Watched him play for England u21s a couple of times before his injury, everyone's raving about Ravel but I think Carroll will have the better career. Hopefully with us
<OK> Agree, he seems to have a bit of class about him!
I think thats the match Baldini was at...probably why it looks like he's being recalled. Cover for Eriksen whilst Holtby is loaned or sold
I really hope Carroll succeeds at spurs. He has a picture of the way the game should be played, pass and move, look for openings, take the ball under pressure.
Even though his tackling and all round game seems to be improving i just cant see him starting for Spurs unless we play a midfield three.
Carroll has a lot of ability and the loan has been good for him in terms of improving the physical side. Interestingly, he sees himself more as a deep lying playmaker rather than an attacking mid...similar to Holtby in that respect
I think I remember reading that he based his game on Modric and to a certain extent it shows
Modric was the perfect role model for him, you can definitely see the similarities in style and how they affect a game. If he keeps developing he'll be a hell of a player
Up until now he hasn't been massively popular with the QPR fans from what I've heard.
Redknapp though has picked him pretty regularly, and performances like this hopefully suggest he has the talent to make it. It'd be great if he made it with us.
I would not be getting too excited, he looks no different to a lot of our other very average players in a similar position.
It's just good to see a youth player coming through - it just doesn't seem to happen in the top 6 these days.
To be honest, isn't that the kind of role Benteleb is playing? He's 'dictating' play from fairly deep, is always available and releases the ball very quickly.
Unfortunately Benteleb seems fairly incapable of passing outside of 5 yards from what I've seen.
comment by Huddlestone's Afro - Rock you like a HurriKane! (U15375)
posted 28 minutes ago
It's just good to see a youth player coming through - it just doesn't seem to happen in the top 6 these days.
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Bentaleb, Sterling, Coleman, Barkley, Janaziaiaufaa?
Doovode - it's still fairly rare. Players who 'broke' through for Spurs in the last 20 years (for example) include only King, O'Hara, Livermore and Caulker (and only one of those was deemed good enough for the Spurs squad). I can't think of anyone else really and it's a fairly sad indictment of the Spurs academy.
Benteleb was bought in a few years ago.
Yes Townsend, you're right. Random rumour that he's off to Man U for £20million today ...
comment by A Ginger Tottenham Tinge (U10525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Doovode - it's still fairly rare. Players who 'broke' through for Spurs in the last 20 years (for example) include only King, O'Hara, Livermore and Caulker (and only one of those was deemed good enough for the Spurs squad). I can't think of anyone else really and it's a fairly sad indictment of the Spurs academy.
Benteleb was bought in a few years ago.
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Totally agree! It reflects the bigger problemt that we have in the UK - clubs would rather spend money on a young foreign player when they have an academy full of players looking for a chance.
A lot of clubs, including ourselves, seem to see the academy as a commercial opportunity. Bring lads on and sell them, just keep the occasional one if he's exceptional.
The quest for instant success these days doesn't give them much chance...even when we bring in 21 year olds from outside they're expected to perform from Day 1
I highly doubt next year is make or break for him btw. Players like Carroll are always at their best at their end of their career as they don't rely on athleticism. Instead he relies on patience and experience of how to read the game.
Now I know he is no where near as good as these players, but the likes of xavi, Pirlo Ritc all peaked late in their twenties. Which is what often happens to a deeper lying playmaker.
Carroll will only continue to get better.
On that case carroll won't be with us long. Look at the snap judgements we make on young players like Holtby and Lamela, similar age to Carroll but we expect miracles of them. Until we, and the players, realise we're buying for the future then we will always be disappointed when they don't meet our unrealistic expectations
Yeah, they all care about the 'now'. However noone in our team really wants to stay together for a couple of years so that they can go from strength to strength.
Facking annoying.
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posted on 31/1/14
Watched him play for England u21s a couple of times before his injury, everyone's raving about Ravel but I think Carroll will have the better career. Hopefully with us
posted on 31/1/14
<OK> Agree, he seems to have a bit of class about him!
posted on 31/1/14
I think thats the match Baldini was at...probably why it looks like he's being recalled. Cover for Eriksen whilst Holtby is loaned or sold
posted on 31/1/14
I really hope Carroll succeeds at spurs. He has a picture of the way the game should be played, pass and move, look for openings, take the ball under pressure.
Even though his tackling and all round game seems to be improving i just cant see him starting for Spurs unless we play a midfield three.
posted on 31/1/14
Carroll has a lot of ability and the loan has been good for him in terms of improving the physical side. Interestingly, he sees himself more as a deep lying playmaker rather than an attacking mid...similar to Holtby in that respect
posted on 31/1/14
I think I remember reading that he based his game on Modric and to a certain extent it shows
posted on 31/1/14
Modric was the perfect role model for him, you can definitely see the similarities in style and how they affect a game. If he keeps developing he'll be a hell of a player
posted on 31/1/14
Up until now he hasn't been massively popular with the QPR fans from what I've heard.
Redknapp though has picked him pretty regularly, and performances like this hopefully suggest he has the talent to make it. It'd be great if he made it with us.
posted on 31/1/14
I would not be getting too excited, he looks no different to a lot of our other very average players in a similar position.
posted on 31/1/14
It's just good to see a youth player coming through - it just doesn't seem to happen in the top 6 these days.
posted on 31/1/14
To be honest, isn't that the kind of role Benteleb is playing? He's 'dictating' play from fairly deep, is always available and releases the ball very quickly.
Unfortunately Benteleb seems fairly incapable of passing outside of 5 yards from what I've seen.
posted on 31/1/14
comment by Huddlestone's Afro - Rock you like a HurriKane! (U15375)
posted 28 minutes ago
It's just good to see a youth player coming through - it just doesn't seem to happen in the top 6 these days.
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Bentaleb, Sterling, Coleman, Barkley, Janaziaiaufaa?
posted on 31/1/14
Doovode - it's still fairly rare. Players who 'broke' through for Spurs in the last 20 years (for example) include only King, O'Hara, Livermore and Caulker (and only one of those was deemed good enough for the Spurs squad). I can't think of anyone else really and it's a fairly sad indictment of the Spurs academy.
Benteleb was bought in a few years ago.
posted on 31/1/14
^
Townsend ....
posted on 31/1/14
Yes Townsend, you're right. Random rumour that he's off to Man U for £20million today ...
posted on 31/1/14
comment by A Ginger Tottenham Tinge (U10525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Doovode - it's still fairly rare. Players who 'broke' through for Spurs in the last 20 years (for example) include only King, O'Hara, Livermore and Caulker (and only one of those was deemed good enough for the Spurs squad). I can't think of anyone else really and it's a fairly sad indictment of the Spurs academy.
Benteleb was bought in a few years ago.
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Totally agree! It reflects the bigger problemt that we have in the UK - clubs would rather spend money on a young foreign player when they have an academy full of players looking for a chance.
posted on 31/1/14
A lot of clubs, including ourselves, seem to see the academy as a commercial opportunity. Bring lads on and sell them, just keep the occasional one if he's exceptional.
The quest for instant success these days doesn't give them much chance...even when we bring in 21 year olds from outside they're expected to perform from Day 1
posted on 31/1/14
I highly doubt next year is make or break for him btw. Players like Carroll are always at their best at their end of their career as they don't rely on athleticism. Instead he relies on patience and experience of how to read the game.
Now I know he is no where near as good as these players, but the likes of xavi, Pirlo Ritc all peaked late in their twenties. Which is what often happens to a deeper lying playmaker.
Carroll will only continue to get better.
posted on 31/1/14
On that case carroll won't be with us long. Look at the snap judgements we make on young players like Holtby and Lamela, similar age to Carroll but we expect miracles of them. Until we, and the players, realise we're buying for the future then we will always be disappointed when they don't meet our unrealistic expectations
posted on 31/1/14
*in
posted on 31/1/14
Yeah, they all care about the 'now'. However noone in our team really wants to stay together for a couple of years so that they can go from strength to strength.
Facking annoying.
posted on 31/1/14
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