Can't agree with that at all. Giggs probably ahs a large influence but I think senior pros like Rio, Vidic, Evra, Rooney, RVP equally as much .
We just need a strong confident, even arrogant manager with a swagger and confidence to put us back on our perch !
I reckon it could be a mistake to hold onto all of them in coaching positions, or else they could become a power bloc that undermines the manager. However, I wouldn't be averse to eg Gary as assistant coach and Paul running the youthnteam.
i agree to an extent, having 1 or 2 of them is fine
The next manager needs to be fit to tell Fergie to feck right off and start pruning his roses.
The class of 92 have just started coaching. United is a job you should earn from being a top coach, not a top player.
Welbeck won't learn much from Giggs telling him how great his mates used to be.
Sack the lot.
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comment by El Pundito (U16869)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
The class of 92 have just started coaching. United is a job you should earn from being a top coach, not a top player.
Welbeck won't learn much from Giggs telling him how great his mates used to be.
Sack the lot.
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You were 100% correct until the word 'from'
i actually agree they should go, but only because there are far better coaches out there.
this is no time for nostalgia.
Something that has stood United in good stead for many years is continuity and unity; which is why it was a mistake to get rid of Phelan and Meulensteen. United have always been a tight knit family with everyone valued right down to the Tea Lady, this needs to continue which is why it would be ridiculous for the class of 92 to be ripped from the club!
this needs to continue which is why it would be ridiculous for the class of 92 to be ripped from the club!
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even if there are better coaches around??
Dunc, there were better coaches in the world than Phelan but the recipe worked pretty well. It's partly about ability, partly about relationships and commitment.
It would be ideal if we could get the balance right: a healthy contribution from the most talented of those figures, preserving the ethos of the club, but avoiding the creation of a powerful clique that can undermine the manager.
Having them at the club doesn't mean they have to take the top coach positions. Fergie made appointments that were appropriate; keeping the likes of Phelan, McClair, Scholes at the club to progress as was fit.
comment by Lambsy (U2861)
posted 19 seconds ago
Having them at the club doesn't mean they have to take the top coach positions. Fergie made appointments that were appropriate; keeping the likes of Phelan, McClair, Scholes at the club to progress as was fit.
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thats true but they all had experience alongside them to work with.
as it stands i dont think any of our coaches have any real coaching experience.
Yes of course they all had experience alongside which is what is needed now. The current regime is just for the next couple of weeks, then the future set up will come into consideration and that is the time to think about the role of the class of 92.
If we were to keep Giggs as manager I'd hope he'd invite Meulensteen and Phelan back, have Scholes on board in some capacity and possibly Phil Neville.
If a new man such as LVG or Anchelotti comes in then they should have some top coaches to appoint, however I'd still suggest that keeping the likes of Giggs, scholes and Neville around in some capacity would be ideal.
Did pot of brown smelly stuff stirrer Giles say like anything like this pre the sacking ( afterall he's not short of an opinion ), of just stirring the pot now that Moyes has gone?
comment by Dunc - ignore all talk of wrinkly balls and a knackered Libido (U11713)
posted 52 minutes ago
this needs to continue which is why it would be ridiculous for the class of 92 to be ripped from the club!
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even if there are better coaches around??
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That didn't stop them hiring Moyes
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posted on 24/4/14
Can't agree with that at all. Giggs probably ahs a large influence but I think senior pros like Rio, Vidic, Evra, Rooney, RVP equally as much .
We just need a strong confident, even arrogant manager with a swagger and confidence to put us back on our perch !
posted on 24/4/14
I reckon it could be a mistake to hold onto all of them in coaching positions, or else they could become a power bloc that undermines the manager. However, I wouldn't be averse to eg Gary as assistant coach and Paul running the youthnteam.
posted on 24/4/14
i agree to an extent, having 1 or 2 of them is fine
posted on 24/4/14
The next manager needs to be fit to tell Fergie to feck right off and start pruning his roses.
posted on 24/4/14
The class of 92 have just started coaching. United is a job you should earn from being a top coach, not a top player.
Welbeck won't learn much from Giggs telling him how great his mates used to be.
Sack the lot.
posted on 25/4/14
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posted on 25/4/14
comment by El Pundito (U16869)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
The class of 92 have just started coaching. United is a job you should earn from being a top coach, not a top player.
Welbeck won't learn much from Giggs telling him how great his mates used to be.
Sack the lot.
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You were 100% correct until the word 'from'
posted on 25/4/14
i actually agree they should go, but only because there are far better coaches out there.
this is no time for nostalgia.
posted on 25/4/14
Something that has stood United in good stead for many years is continuity and unity; which is why it was a mistake to get rid of Phelan and Meulensteen. United have always been a tight knit family with everyone valued right down to the Tea Lady, this needs to continue which is why it would be ridiculous for the class of 92 to be ripped from the club!
posted on 25/4/14
this needs to continue which is why it would be ridiculous for the class of 92 to be ripped from the club!
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even if there are better coaches around??
posted on 25/4/14
Dunc, there were better coaches in the world than Phelan but the recipe worked pretty well. It's partly about ability, partly about relationships and commitment.
It would be ideal if we could get the balance right: a healthy contribution from the most talented of those figures, preserving the ethos of the club, but avoiding the creation of a powerful clique that can undermine the manager.
posted on 25/4/14
Having them at the club doesn't mean they have to take the top coach positions. Fergie made appointments that were appropriate; keeping the likes of Phelan, McClair, Scholes at the club to progress as was fit.
posted on 25/4/14
comment by Lambsy (U2861)
posted 19 seconds ago
Having them at the club doesn't mean they have to take the top coach positions. Fergie made appointments that were appropriate; keeping the likes of Phelan, McClair, Scholes at the club to progress as was fit.
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thats true but they all had experience alongside them to work with.
as it stands i dont think any of our coaches have any real coaching experience.
posted on 25/4/14
Yes of course they all had experience alongside which is what is needed now. The current regime is just for the next couple of weeks, then the future set up will come into consideration and that is the time to think about the role of the class of 92.
If we were to keep Giggs as manager I'd hope he'd invite Meulensteen and Phelan back, have Scholes on board in some capacity and possibly Phil Neville.
If a new man such as LVG or Anchelotti comes in then they should have some top coaches to appoint, however I'd still suggest that keeping the likes of Giggs, scholes and Neville around in some capacity would be ideal.
posted on 25/4/14
Did pot of brown smelly stuff stirrer Giles say like anything like this pre the sacking ( afterall he's not short of an opinion ), of just stirring the pot now that Moyes has gone?
posted on 25/4/14
comment by Dunc - ignore all talk of wrinkly balls and a knackered Libido (U11713)
posted 52 minutes ago
this needs to continue which is why it would be ridiculous for the class of 92 to be ripped from the club!
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even if there are better coaches around??
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That didn't stop them hiring Moyes
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