what did he say about conceding 17 goals against 3 teams?
This is true but was said before this seasons drubbings,if wenger knew the time was now then,he would have used the 2 windows since to prove it
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To be fair he makes good points and it's nice to see someone in the media with such a levelled view.
That said, last summer was the time to push on with other teams changing managers and the stockpile of money we have
With one hand AW gave us Ozil, with the other he failed to sign a striker....
Then he compounded the misery by buying an injured midfield player
I have heard all sides of the story and in the end it was just rank bad management again
I could go on, but you get the general idea
Time for a change
He is nearly right. The new finance deals were done and money was available last year but they messed up getting a decent striker. The failure to sign a decent striker last summer was a bigger step for me questioning Wenger than 3 big results against us this season. And add that the only player we paid for wasn't completed until the last day of the transfer window.
Can anyone give me a good reason why Wenger did not push the boat out and use the money that Gazidis confirmed was available to get the desperately needed striker in time to have preseason with us and bed into the team rather than leave it until the last minute with a fiasco and fack it all up?
Or why we didn't buy someone in January when the board were prepared to pay the money?
That's why I'm questioning Wenger.
exactly hippo, hes done an admirable job but their wage bill reflects 4th should be their minimum, to prove hes still a top manager he should have overacheived and won something especially in the past five years when the cash hasnt been as curtailed.
All the teams that have won the league post invincible era were outspending Arsenal. We got thrashed and humiliated but we cant have the cake and eat it. Yes the top 4 is not a trophy but how many teams are dreaming of it. People try to play it down but look at how long and how much extra Liverpool spent before this season to get there. Wenger in that was a genius with the likes of Eboue, Denilson Gervinho etc to get where we were. He deserves a statue and I admire what he has done. He has stabilised the club,has made us into a bigger club though without a trophy (we are sick and tired of hearing this, some of our neighbours boast are so ashamed that they cant even boast of the Carling Cup), but can he take us further? No if we keep Giroud and yes if we add to Ozil and get a quality CM for arteta and flamini (Cesc......if wishes were horses)
Neville might be a decent pundit but he knows very little when it comes to our financial situation.
comment by Hippo on Toast (mufc) - follow the new ja606 twitter @jalob_official (U1301)
posted 39 minutes ago
the thing is though how high would the net spend be if all the players arsene wanted to keep hadn't left.
rvp,nasri, fabregas, cole, hleb, adebayor, clichy were all players arsene did not want to lose i think. that really distorts the net spend.
and also there were loads of time where wenger could have spent money and won things but he chose not to. therefore that was bad management.
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Well if them players had stayed then he wouldn't have spent anything, since he wouldn't have gone out for replacements . And no suggestion that the money was there. Hands were always restricted.
But moving on, this season thrashings suggest something bad. Not even a relegation team gets battered so hard, because a manger is replaced before anything worse can happen. But I don't know with Wenger, I'm kind of torn in between whether I want him to stay or go. Guess the fear of turning into utd is too much, but gotta have to take risks. This team is on paper the third best in the land, so any world class manager could get something good out of it. Hopefully FA cup win this season will be the start.
Meh, in the last 9 years Arsenal season ticket holders spent over 20 grand in each on attending Arsenal football matches..what about that?
In the mean time Arsenal share holders made millions in the same time selling their shares, for example Lady Nina..
Even the worst PL teams don't get thrashed like we do
I agree with Gary Neville (rubs tongue with cheese grater)
Wenger's achieved something incredible
goonertic and others, do you really believe that Wenger just didn't try to sign a striker in those windows?
Do you put it ALL down to character flaws?
If he tried and failed, I want to know why he failed
That's a fair question
Newcastle got Remy, Monaco got Berbatov
To name just two easily get able players
For sure, Arsene is a shrewd businessman.
He is happy to spend £40 odd million on Ozil because the player will prove his worth.
And all the fans here moaning about striker in january window, he will not buy just to please fans. .there was nothing good available..at Chelsea we have same problem.
Wenger also tried to buy Daxler desperately so all you fans just shut up blaming wenger because he didnt buyyyou a striker.
He could have bought a striker but it could have turned into 5-6 goals striker sitting on your wage bill.
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Wenger has done so many things right even during our trophy drought and personally the lack of shiny things has never and still doesn't bother me.
On the flip side he's done a lot of things wrong and arguably the wrongs probably for the first time are starting to outweigh the rights.
Time for Arsene to either step up or move on as (unlike in the past) we really have no excuse not to be competing with the best.
If he tried and failed, I want to know why he failed
That's a fair question
Newcastle got Remy, Monaco got Berbatov
To name just two easily get able players
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its called planning something our club when it comes to transfers has no idea, we had an entire month to sign a striker what happens we bid on the last day in the last few hrs to save money & see if we can get a bargain however in regards to the other team how are they supposed to get a replacement than.
and also there were loads of time where wenger could have spent money and won things but he chose not to. therefore that was bad management.
Hippo strikes again with half truths. There wasnt money available in all these years.
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posted on 24/3/14
what did he say about conceding 17 goals against 3 teams?
posted on 24/3/14
This is true but was said before this seasons drubbings,if wenger knew the time was now then,he would have used the 2 windows since to prove it
posted on 24/3/14
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 24/3/14
To be fair he makes good points and it's nice to see someone in the media with such a levelled view.
That said, last summer was the time to push on with other teams changing managers and the stockpile of money we have
With one hand AW gave us Ozil, with the other he failed to sign a striker....
Then he compounded the misery by buying an injured midfield player
I have heard all sides of the story and in the end it was just rank bad management again
I could go on, but you get the general idea
Time for a change
posted on 24/3/14
He is nearly right. The new finance deals were done and money was available last year but they messed up getting a decent striker. The failure to sign a decent striker last summer was a bigger step for me questioning Wenger than 3 big results against us this season. And add that the only player we paid for wasn't completed until the last day of the transfer window.
Can anyone give me a good reason why Wenger did not push the boat out and use the money that Gazidis confirmed was available to get the desperately needed striker in time to have preseason with us and bed into the team rather than leave it until the last minute with a fiasco and fack it all up?
Or why we didn't buy someone in January when the board were prepared to pay the money?
That's why I'm questioning Wenger.
posted on 24/3/14
exactly hippo, hes done an admirable job but their wage bill reflects 4th should be their minimum, to prove hes still a top manager he should have overacheived and won something especially in the past five years when the cash hasnt been as curtailed.
posted on 24/3/14
All the teams that have won the league post invincible era were outspending Arsenal. We got thrashed and humiliated but we cant have the cake and eat it. Yes the top 4 is not a trophy but how many teams are dreaming of it. People try to play it down but look at how long and how much extra Liverpool spent before this season to get there. Wenger in that was a genius with the likes of Eboue, Denilson Gervinho etc to get where we were. He deserves a statue and I admire what he has done. He has stabilised the club,has made us into a bigger club though without a trophy (we are sick and tired of hearing this, some of our neighbours boast are so ashamed that they cant even boast of the Carling Cup), but can he take us further? No if we keep Giroud and yes if we add to Ozil and get a quality CM for arteta and flamini (Cesc......if wishes were horses)
posted on 24/3/14
Neville might be a decent pundit but he knows very little when it comes to our financial situation.
posted on 24/3/14
comment by Hippo on Toast (mufc) - follow the new ja606 twitter @jalob_official (U1301)
posted 39 minutes ago
the thing is though how high would the net spend be if all the players arsene wanted to keep hadn't left.
rvp,nasri, fabregas, cole, hleb, adebayor, clichy were all players arsene did not want to lose i think. that really distorts the net spend.
and also there were loads of time where wenger could have spent money and won things but he chose not to. therefore that was bad management.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well if them players had stayed then he wouldn't have spent anything, since he wouldn't have gone out for replacements . And no suggestion that the money was there. Hands were always restricted.
But moving on, this season thrashings suggest something bad. Not even a relegation team gets battered so hard, because a manger is replaced before anything worse can happen. But I don't know with Wenger, I'm kind of torn in between whether I want him to stay or go. Guess the fear of turning into utd is too much, but gotta have to take risks. This team is on paper the third best in the land, so any world class manager could get something good out of it. Hopefully FA cup win this season will be the start.
posted on 24/3/14
Meh, in the last 9 years Arsenal season ticket holders spent over 20 grand in each on attending Arsenal football matches..what about that?
In the mean time Arsenal share holders made millions in the same time selling their shares, for example Lady Nina..
posted on 24/3/14
Even the worst PL teams don't get thrashed like we do
posted on 24/3/14
I agree with Gary Neville (rubs tongue with cheese grater)
Wenger's achieved something incredible
posted on 24/3/14
goonertic and others, do you really believe that Wenger just didn't try to sign a striker in those windows?
Do you put it ALL down to character flaws?
posted on 24/3/14
If he tried and failed, I want to know why he failed
That's a fair question
Newcastle got Remy, Monaco got Berbatov
To name just two easily get able players
posted on 24/3/14
For sure, Arsene is a shrewd businessman.
He is happy to spend £40 odd million on Ozil because the player will prove his worth.
And all the fans here moaning about striker in january window, he will not buy just to please fans. .there was nothing good available..at Chelsea we have same problem.
Wenger also tried to buy Daxler desperately so all you fans just shut up blaming wenger because he didnt buyyyou a striker.
He could have bought a striker but it could have turned into 5-6 goals striker sitting on your wage bill.
posted on 24/3/14
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posted on 25/3/14
Wenger has done so many things right even during our trophy drought and personally the lack of shiny things has never and still doesn't bother me.
On the flip side he's done a lot of things wrong and arguably the wrongs probably for the first time are starting to outweigh the rights.
Time for Arsene to either step up or move on as (unlike in the past) we really have no excuse not to be competing with the best.
posted on 25/3/14
If he tried and failed, I want to know why he failed
That's a fair question
Newcastle got Remy, Monaco got Berbatov
To name just two easily get able players
___
its called planning something our club when it comes to transfers has no idea, we had an entire month to sign a striker what happens we bid on the last day in the last few hrs to save money & see if we can get a bargain however in regards to the other team how are they supposed to get a replacement than.
posted on 25/3/14
and also there were loads of time where wenger could have spent money and won things but he chose not to. therefore that was bad management.
Hippo strikes again with half truths. There wasnt money available in all these years.
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