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Bad news for Derby fans taken the shine off yesterday.
Good measured response Hoons, regarding injuries though I think you have to be responsible for the resiliency of your squad. The team that Billy put out should have been more than capable of playing the compact defensive game Billy instructed them to do.
I think your squad has been too heavily reliant on Reid and Lansbury and Billy has failed to add to the squad through loans or signings to cover this. The other option would be to motivate the squad players you have and his constant recycling of the injuries excuse is not a great motivator.
Had he said something like 'we've got lot's of injuries but I have every faith in the squad to come out and deliver the standard of football that is expected from us' it might have been better.
It surprises me cos I always thought Billy's strength was getting the best out of average players.
Like you said if you could sneak a few results with the team you have and get some players fit and on form again you could make the playoffs and better.
From personal experience I'm not sure what I'd be more scared of Billy in the Premiership or firing him now and dealing with the fallout.
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I'll agree with that Hoons.
Only thing I would say is that Fawaz needs to get Billy to sort out this local media fiasco as it is starting to hurt Billy badly.
The whole media fiasco is an embarrassment SBD. I got what Billy was trying to achieve to start with, the whole "us against the world" mentality, but it's turned into a one man crusade, with all the troops sat in the background with their heads in their hands, trying to disassociate themselves with their lunatic self-obsessed leader!
Surely the point is that Billy, in his careless expenditure on too many indifferent players, left no cash or patience in FAH's locker to get good, but maybe expensive loans in to fill in behind his admittedly numerous injuries. That is not bad luck, it's bad management.
Agree with this but NFFC can't keep using injuries as an excuse. We have enough talent at the club not to have been totally humiliated yesterday. Following recent performances I actually didn't expect us to win yesterday but neither did I expect the appalling display witnessed by everyone who tuned in. Something is seriously wrong and it needs addressing sooner rather than later. We are a disgrace & a laughing stock both on & off the pitch
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Moussi should be embarrassed after the performances he puts in for Forest. He would not get a regular position in any Championship club. He's league one standard at best.
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comment by Ramdini (U6565)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Surely the point is that Billy, in his careless expenditure on too many indifferent players, left no cash or patience in FAH's locker to get good, but maybe expensive loans in to fill in behind his admittedly numerous injuries. That is not bad luck, it's bad management.
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Never thought it would happen. Pains me to do it, but............ I agree!!!
comment by ir-REV-erend (U18331)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
Why do we even bother opening up such a debate with Derby supporters
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Just wanted to get my view across Rev. Can't really see how posting my views on Forest on the Forest board is 'opening up a debate with Derby'.
Ramdini, you could be right but on the other hand getting a loanee to replace say Reid or Lansbury you would need to be looking at lower end Premiership players. It would be very difficult and yes expensive to bring a player on a three month loan when the loan player himself knows that he will be on the bench as soon as the injured player is fit.
comment by Hoons (U5327)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by ir-REV-erend (U18331)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
Why do we even bother opening up such a debate with Derby supporters
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Just wanted to get my view across Rev. Can't really see how posting my views on Forest on the Forest board is 'opening up a debate with Derby'.
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Er....Rev.....I think Hoons mis-understood - you were having a pop at me - I will now desist and leave you all in your private grief
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posted on 23/3/14
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posted on 23/3/14
Bad news for Derby fans taken the shine off yesterday.
Good measured response Hoons, regarding injuries though I think you have to be responsible for the resiliency of your squad. The team that Billy put out should have been more than capable of playing the compact defensive game Billy instructed them to do.
I think your squad has been too heavily reliant on Reid and Lansbury and Billy has failed to add to the squad through loans or signings to cover this. The other option would be to motivate the squad players you have and his constant recycling of the injuries excuse is not a great motivator.
Had he said something like 'we've got lot's of injuries but I have every faith in the squad to come out and deliver the standard of football that is expected from us' it might have been better.
It surprises me cos I always thought Billy's strength was getting the best out of average players.
Like you said if you could sneak a few results with the team you have and get some players fit and on form again you could make the playoffs and better.
From personal experience I'm not sure what I'd be more scared of Billy in the Premiership or firing him now and dealing with the fallout.
posted on 23/3/14
Well said, Hoons.
posted on 23/3/14
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posted on 23/3/14
I'll agree with that Hoons.
Only thing I would say is that Fawaz needs to get Billy to sort out this local media fiasco as it is starting to hurt Billy badly.
posted on 23/3/14
The whole media fiasco is an embarrassment SBD. I got what Billy was trying to achieve to start with, the whole "us against the world" mentality, but it's turned into a one man crusade, with all the troops sat in the background with their heads in their hands, trying to disassociate themselves with their lunatic self-obsessed leader!
posted on 23/3/14
Surely the point is that Billy, in his careless expenditure on too many indifferent players, left no cash or patience in FAH's locker to get good, but maybe expensive loans in to fill in behind his admittedly numerous injuries. That is not bad luck, it's bad management.
posted on 23/3/14
Agree with this but NFFC can't keep using injuries as an excuse. We have enough talent at the club not to have been totally humiliated yesterday. Following recent performances I actually didn't expect us to win yesterday but neither did I expect the appalling display witnessed by everyone who tuned in. Something is seriously wrong and it needs addressing sooner rather than later. We are a disgrace & a laughing stock both on & off the pitch
posted on 23/3/14
Completely agree Hoons
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posted on 23/3/14
Moussi should be embarrassed after the performances he puts in for Forest. He would not get a regular position in any Championship club. He's league one standard at best.
posted on 23/3/14
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posted on 23/3/14
comment by Ramdini (U6565)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Surely the point is that Billy, in his careless expenditure on too many indifferent players, left no cash or patience in FAH's locker to get good, but maybe expensive loans in to fill in behind his admittedly numerous injuries. That is not bad luck, it's bad management.
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Never thought it would happen. Pains me to do it, but............ I agree!!!
posted on 23/3/14
comment by ir-REV-erend (U18331)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
Why do we even bother opening up such a debate with Derby supporters
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Just wanted to get my view across Rev. Can't really see how posting my views on Forest on the Forest board is 'opening up a debate with Derby'.
posted on 23/3/14
Ramdini, you could be right but on the other hand getting a loanee to replace say Reid or Lansbury you would need to be looking at lower end Premiership players. It would be very difficult and yes expensive to bring a player on a three month loan when the loan player himself knows that he will be on the bench as soon as the injured player is fit.
posted on 23/3/14
comment by Hoons (U5327)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by ir-REV-erend (U18331)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
Why do we even bother opening up such a debate with Derby supporters
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Just wanted to get my view across Rev. Can't really see how posting my views on Forest on the Forest board is 'opening up a debate with Derby'.
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Er....Rev.....I think Hoons mis-understood - you were having a pop at me - I will now desist and leave you all in your private grief
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