8th isn't a great achievement, especially with no cup runs and all these supposedly top class players.
Going from L1 to 8th is impressive, but thats the whole picture with different players (a few the same, but not many of the squad now were in L1, about 4), different managers, millions spent.
The bottom line is we have a supposedly top manager, supposedly a load of top players, a great academy, breaking transfer records, and finishing 8th.
Sam Allardyce had Bolton finishing higher than that. O'Neill the same with Villa.
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comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 39 minutes ago
8th isn't a great achievement, especially with no cup runs and all these supposedly top class players.
Going from L1 to 8th is impressive, but thats the whole picture with different players (a few the same, but not many of the squad now were in L1, about 4), different managers, millions spent.
The bottom line is we have a supposedly top manager, supposedly a load of top players, a great academy, breaking transfer records, and finishing 8th.
Sam Allardyce had Bolton finishing higher than that. O'Neill the same with Villa.
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Why isn't eighth a great achievement? I don't get it, they were the eighth best club in England last season, behind Liverpool, United and Arsenal, the three super clubs in the league, City and Chelsea, the money bags and err Spurs. That's a great achievement, especially from where they've come from. They didn't spend an awful lot to get there either.
Most of their improvement has come from their young players and players they've gambled on young, who have come on leaps and bounds, with Lallana pulling the strings having came into the side at around 17 years old and improved each season. They have a host of very good young players and the academy you've talked about has been scavenged for years and their young players once again are being looked at this season. It's no coincidence.
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Oh I forgot about Everton, how could I, they're so memorable
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Yeah everybody loves a club who do feck all and have no chance to damage your own club's chances.
Yet people keep listing loads of their players as ones the 7 clubs who are better than them should be buying.
If loads of there players are good enough to be playing for the 7 teams above them, then why did those teams finish above them?
We are told that:
Chambers, Clyne, Shaw, Lallana, Lambert, Rodriguez, Lovren, Wanyama, Schneiderlin, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez, thats 10 players, plus a manager who is highly rated.
My point is not that Southampton are not doing well. My point is that people are overrating either their players, their manager, or both, because if they were as good as people were making out, they wouldn't be 8th.
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disagree dont think many would start
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Also each team above them has different weak areas which those players mentioned would strengthen or at the least provide competition. For example, we could certainly use, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Lambert and Schneiderlin in our squad. Chelsea could use Shaw. Arsenal Shaw, Lovren, Clyne/Chambers and Schneiderlin. Spurs all of them bar the right backs. Everton all of them...and the rest of their squad, plus stadium, backroom staff kit man, grounds man down to the tea lady.
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I meant strongest 11
Southampton would only actually have received around £15m from #LFC initial bid for Lallana, with the rest made up of add-ons. (Telegraph)
Sounds very fair to me, this english premium shīt needs to stop
I don't think it should stop. It's normal that clubs don't want to lose their English players. Liverpool fought against losing Gerrard and he stayed his whole career. English players are more likely to stay longer and thus worth more. Foreign players have no real need to be loyal to an English club.
well I hope we dont pay a premium, excellent bid by the club, happy they havent bid an absurd amount outright
do other leagues have premiums on buying their own? or just we barely have any good players
Dont Southampton have the 3rd lowest wage bill in the country...phenomenal to finish 8th imo.
And if they kept this team and manager together they would've closed the gap on the other 7.
dunno about that, unless they retained and bought some top players in
Ofcourse taking into account new additions.
Like us, there's alot of potential in the team still. As they grow together they should get better, granted the manager can keep them pushing.
theyd maybe take over everton, thats it though imo
Or they could do a Spurs and establish themselves as top team.
The owners have the funds.
comment by Ilori (U18764)
posted about an hour ago
do other leagues have premiums on buying their own? or just we barely have any good players
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Yes, when transferring between domestic teams.
A lot of the time though they bring talent back from abroad because it's cheaper. Being that most other countries players are more willing to move.
The home grown rules are the primary reason for the inflated values!
As well as the tendency towards domestic players spending longer at domestic clubs.
not to englands level imo
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posted on 3/6/14
8th isn't a great achievement, especially with no cup runs and all these supposedly top class players.
Going from L1 to 8th is impressive, but thats the whole picture with different players (a few the same, but not many of the squad now were in L1, about 4), different managers, millions spent.
The bottom line is we have a supposedly top manager, supposedly a load of top players, a great academy, breaking transfer records, and finishing 8th.
Sam Allardyce had Bolton finishing higher than that. O'Neill the same with Villa.
posted on 3/6/14
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posted on 3/6/14
comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 39 minutes ago
8th isn't a great achievement, especially with no cup runs and all these supposedly top class players.
Going from L1 to 8th is impressive, but thats the whole picture with different players (a few the same, but not many of the squad now were in L1, about 4), different managers, millions spent.
The bottom line is we have a supposedly top manager, supposedly a load of top players, a great academy, breaking transfer records, and finishing 8th.
Sam Allardyce had Bolton finishing higher than that. O'Neill the same with Villa.
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Why isn't eighth a great achievement? I don't get it, they were the eighth best club in England last season, behind Liverpool, United and Arsenal, the three super clubs in the league, City and Chelsea, the money bags and err Spurs. That's a great achievement, especially from where they've come from. They didn't spend an awful lot to get there either.
Most of their improvement has come from their young players and players they've gambled on young, who have come on leaps and bounds, with Lallana pulling the strings having came into the side at around 17 years old and improved each season. They have a host of very good young players and the academy you've talked about has been scavenged for years and their young players once again are being looked at this season. It's no coincidence.
posted on 3/6/14
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posted on 3/6/14
Oh I forgot about Everton, how could I, they're so memorable
posted on 3/6/14
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posted on 3/6/14
Yeah everybody loves a club who do feck all and have no chance to damage your own club's chances.
posted on 3/6/14
Yet people keep listing loads of their players as ones the 7 clubs who are better than them should be buying.
If loads of there players are good enough to be playing for the 7 teams above them, then why did those teams finish above them?
We are told that:
Chambers, Clyne, Shaw, Lallana, Lambert, Rodriguez, Lovren, Wanyama, Schneiderlin, Ward-Prowse, Ramirez, thats 10 players, plus a manager who is highly rated.
My point is not that Southampton are not doing well. My point is that people are overrating either their players, their manager, or both, because if they were as good as people were making out, they wouldn't be 8th.
posted on 3/6/14
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posted on 3/6/14
disagree dont think many would start
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posted on 3/6/14
Also each team above them has different weak areas which those players mentioned would strengthen or at the least provide competition. For example, we could certainly use, Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Lambert and Schneiderlin in our squad. Chelsea could use Shaw. Arsenal Shaw, Lovren, Clyne/Chambers and Schneiderlin. Spurs all of them bar the right backs. Everton all of them...and the rest of their squad, plus stadium, backroom staff kit man, grounds man down to the tea lady.
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posted on 4/6/14
I meant strongest 11
Southampton would only actually have received around £15m from #LFC initial bid for Lallana, with the rest made up of add-ons. (Telegraph)
Sounds very fair to me, this english premium shīt needs to stop
posted on 4/6/14
I don't think it should stop. It's normal that clubs don't want to lose their English players. Liverpool fought against losing Gerrard and he stayed his whole career. English players are more likely to stay longer and thus worth more. Foreign players have no real need to be loyal to an English club.
posted on 4/6/14
well I hope we dont pay a premium, excellent bid by the club, happy they havent bid an absurd amount outright
posted on 4/6/14
do other leagues have premiums on buying their own? or just we barely have any good players
posted on 4/6/14
Dont Southampton have the 3rd lowest wage bill in the country...phenomenal to finish 8th imo.
And if they kept this team and manager together they would've closed the gap on the other 7.
posted on 4/6/14
dunno about that, unless they retained and bought some top players in
posted on 4/6/14
Ofcourse taking into account new additions.
Like us, there's alot of potential in the team still. As they grow together they should get better, granted the manager can keep them pushing.
posted on 4/6/14
theyd maybe take over everton, thats it though imo
posted on 4/6/14
Or they could do a Spurs and establish themselves as top team.
The owners have the funds.
posted on 4/6/14
comment by Ilori (U18764)
posted about an hour ago
do other leagues have premiums on buying their own? or just we barely have any good players
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Yes, when transferring between domestic teams.
A lot of the time though they bring talent back from abroad because it's cheaper. Being that most other countries players are more willing to move.
The home grown rules are the primary reason for the inflated values!
posted on 4/6/14
As well as the tendency towards domestic players spending longer at domestic clubs.
posted on 4/6/14
not to englands level imo
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