I agree

Just you wait until we bottle the FA Cup. Going to be a global meltdown.

Spot on op. Also even the fans take the same stance e.g Wenger messed up in the January transfer market and didn't buy a striker when Chelsea have also been in need of a world class Striker but you don't hear Chelsea fans calling for Maureen to leave.

Add to it that most media and arsenal fans are saying that winning an fa cup win I'll only make it an acceptable average season

There is some truth in that, but the injury situation has been ongoing for years. Too many soft tissue injuries and out of action for what seems like an eternity in some cases.

Nonsense.

Every teams fans goes into this rigmarole about some perceived injustice against their team. You can't all be right, hence you are all wrong.

Arsenal are held to more or less the same standards as everyone else.

Also even the fans take the same stance
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I forgot to mention that in the article. While I agree it is criminal for us to go into the season with Sanogo as the 2nd choice striker, it still doesn't justify the garbage we are getting from the media.

Well people will say that we have underachieved because of our league position a few months ago. But the same people said we were overachieving then. So overall we have just achieved about what was expected of us. Maybe a bit more considering we were written out of the top 4 at the beginning of the season.

We've improved our points tally over last season and might even win one of those shiny things. Analytically and objectively it's progress but in a hugely frustrating way bearing in mind how it all panned out.

I think it's obvious to every man and his dog where Arsenal's failings have been, therefore after we did capitulate it's been a no-brainer to report it as it is.

As for Liverpool; well you wouldn't have expected them to get top 4 really so to challenge until the end is a good showing, you can't really pick them apart for throwing it away against Palace. When they do it most years like us they'll get their label.

Most Arsenal fans have been telling anyone who will listen on here, before, and earlier on in the season, that Arsenal have a much better squad than the likes of Liverpool, indeed, it was said by many an Arsenal fan, that the likes of Liverpool were not even good enough to be considered as rivals to Arsenal.
So in turn it would suggest if thats true, that Arsenal have flucked up if they find themselves behind clubs who they believe they have better players than.

comment by The_Red_Cognoscente (U9741)
posted 36 seconds ago
Nonsense.

Every teams fans goes into this rigmarole about some perceived injustice against their team. You can't all be right, hence you are all wrong.

Arsenal are held to more or less the same standards as everyone else.
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How is it nonsense? You are just going with the same old response of "every fan feels like they have been hard done by" without even addressing anything in the article making your input here pretty useless. Come back when you are ready to respond to the article not just post the same old garbage.

But poor little Liverpool, they haven't won the league for, ooh, like ages, unlike nasty posh Arsenal with their noncey Marble Hall ways and their sensible financial arrangements and, ooh I dont' know, their foreign players and foreign manager and that... everybody wants the Red men to win don't they....don't they.....don't they....

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What Alan Hansen dreamt last night.

Because we've messed up in the same ways many times. If we hadn't seen so many capitulations in the last few years then maybe they wouldn't be so critical.

Also trophies are everything for the media cants, spend 100m and win a League cup and your season is a success.

Jlou

I think we do have a better *squad* than Liverpool (squad, not necessarily team).

Yet we insisted on playing the same key players three times a week over and over again, leading to the lack of fitness, sharpness and injury issues we've had.

Only ourselves to blame I think.

comment by TheSkins (U3865)
posted 1 minute ago
Well people will say that we have underachieved because of our league position a few months ago. But the same people said we were overachieving then. So overall we have just achieved about what was expected of us. Maybe a bit more considering we were written out of the top 4 at the beginning of the season.

We've improved our points tally over last season and might even win one of those shiny things. Analytically and objectively it's progress but in a hugely frustrating way bearing in mind how it all panned out.
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Great response which sums up exactly how I feel about the season.

comment by Chris H - Little bit hate Giroud (U15205)
posted 1 minute ago
Jlou

I think we do have a better *squad* than Liverpool (squad, not necessarily team).

Yet we insisted on playing the same key players three times a week over and over again, leading to the lack of fitness, sharpness and injury issues we've had.

Only ourselves to blame I think.
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eh Chris, that is another myth that I pretty much debunked in this article

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/263328

Contrary to what you believe we don't rotate any worse than any other team in the premier league. In fact City have used the least players in the premier league with their key players playing basically every game.

I think Arsenal were only a decent transfer window from winning the league this year, obviously the loss of the likes of Wallcot was a massive blow, along with Ramsey.
Ozil showed great early promise, but fell away a little, but is still a very good player who I'm sure will come good again next season.
Apart from some of the bigger gob$h!tes on the Arsenal board, I would have been happy to see Arsenal win the league if we couldnt, particularly for Wengers sake.
As a manager he has brought a lot to the game in this country, and changed a lot of attitudes towards how the game is played, both on and off the pitch, which made it all the more galling to listen to that toerag Mourinho disrespecting a man who he isn't worthy of lacing the shoes of.
Anyway, there's always next year boys, look forward to maybe playing you lot in the Champions league next season.

Interesting argument in all honesty.

No influx of Liverpool fans, yet... Some great comments on here. Arsenal HAVE gained a bit of a 'bottling' reputation when it matters, for the best part, even as an Arsenal fan it's difficult to argue that the tag isn't without validation.

Pressure does strange things to people, in team sports it runs even deeper. Liverpool's games against Chelsea & last nights capitulation from being 3 up against Palace is a picture-book reference of exactly that!

What will chime loudly with non-Liverpool fans is the media (English media) & there non too clandestine pro-Liverpool approach to punditry this season will mean that questions like this one asked by the OP will inevitably raise their head.

Liverpool have been brilliant this campaign, pure & simple. I didn't expect them to make top 4, let alone challenge for a title. Lest we forget that the season has been bonkers results-wise, so let's see what Man City do in their remaining two home games.

I don't see you've debunked anything in that article, unless you've done it somewhere in the comments?

Hazard and Toure, for example, played 12 times between August and October.

Ramsey played 15 times between that timeframe.

So just on those two, Ramsey played a game a month more. Thoughts?

Everybody, for some strange reason were saying we would drop out of the top 4 this season. Silly people!

The thing that makes it painful for us fans is that we could have easily run away with the title because we were not much less than awesome for a large percentage of the season. Getting spanked a couple of times by certain teams was extremely annoying too, our injury situation didn't help this!

We better win the FA cup!!!!

comment by Chris H - Little bit hate Giroud (U15205)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't see you've debunked anything in that article, unless you've done it somewhere in the comments?

Hazard and Toure, for example, played 12 times between August and October.

Ramsey played 15 times between that timeframe.

So just on those two, Ramsey played a game a month more. Thoughts?
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They only did that because they had fewer games to play not because they were not rotated. We had 2 extra games in the champions league qualifiers. What I mean is when the key players from the big teams are fit, they play. There is no rotation policy in any of those clubs so you can't say that our problems are coming from poor rotation. If City and Chelsea had 15 games between that period, I can absolutely guarantee you that they would have played them all.

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BTW, our problem at the beginning of the season was not killing off games when we had control of the games leaving us unable to make substitutions to key players because the game is already won. The best we could do was substitute a player for Monreal but the likes of Ramsey and Ozil would play whole matches at a high intensity. That will obviously lead to a little more fatigue than when you win games by the 60th minute.

"If City and Chelsea had 15 games between that period, I can absolutely guarantee you that they would have played them all."

Have you got any facts at all, or are you just personally guaranteeing everything?

For example, only 2 players of Man City have played more than 30 league games this season. Only another 3 have played more than 25 - so it's not really lending to your idea that no rotation takes place?

I actually thought about that a few days ago but funny enough I have run into this comment in that thread. I didn't pay much attention to it then, but come to think of it was pretty much spot on.

"I think what we've seen Pellegrini do all season is be able to substitute the likes of Nasri, Silva, Yaya, our strikers, not with 5 minutes to go, but with 20-25 minutes to go....and I think that's a big plus, because as players tire, overstretching can come into play, or lazy tackles by opposition players that add to an already strained body."

City used to spank teams at the beginning of the season didn't they?

"City used to spank teams at the beginning of the season didn't they?"

More towards the middle I think.

To me, you cannot blame our injuries on bad luck. Even Wenger says they are investigating what is going on.