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exactly look at Malaga last season, they were in financial turmoil and UEFA punished them by kicking them out of Europe, costing them like £50m in revenue for the next season.
City did not fail Premier FFP so what does Liverpool have to do with it?
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comment by #Forza (U19575)
posted 2 minutes ago
It is annoying because my team (Napoli) have complied with FFP which has not allowed us to acquire the players we needed to make next step to be a more successful club which has really slowed our progress.yet teams like Man Cs and Psg who are no bigger than us just spend whatever they want with innocuous penalties.
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cry me a fecking river
Liverpool came second to a team that was cheating. If i came second to a guy who was cheating I would say I was much better and henceforth I would call myself champion.
City did fail didn't you see they got fined £50m today.
City have not cheated under Prem rules. UEFA ffp has nothing to do with the Prem.
but the PL can support UEFA in their verdict. does FFP no matter in the PL??
If UEFA say excessive spending is cheating unless they just ban the players from Europe who were purchased with illegal funds.
What are you talking about?
Different comps with different rules.
The Prem has its own rules. City passed those.
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well then I would question why the hell FFP, which will effect PL performance, isn't part of the the PL laws.
Unless like I said all UEFA can do is ban the players bought with illegal funds.
League champions accept Financial Fair Play sanctions
Manchester City made clear their anger with Uefa last night after being fined £49 million and restricted in the transfer market for breaches of Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations.
After three weeks of tense discussions, in which the club contemplated taking legal action against Uefa, City reluctantly accepted the sanctions rather than risk further damage to their reputation by pursuing a claim against European football’s governing body. In a statement last night, City said that they had dropped a planned appeal because of the possible fallout from an escalation in their conflict with Uefa.
Under the terms of a settlement with Uefa, City face a £49 million fine, £32.5 million of which will be returned if they comply over the next two years, and have been told that they can register a maximum of 21 players, rather than 25, for next season’s Champions League. City have also agreed to a maximum net transfer spend of £49 million this summer and accepted a salary freeze on their Champions League squad, which will also include restrictions on how many new signings can be added to it.
The sanctions relate to City’s losses of £97.9 million in 2011-12 and £50.6 million in 2012-13, which far exceed the maximum permitted £37 million loss over that two-year period. City argued that substantial portions of their expenditure related to investments in infrastructure and youth development and that they should have been allowed to write off up to £80 million of wages earned by players signed before FFP regulations were introduced in 2010.
In a statement issued last night, City said: “The club can confirm that it has been in discussions with Uefa... in relation to the application of FFP regulations, as has been widely reported and communicated by Uefa. At the heart of those discussions is a fundamental disagreement between the club’s and Uefa’s respective interpretations of the FFP regulations on players purchased before 2010. The club believes it has complied with the FFP regulations on this and all other matters.
“In normal circumstances, the club would wish to pursue its case and present its position through every avenue of recourse. However, our decision to do so must be balanced against the practical realities for our fans, for our partners and in the interests of the commercial operations of the club.
“From the outset, the club has engaged with Uefa in its introduction of the FFP regulations in good faith and without prejudice and in a transparent and collaborative manner. The club’s position is that it is beholden upon Uefa and the European football establishment to ensure the same.”
Along with Paris Saint-Germain, whose commercial deals were also queried, City have received by far the heaviest sanctions of the nine clubs found guilty of breaching FFP regulations. City attempted to reassure their fans last night that the sanctions should have little effect on the club’s ambitions. The statement read: “The club’s expenditure on new players for the summer window, on top of income from players it might sell, will be limited to €60 million [about £49 million]. This will have no material impact on the club’s planned transfer activity.
“The Champions League squad for the 2014-15 competition will be limited to 21 players. In 2013-14 the club registered 23 players for the competition and used 21. The wage bill of the whole club (playing and non-playing staff) will need to remain at the same level as that of the 2013-14 season. It is important to note that additional bonuses for performances can be paid outside this number. Importantly, in reality, the existing business plan sees a natural decline in that wage bill.”
Despite the sanctions, City are expected to proceed with their bids to sign Eliaquim Mangala and Fernando, from Porto, and Bacary Sagna, on a free transfer from Arsenal.
Cheating my a rse
You really expect anyone to read that Paul?
comment by King of the Bridge (U1319)
posted 2 minutes ago
well then I would question why the hell FFP, which will effect PL performance, isn't part of the the PL laws.
Unless like I said all UEFA can do is ban the players bought with illegal funds.
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UEFA ffp does not effect a teams Prem performance at all.
It is simple. They are different competitions with different rules, different squads and what happens in one has zero to do with the other. If a player is banned in the Prem he can still play in Europe because they are seperate things.
comment by Igor is daring to dream, we are on our way too Wembley (U1993)
posted 6 minutes ago
You really expect anyone to read that Paul?
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Probably not on here no
Doesn't suit their agenda
your telling me that the club spending will not effect their PL performance at all. ok then i guess were done here.
3 players I expect to come in are Mangala and fernando from Porto for around £25 million and Sagna from Arsenal on a free
Out will be Lescott,Barry,Richards,Guidetti,Sinclair
We have a nett £49 million to spend so that's not an issue and the fine will be only £8 million for 2 years so long as we comply which I expect us to do comfortably
With a 21 playing restriction in the CL that also means we only need 4 homegrown rather than the 8 being bandied about
We only used 21 players in this seasons CL campaign
It's all good ladies
yes i guess it sound dumb coming from a Chelsea fan except our club passed FFP. We are a unique club that we can do well under FFP but dominate if FFP isn't taken into account.
So UEFA need to confirm if there is only a £50m penalty after 3 years of abusing FFP then that is fine I am sure our club can afford the funds needed to get around FFP.
What I am trying to say is that fining super rich clubs is no solution.
IF FFP play carries bans from Europe and point deductions then it will work. Otherwise you can forget it.
comment by King of the Bridge (U1319)
posted 4 minutes ago
yes i guess it sound dumb coming from a Chelsea fan except our club passed FFP. We are a unique club that we can do well under FFP but dominate if FFP isn't taken into account.
So UEFA need to confirm if there is only a £50m penalty after 3 years of abusing FFP then that is fine I am sure our club can afford the funds needed to get around FFP.
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No not dumb
A bit like a t urd critising someone for farting
and if one club can get away with it then why the hell should the rest of us follow the rules.
Is there really one set of rules for some clubs and another for the rest of us.
you calling me a tur d????
your lucky your behind a computer or i would crush your skull
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posted on 17/5/14
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posted on 17/5/14
exactly look at Malaga last season, they were in financial turmoil and UEFA punished them by kicking them out of Europe, costing them like £50m in revenue for the next season.
posted on 17/5/14
City did not fail Premier FFP so what does Liverpool have to do with it?
posted on 17/5/14
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posted on 17/5/14
comment by #Forza (U19575)
posted 2 minutes ago
It is annoying because my team (Napoli) have complied with FFP which has not allowed us to acquire the players we needed to make next step to be a more successful club which has really slowed our progress.yet teams like Man Cs and Psg who are no bigger than us just spend whatever they want with innocuous penalties.
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cry me a fecking river
posted on 17/5/14
Liverpool came second to a team that was cheating. If i came second to a guy who was cheating I would say I was much better and henceforth I would call myself champion.
City did fail didn't you see they got fined £50m today.
posted on 17/5/14
City have not cheated under Prem rules. UEFA ffp has nothing to do with the Prem.
posted on 17/5/14
but the PL can support UEFA in their verdict. does FFP no matter in the PL??
posted on 17/5/14
If UEFA say excessive spending is cheating unless they just ban the players from Europe who were purchased with illegal funds.
posted on 17/5/14
What are you talking about?
Different comps with different rules.
The Prem has its own rules. City passed those.
posted on 17/5/14
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posted on 17/5/14
well then I would question why the hell FFP, which will effect PL performance, isn't part of the the PL laws.
Unless like I said all UEFA can do is ban the players bought with illegal funds.
posted on 17/5/14
League champions accept Financial Fair Play sanctions
Manchester City made clear their anger with Uefa last night after being fined £49 million and restricted in the transfer market for breaches of Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations.
After three weeks of tense discussions, in which the club contemplated taking legal action against Uefa, City reluctantly accepted the sanctions rather than risk further damage to their reputation by pursuing a claim against European football’s governing body. In a statement last night, City said that they had dropped a planned appeal because of the possible fallout from an escalation in their conflict with Uefa.
Under the terms of a settlement with Uefa, City face a £49 million fine, £32.5 million of which will be returned if they comply over the next two years, and have been told that they can register a maximum of 21 players, rather than 25, for next season’s Champions League. City have also agreed to a maximum net transfer spend of £49 million this summer and accepted a salary freeze on their Champions League squad, which will also include restrictions on how many new signings can be added to it.
The sanctions relate to City’s losses of £97.9 million in 2011-12 and £50.6 million in 2012-13, which far exceed the maximum permitted £37 million loss over that two-year period. City argued that substantial portions of their expenditure related to investments in infrastructure and youth development and that they should have been allowed to write off up to £80 million of wages earned by players signed before FFP regulations were introduced in 2010.
In a statement issued last night, City said: “The club can confirm that it has been in discussions with Uefa... in relation to the application of FFP regulations, as has been widely reported and communicated by Uefa. At the heart of those discussions is a fundamental disagreement between the club’s and Uefa’s respective interpretations of the FFP regulations on players purchased before 2010. The club believes it has complied with the FFP regulations on this and all other matters.
“In normal circumstances, the club would wish to pursue its case and present its position through every avenue of recourse. However, our decision to do so must be balanced against the practical realities for our fans, for our partners and in the interests of the commercial operations of the club.
“From the outset, the club has engaged with Uefa in its introduction of the FFP regulations in good faith and without prejudice and in a transparent and collaborative manner. The club’s position is that it is beholden upon Uefa and the European football establishment to ensure the same.”
Along with Paris Saint-Germain, whose commercial deals were also queried, City have received by far the heaviest sanctions of the nine clubs found guilty of breaching FFP regulations. City attempted to reassure their fans last night that the sanctions should have little effect on the club’s ambitions. The statement read: “The club’s expenditure on new players for the summer window, on top of income from players it might sell, will be limited to €60 million [about £49 million]. This will have no material impact on the club’s planned transfer activity.
“The Champions League squad for the 2014-15 competition will be limited to 21 players. In 2013-14 the club registered 23 players for the competition and used 21. The wage bill of the whole club (playing and non-playing staff) will need to remain at the same level as that of the 2013-14 season. It is important to note that additional bonuses for performances can be paid outside this number. Importantly, in reality, the existing business plan sees a natural decline in that wage bill.”
Despite the sanctions, City are expected to proceed with their bids to sign Eliaquim Mangala and Fernando, from Porto, and Bacary Sagna, on a free transfer from Arsenal.
Cheating my a rse
posted on 17/5/14
You really expect anyone to read that Paul?
posted on 17/5/14
comment by King of the Bridge (U1319)
posted 2 minutes ago
well then I would question why the hell FFP, which will effect PL performance, isn't part of the the PL laws.
Unless like I said all UEFA can do is ban the players bought with illegal funds.
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UEFA ffp does not effect a teams Prem performance at all.
It is simple. They are different competitions with different rules, different squads and what happens in one has zero to do with the other. If a player is banned in the Prem he can still play in Europe because they are seperate things.
posted on 17/5/14
comment by Igor is daring to dream, we are on our way too Wembley (U1993)
posted 6 minutes ago
You really expect anyone to read that Paul?
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Probably not on here no
Doesn't suit their agenda
posted on 17/5/14
your telling me that the club spending will not effect their PL performance at all. ok then i guess were done here.
posted on 17/5/14
posted on 17/5/14
From a Chelsea fan.
posted on 17/5/14
3 players I expect to come in are Mangala and fernando from Porto for around £25 million and Sagna from Arsenal on a free
Out will be Lescott,Barry,Richards,Guidetti,Sinclair
We have a nett £49 million to spend so that's not an issue and the fine will be only £8 million for 2 years so long as we comply which I expect us to do comfortably
With a 21 playing restriction in the CL that also means we only need 4 homegrown rather than the 8 being bandied about
We only used 21 players in this seasons CL campaign
It's all good ladies
posted on 17/5/14
yes i guess it sound dumb coming from a Chelsea fan except our club passed FFP. We are a unique club that we can do well under FFP but dominate if FFP isn't taken into account.
So UEFA need to confirm if there is only a £50m penalty after 3 years of abusing FFP then that is fine I am sure our club can afford the funds needed to get around FFP.
posted on 17/5/14
What I am trying to say is that fining super rich clubs is no solution.
IF FFP play carries bans from Europe and point deductions then it will work. Otherwise you can forget it.
posted on 17/5/14
comment by King of the Bridge (U1319)
posted 4 minutes ago
yes i guess it sound dumb coming from a Chelsea fan except our club passed FFP. We are a unique club that we can do well under FFP but dominate if FFP isn't taken into account.
So UEFA need to confirm if there is only a £50m penalty after 3 years of abusing FFP then that is fine I am sure our club can afford the funds needed to get around FFP.
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No not dumb
A bit like a t urd critising someone for farting
posted on 17/5/14
and if one club can get away with it then why the hell should the rest of us follow the rules.
Is there really one set of rules for some clubs and another for the rest of us.
posted on 17/5/14
you calling me a tur d????
your lucky your behind a computer or i would crush your skull
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