps means they had a different ideology?
Oh yeah, I see your point
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 6 seconds ago
So deporting Jews to N@zi concentration camps means they had a different ideology?
Oh yeah, I see your point
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im sorry i didnt realise Di Canio was doing these salutes in 1944, Italian Fascism is very different now to what is was 70 years ago, its more anti-capitalist than anything, if youre going to argue at least get clued up on some facts, youve really made yourself look a right tít on this thread so far
Ha, ha! I'm not clued up. You're the one who seems to think the Ultras aren't racist!
Try reading this ignoramus:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/21/sport/football/italian-football-racism-milan/
It's got some big words in it so I don't mind if it takes you a while!
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posted on 23/1/14
Di Canio's wasnt a Názi salute, it was in support of the Italian fascists, still not particularly palatable but very different to a 'Názi' salute
Anelka knows full well what that salute meant and did it anyway, he deserves any ban coming his way
posted on 23/1/14
What year did the Gasgoigne and Di Canio incidents happen?
You can't compare a 15 year old punishment to one in the modern game. Football moves on and views on intollerance do.
posted on 23/1/14
Don't be dumb. He's your player and all but just don't be dumb.
posted on 23/1/14
Boruc got fined for blessing himself, so what Anelka has done is much worse.
posted on 23/1/14
While we're at it lets ban players from blessing themselves when they come on to the pitch or Demba Ba for kneeling and praying when he scores a goal
The FA
posted on 23/1/14
Was it not the sfa that did that?
posted on 23/1/14
Think it was the Police...
posted on 23/1/14
Yeah I thought that too but wasn't sure they'd actually go through with it or be so stupid to
posted on 23/1/14
Defoe got a yellow card, suarez got 10 games, the fa have jjst upped the punishments.
posted on 23/1/14
rightly so too
posted on 23/1/14
comment by Ozilla Fireinthebox (U18382)
posted 39 minutes ago
What year did the Gasgoigne and Di Canio incidents happen?
You can't compare a 15 year old punishment to one in the modern game. Football moves on and views on intollerance do.
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Tell Dave Lee Travis that!
posted on 23/1/14
comment by Ozilla Fireinthebox (U18382)
posted 40 minutes ago
What year did the Gasgoigne and Di Canio incidents happen?
You can't compare a 15 year old punishment to one in the modern game. Football moves on and views on intollerance do.
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Di Canio's n@zi salute was in 2005. Gazza's was about 15 years ago. Not that relevant as it seems you can be done for crimes comitted in the 60s.
Either way both their gestures were worse than Anelka's!
posted on 23/1/14
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
posted on 23/1/14
Not that relevant as it seems you can be done for crimes comitted in the 60s.
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Of course it's relavant, they both had whatever punishment was deemed appropriate at the time. You can't charge Anelka 10k because that's what they done 15 years ago.
posted on 23/1/14
your argument makes no sense when dlt's case is a legal one for him being accused of paedophilia whereas anelka is FA. Don't be an idiot.
posted on 23/1/14
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
posted on 23/1/14
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
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it was obvious what Di Canio was doing with his salute, he was doing it to the Lazio Ultras, it was clear it was a pro-fascist salute, which is very different from a názi salute
posted on 23/1/14
comment by Andy Carrot (U2440)
posted 11 minutes ago
your argument makes no sense when dlt's case is a legal one for him being accused of paedophilia whereas anelka is FA. Don't be an idiot.
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My point is an offence is an offence no matter when it was committed.
posted on 23/1/14
OK, obviously offences carried out 6-15 years ago aren't offensive enough to get a serious ban.
How about David Norris's handcuff celebration in 2008? As bad as Anelka's celebration but did he get a 5-10 game ban?
I seem to remember Tim Cahill doing something similar. Again what punishment did he receive? Salomon Kalou is another.
posted on 23/1/14
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
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it was obvious what Di Canio was doing with his salute, he was doing it to the Lazio Ultras, it was clear it was a pro-fascist salute, which is very different from a názi salute
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Do you really think Italian Fascism has nothing to do with racism You obviously no nothing of Italian history!
posted on 23/1/14
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by What's the Mata you, HEY! It's a not so bad, It's a nice-a place, ah shaddap-a you face! - The artist formerly known as Mex (U6687)
posted 27 minutes ago
how were they worse than Anelka's?
Di Canio's salute was in support of the Italian Fascist party, not the German Názi's
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Di Canio CLAIMED it wasn't a N@zi salute just like Anelka claims his was just anti establishment. Even the French authorities have admitted that the Quenelle is "too vague" to outlaw.
Gascoigne's was blatant bigotry which incited violence and resulted in him receiving death threats.
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it was obvious what Di Canio was doing with his salute, he was doing it to the Lazio Ultras, it was clear it was a pro-fascist salute, which is very different from a názi salute
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Do you really think Italian Fascism has nothing to do with racismYou obviously no nothing of Italian history!
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i know plenty of Italian history thanks very much, in the very first post i put on this thread, i said it was wrong, but Italian Fascism is very different to the ideologies of the German Názi party, so its not a Názi salute
posted on 23/1/14
So deporting Jews to N@zi concentration camps means they had a different ideology?
Oh yeah, I see your point
posted on 23/1/14
comment by cox-in-the-box (U1363)
posted 6 seconds ago
So deporting Jews to N@zi concentration camps means they had a different ideology?
Oh yeah, I see your point
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im sorry i didnt realise Di Canio was doing these salutes in 1944, Italian Fascism is very different now to what is was 70 years ago, its more anti-capitalist than anything, if youre going to argue at least get clued up on some facts, youve really made yourself look a right tít on this thread so far
posted on 23/1/14
Ha, ha! I'm not clued up. You're the one who seems to think the Ultras aren't racist!
posted on 23/1/14
Try reading this ignoramus:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/21/sport/football/italian-football-racism-milan/
It's got some big words in it so I don't mind if it takes you a while!
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