"The points totals this season are more to do with the increasing gap between the top 7 and the rest, rather than reflective of the ability of the top 7 in comparison to previous seasons."
The top 7 this season have been quite meh.
But the bottom 10 have been really poor.
That is the reason for the state of play in the PL this season.
comment by KentSpur (U11208)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
If we get 72 points it shows just how weak this league is
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Everyone outside of the top 7 have been rubbish really, we're looking at teams staying up with 33-34 points.
I think the difference is in the way teams at the top are approaching games. We are seeing teams being blown away by attacking sides.
Only Liverpool and City.
United, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton have hardly been blowing away all the crap teams - they've just been beating them regularly, with the odd pasting.
Arsenal were for most of the season and have been for years. Their problem has been against the top sides. Spurs have been also, for the most part. Chelsea were until recently too.
None of those teams have been blowing away teams at the bottom of the league, bar the odd thrashing.
Do we have the stats for PL results this season where the end GD was 4 and above ??
I'd wager that nearly all of them were caused by the Poool / <Citeh> / Chelsky, and very few by the rest of the PL.
RDBD yeah that's what I'm saying.
We've had a few games where we've scored three or four but not many.
In 9 games out of 22 games against teams not in the top seven, Chelsea have scored three or more goals. They've also scored three or more against Spurs, Arsenal and United.
Eight for Arsenal and also for Spurs.
The other difference is with this new approach you're seeing the potential for top sides to get hammered by five or six as has happened to Spurs, Arsenal and United.
"We've had a few games where we've scored three or four but not many."
Set a GD of 4 as the minimum "hammering" , and then do the tally. Spurs I think have only two such results. <Citeh> equalled that against Spurs alone.
Why? I think three is enough to suggest an attacking approach. It's just both Liverpool and City have been better at it.
It's not really a different approach, the teams are just worse.
The Whole concept of the league is to score more points than anyone else, so its entirely subjective to the oppositions points tally.
If you get a record points tally, then you have progressed on average to the other 19 teams in the league and If your league position is lower, you haven't improved as much as the teams around you. Its still a sign of progression, just not enough progression.
The cold hard fact is that a record points tally is as important as any league position (apart from 1st) because If you improved your points tally every season you would eventually win the league, even if some seasons you finished lower than others. I thnk a record points tally is what every team would want if they didnt actually win the league in any given season.
oddiy, yeah I think that's fair.
A bit like running a pb in the 100m but not winning a medal.
Darren, true mate, but points are a slightly different as they are more subjective - a 100m pb doesnt impact directly on the runners around you - If you continue to get record points you will eventually win the league the same could be said for league position - if you finish a place above each season even with less points you will eventually finish first - but it wouldnt be sustainable with a conitnually decreasing points tally.
This is why stats are so misleading and in most cases pretty pointless.
If there is a Spurs fan who is happy with the results, performances and entertainment from THFC this season then I will be stunned and I really dont care how many points we have at the end of the season.
We have been painful to watch in 90% of our games and I really dont care how many boring points we ground out under AVB and Sherwood. We have not even been exciting in any cup competition the whole season has been damned awful.
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posted on 20/4/14
"The points totals this season are more to do with the increasing gap between the top 7 and the rest, rather than reflective of the ability of the top 7 in comparison to previous seasons."
The top 7 this season have been quite meh.
But the bottom 10 have been really poor.
That is the reason for the state of play in the PL this season.
posted on 20/4/14
comment by KentSpur (U11208)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
If we get 72 points it shows just how weak this league is
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Everyone outside of the top 7 have been rubbish really, we're looking at teams staying up with 33-34 points.
posted on 20/4/14
I think the difference is in the way teams at the top are approaching games. We are seeing teams being blown away by attacking sides.
posted on 20/4/14
Only Liverpool and City.
United, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton have hardly been blowing away all the crap teams - they've just been beating them regularly, with the odd pasting.
posted on 20/4/14
Arsenal were for most of the season and have been for years. Their problem has been against the top sides. Spurs have been also, for the most part. Chelsea were until recently too.
posted on 20/4/14
None of those teams have been blowing away teams at the bottom of the league, bar the odd thrashing.
posted on 20/4/14
They had.
posted on 20/4/14
Do we have the stats for PL results this season where the end GD was 4 and above ??
I'd wager that nearly all of them were caused by the Poool / <Citeh> / Chelsky, and very few by the rest of the PL.
posted on 20/4/14
RDBD yeah that's what I'm saying.
We've had a few games where we've scored three or four but not many.
posted on 20/4/14
In 9 games out of 22 games against teams not in the top seven, Chelsea have scored three or more goals. They've also scored three or more against Spurs, Arsenal and United.
Eight for Arsenal and also for Spurs.
The other difference is with this new approach you're seeing the potential for top sides to get hammered by five or six as has happened to Spurs, Arsenal and United.
posted on 20/4/14
"We've had a few games where we've scored three or four but not many."
Set a GD of 4 as the minimum "hammering" , and then do the tally. Spurs I think have only two such results. <Citeh> equalled that against Spurs alone.
posted on 20/4/14
Why? I think three is enough to suggest an attacking approach. It's just both Liverpool and City have been better at it.
posted on 20/4/14
It's not really a different approach, the teams are just worse.
posted on 20/4/14
The Whole concept of the league is to score more points than anyone else, so its entirely subjective to the oppositions points tally.
If you get a record points tally, then you have progressed on average to the other 19 teams in the league and If your league position is lower, you haven't improved as much as the teams around you. Its still a sign of progression, just not enough progression.
The cold hard fact is that a record points tally is as important as any league position (apart from 1st) because If you improved your points tally every season you would eventually win the league, even if some seasons you finished lower than others. I thnk a record points tally is what every team would want if they didnt actually win the league in any given season.
posted on 20/4/14
oddiy, yeah I think that's fair.
A bit like running a pb in the 100m but not winning a medal.
posted on 20/4/14
Darren, true mate, but points are a slightly different as they are more subjective - a 100m pb doesnt impact directly on the runners around you - If you continue to get record points you will eventually win the league the same could be said for league position - if you finish a place above each season even with less points you will eventually finish first - but it wouldnt be sustainable with a conitnually decreasing points tally.
posted on 20/4/14
Aye I agree.
posted on 20/4/14
This is why stats are so misleading and in most cases pretty pointless.
If there is a Spurs fan who is happy with the results, performances and entertainment from THFC this season then I will be stunned and I really dont care how many points we have at the end of the season.
We have been painful to watch in 90% of our games and I really dont care how many boring points we ground out under AVB and Sherwood. We have not even been exciting in any cup competition the whole season has been damned awful.
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