Oh yeah, as for solbakken, he gets plenty of criticism also, but again, that doesn't fit with your argument does it.

As I have said before, my defence of solbakken is that we should not have sacked him when we did, as things got worse not better.

comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 21 minutes ago

As I have said before, my defence of solbakken is that we should not have sacked him when we did, as things got worse not better.
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Same could be said about McCarthy's sacking.

Interesting that you accuse another poster of belittling people whilst you have stated that all posters that disagree with you are talking bullsh*t.

comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)

bute even suggesting mick had no involvement in our relegation,
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I said Mick didn't relegate Wolves, and never has done. A bit of a difference. There was plenty of time for things to improve, (it was only February), and I, like others, felt McCarthy was the man to keep Wolves up. From memory, I recall that Wolves had only been in the RELEGATION ZONE, as you put it, only once during the whole season.

My fears, that things would deteriorate with the dismissal of McCarthy, were sadly proved prophetic, as the club went on to start its tumble down the leagues.

And agreed tam. Hence I have never agreed with the timing of the dismissal

But here again, I do disagree with those that say we couldn't have done better than mick, we could have, we chose not to for whatever reasons Morgan decided to screw up. TC should have gone with mick, not stuck around to be shown zero respect by the players he had coached for so long.

Usual insulting stuff from you Cinci but hey it's everyone else not you isn't it. What on earth you mean by comments being inconvenient I guess only you will understand.

But at least it's good to see you agree with Tams point that you belittle other people and state that everyone that disagrees with you is talking bullsh't.

I don't see the point of Cinci bringing this up yet again, especially mentioning my name. He might wonder why people like me, are not posting quite so much. Dominating threads, and being hypocritical in criticising other peoples posts whilst posting nonsense himself, is not endearing.

Didn't bring it up Bute, check the thread

But as its a forum for sharing views, i responded to the comments made, is that OK?

Where are the insults DJ, claiming the argument is bullshít you mean? Maybe if any one of you conceded just one point then we wouldn't have these arguments, but that will never happen.

Even Perton, despite his muppet mick nonsense has no issue acknowledging the good work mick has done, likewise Wolfie and myself, bloody hell, i didn't even want Mick sacked til about November time.

But will we ever see any of you concede that Mick made numerous errors and failed at certain aspects of the job? Will we bollócks!!

You choose to focus on every fault you can find about McCarthy, I choose to remember him as the best manager we have had in the last thirty years and give the justified respect that goes with that.
Sorry if that isn't convenient to you, whatever that means

I do wonder if Wolfie and Cinci are the same person at times.

comment by Cinciwolf (U11551)
posted 8 hours, 32 minutes ago
Even Perton, despite his muppet mick nonsense has no issue acknowledging the good work mick has done,

When did he acknowledge the good work, Cinci? Must have missed this! The last comment that I saw from perton, he was dismissing, not the last two years, but three years of Wolves' history so that would include Mick's second season in the Prem .

For what it's worth, my view is that Mick made numerous errors during his tenure at Wolves. Which one of us doesn't in our work! However there is no disputing the fact that he got more right than wrong, hence promotion to the Prem as champions and staying there for three seasons for the ONLY time in our history.
He was sacked at the wrong time, as subsequent events have shown. Whether he should have gone sooner or later is a moot point. He didn't!
He will go down as one of the best managers in Wolves' history. Compared with his successors (Connor, Solbakken and Saunders) Mick's stock has risen further. Look what a clusterf22k they made of working under the same regime and conditions at Wolves!

I am pleased that our slide has been halted by Jackett and we look odds on to be promoted this season. This was to have been expected and the real work starts next season. Jackett has started well and built up a large proportion of goodwill amongst the Wolves fan base, however this is at a much lower level than Mick was working and he has got a good way to go to be compared with McCarthy. I hope he makes it, but remain sceptical that he will get us to the Prem in the next 3 or 4 years. Truly hope that I am being overly pessimistic, but time will tell.

comment by Don't Mention M̶̷i̶̷c̶̷k̶̷ ̶̷M̶̷c̶̷C̶̷a̶̷r̶̷t̶̷h̶̷y̶̷ (U16473)
posted 6 hours, 35 minutes ago
I do wonder if Wolfie and Cinci are the same person at times.
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Wincey

Cinci dominating threads with bane comments that flow from one thing to another and then back around again an hour later?

Banding abuse around saying people who disagree with him are talking like the poopy of the Bull?

Never.

I agree with everything you said there Cyp.

No one has ever said Mick didn't make mistakes. People have even agreed that he made some poor signings. However, everyone else seems to look at the bigger picture and other factors such as wage budgets and overall spend. You just need to look at the players Mick targeted and we missed out on for those reasons to acknowledge this was also a factor and inhibited us in the transfer market.

Cinci ignores all of this and places the blame solely with Mick. Anyone who brings these factors up is talking bullsh*t. Maybe he could have done better with the money he spent, but no one can argue he wasn't restricted. I also bet that there was not one person on here who did think Johnson and O'Hara were good signings and would help move the club forward. No one could have predicted the impact they actually had.

I will continue to remember Mick fondly for all the good he did. If Cinci chooses to do the opposite then that's his problem. Personally, I think that's a bit sad. I warned him that he was turning into Perton earlier, well now he is even defending Perton I think he's a lost cause.

Whole-heartedly agree - especially the reference to the "seeing the bigger picture". Perhaps that's the main difference. Some folk don't have that ability.

When McCarthy was sacked we were 18th in the top flight. No other manager had taken us to a higher position than that since 1980. So even if we forget the turn around he made in his first season, and forget the championship winning season, and forget him taking us to 15th in his first season for us in the premier league, and forget keeping us in there for a third season, he was still our best manager in a generation.

And until we find someone that does better I will continue to recognise that achievement

You guys talk about MM more than we do and he's our club legend!