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comment by T-BAD (U11806)

posted on 22/4/14

Just more of an underdog story I guess. The only thing Joey Barton said that I agreed with was a while back when he said as a nation our mentality is fundamentally flawed - we love a plucky loser and don't like an efficient winner.

posted on 22/4/14

Did you know that......

Dyche didn't sign Ings
Dyche didn't sign Vokes, he arrived 2 months previously
Dyche didn't sign Kieran trippier
He didn't sign Jason shackell or Ben mee

These were all brought to the club by Eddie Howe I believe who gets none of the credit. Howe is a bright young talent who has turned Bournemouth into a playoff chasing team already.

Don't get me wrong, Dyche brought in good players with what he had, notably arfield and Kightly, but the foundations appear to have been firmly laid by Howe before dyches excellent work this season

Pearson on the other hand had to clear out a load of expensive flops and sign a new team on considerably lower wages to meet FFP.

posted on 22/4/14

Its because we are still 'Big Svending Leicester' in the eyes of the national media

posted on 22/4/14

Sod what the media say.

We are Champions!

posted on 22/4/14

I don't care now since we are CHAMPIONS

comment by Vulpes (U6011)

posted on 22/4/14

According to For fox sake's article a week or two back:
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/263010
we have the second smallest squad in the division while Burnley contrary to popular belief, have one of the largest.

All of which matters not a jot, because
WE ARE CHAMPIONS!!!




posted on 22/4/14

The media love in is because they've just been promoted and because it's like a Cinderella story - like it or not, Dyche has done that job with practically no money available to new signings.

What a shame they couldn't complete the job and get the title.

posted on 22/4/14

It was so long ago we got promotion I think everyone has forgotten us, untill tonight of course!

posted on 22/4/14

It seems other football managers haven't actually recognised what Pearson has done never mind the media.

"Leicester have done it in a way that I would like to copy with young, hungry players.

Then contradicted himself by saying;

"They went and bought their players for a significant amount of money; we are going to have to find them a little bit rougher and polish them up."

Which players did Pearson sign for significant fees then Dougie?

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 22/4/14

It does slightly irk me that Burnley's promotion is perceived by many as a rags to riches tale whereas ours was built on big spending.

Burnley have been in the Premier League far more recently than us and have only just stopped benefiting from millions of pounds of parachute payments. The reality is that we've both had to trim our squads back following a period of affluence.

That said, rather Burnley than many of the other alternatives.

posted on 23/4/14

It does frustrate me that we've not shaken the "big spending Leicester" tag from the Sven days. Pearson has worked very hard to move on all the expensive flops and bring in young players in lower wages to bring us in line with FFP.

I do get annoyed that he doesn't get credit for that.

However, there's no denying that if you compared out player and wage bill to Burnley's, it would come out much higher. The likes of Kasper, Nigent and Koncheskey (albeit on a reduced wage) will be earning a lot more than Burnley's players (and invariably most of ours!!).

So, you can't deny that Dyche has done an amazing job (and I agree with Blackstarr that Eddie Howe actually deserves a fair proportion of the credit and looks a proper manager). You also can't deny they have done it with limited signings this year, and on a shoestring compared to the likes of Forest, QPR etc.

For this, they do deserve a lot of credit and fair play to them.

Let's not get jealous though - we're champions!!!

posted on 23/4/14

That is a very good point about Eddie Howe bringing in many of the players that have been key to their promotion. Dyche was able to build a bit on an existing squad while Pearson has had to rebuild Leicester using only select elements from the previous regime. Twice, in fact. He also built the base of the Hull side that got promoted and are very likely to stay there.

comment by CDUBYA (U17121)

posted on 23/4/14

Bit surprised by this reaction actually as I think Burnley deserve all the acclaim they are getting. They have done it on a shoestring and it feels a bit mean spirited to try and down play that.
We received just as much coverage when we gained promotion and can look forward to more now we have been crowned champions.
They arent local rivals and surely its ideal they are being promoted as you would imagine there is a decent chance we will finish above them.

posted on 23/4/14

All credit to Burnley, but Dyche has been incorrectly suggesting we have a larger squad and have spent significantly more money so I can understand the reaction to some of the media comments. The mainstream media haven't really picked up on Burnley's 4 years of permier league parachute payments either, but why spoil a good story http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/10619254._Shocking____8m_loss_for_Burnley_FC/?ref=rc

posted on 23/4/14

I'm with Cdubya on this one. I think it's all just down to timing! We were promoted earlier this month and the news articles were all over when it happened citing a variety of reasons why. Check out this one I dug up out of the BBC website apparently last updated on April 5th

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26838116

I think that one just about covers all?

Since then Burnley were later promoted and received similar published articles citing their reasons for their promotion.

That doesn't take anything away from what we did or how/why we did it. It's just journalists trying to find something to write about and look insightful. The timing of the promotions was set apart and therefore so were the arcticles of praise. Quite a nice way to do it really and in today's news we're back in the limelight as we've now clinched the title.

However I do agree with some other comments here and it does also frustrate me when you hear some of the comments from some sources and other managers (who should study the league they're in and teams they're up against so frankly should know better!!) saying we're big spending Leicester.

But these are simply made by the uneducated fools and they really do and should look quite bitter and stupid to us clued up foxes. But if they want to make these ungrounded snipes then let them, and let Burnley have some limelight too. Fair play to them.

I don't care either way! We're CHAMPIONS!

posted on 23/4/14

Whilst I don't begrudge the coverage Burnley are getting, the bias towards them rather than us was summed up on Saturday on 5 live when the commentator at the end of the match when Burnley were confirmed as promoted said "Leicester City were promoted last week without playing a game but this week Burnley have done it in style" As if to say they got their promotion the right way as opposed to lucky Leicester who had to rely on other results going their way.

I don't care either We ARE the Champions!!!

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 23/4/14

I have absolutely no problem with Burnley getting promoted. I’m delighted it’s them and not one of the other teams in the top six.

I also have no problem with the coverage they are getting. They are a “relatively” small club by Premier League standards, Dyche has managed the club very astutely and it has been run sustainably from a finance points of view.

I simply wish that the press would report things accurately. There is the tendency to look at clubs who have had significant support from an investor with envy. The impression is that they have somehow bent the rules to achieve success.

In reality if you look at clubs that are competitive in the Championship there are very few that haven’t either received parachute payments in their recent past or have been financed (disproportionately to their income) by a rich benefactor. It shouldn’t detract from Burnley’s achievements to point out that part of their success has been built on a very solid foundation achieved by the receipt of parachute payments and very significant transfer fees received for the likes of Rodriguez and Austin. In the same way our success has been bankrolled, to some extent, by foreign owners.

The obsession in this country is to hail the plucky loser and there is a real reluctance to acknowledge the ruthless and efficient winner. Also everyone in this country loves an underdog and that’s why the Burnley story is much more compelling than ours even if, when you scratch away at the surface, it is only partially correct.

comment by Vulpes (U6011)

posted on 23/4/14

Nail on head with that last para Joby.

As one of the powerhouse teams of my youth, I'm pleased that Burnley are coming up with us. Whatever the resources at their disposal, they've thoroughly deserved it.

It would be nice if the media occasionally had some sense of perspective about money though. Someone on here worked out a few weeks back, that our 'first team' cost around 8 million, which is fractionally over 6 months of Rooney's wages.

Always the way though – the more an initial misconception is corrected, the more it becomes reinforced. So no real surprise that to many, we're still 'Big spending Leicester', with a huge and expensively assembled squad.

posted on 23/4/14

I think

"I don't care, we ARE the Champions"

Should be a compulsory tag line to every post from now on.






I don't care, we ARE the Champions

posted on 23/4/14

Rankles with me too Yankari, but likewise...

I don't care, we ARE the Champions

True Blue

posted on 24/4/14

Joby - that sounded very much like a more eloquent version of a Joey Barton quote 😉

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