to be honest samaras wasn't as bad as the papers made out last night. I was there and he actually tried hard for the majority of the time. He got a smuttering of boos when he came off but nowhere near the noise when stokes came off.
Stokes got loud boos because he was awful last night, looked like he couldnt be bothered. Totally wasted on the right wing but still didnt do anything.
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When people play badly in a game and come off, you boo, when people play well in a game and come off, you clap.
Rangers fans have booed their team at the end of games more times than they have cheered this season
Its a standard system of being a spectator in a sports event which the human race have performed for thousands of years
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'So you booed two of your players.The face the wrong way and dance dance when you lose didn't last long'
we didn't lose
Comparing Samaras to Edu...
Silly Billy
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Samaras is 10 times the player Edu is.
<edusapiginapoke>
It's not just the blind spot with dud players it's playing players out of position that's also a major problem with these 2 managers.
Ortiz has appeared in every one of our matches on the left wing and he has no left foot!!!........in 6 competitive games he's provided maybe 3 crosses and hasn't went past the fullback once.
Stokes should never be played out wide......decent striker but clearly doesn't have the skillset for that role.
I honestly think McCoist and Lennons management of these teams are hurting their chances of success....
where do you think the current crop of "crapmerchants" like broadfoot, edu, beattie, healy, samaras, loovens etc will stand in the overall "crapmerchants list of all time?
Getting close to the regi blinker, sheidt, du wei, lionel letizi , adam virgo, amdy faye, karl svensson, SEBBBBOOOOOOOOOO grouping IMO
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We are where we are, so what if some fans get carried away, thats fitba!
As a rangers fan I was delighted when sammy got a new contract , I think lennon made a big mistake giving him a 3 year contract and that has been proven by his form after signin, edu is also one who needs to get a break from regular action or move on , he shows signs of what he can do , ihe is a player who hides from the game when things aren't goiing our way - which then gets worse , particularly at ibrox when h hears 50k fans on his back which makes matters worse for him and he rushes the ball the the first place he see's .
In regards to booing - I've been a season ticket holder for aslong as I can remeber and I would never boo my team - as I am there to SUPPORT
I think its a sign of the pathetic world we live in where booing is now becoming the norm - I for one will never do it , I know the argument is that we all pay over the top prices to be entertained - I agree with that hwowver who's the ay the enetertainment has the be about the team winning or every player being up to our own high standards? We all pay good money to watch this wonderful sport which regardless of who is playing it or how much the participants get paid to perform it is unpredictable , this is something I think we all need to thinl about before trying to SUPPORT our teams - we can't treat football like its a guarentee like a tv you buy or a car you hire - it wouldn't be a sport otherwise
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sammy has played 90mins this season
edu has played all your games
if hooper was fit sammy would not have played
strange that you cant see this
but yes there both pash
Never mind Edu - McCulloch was worse. Looked like an old man, hacking down players due to his lack of any pace as usual.
At least Edu won tackles at times - set up Jelavic well for a golden chance to make it 2-0, fizzed a shot inches wide in the 2nd half also. I'd rather see McCulloch go than him.
Samaras is not a bad player, he's just not a striker, which is weird because he leads the line so well...without actually putting the ball in the net.
He is all over the park and has good control, except in goal scoring opportunities...On paper..him and Hooper should be ideal...and yet...
I wouldn't boo the team during the match as it hurts the chances of a result but after the 90 I'm not shy in letting them know what i feel.
I can accept the lack of quality but when mediocre players are paid huge wages to play a game or two a week i demand 100% effort and professionalism.
What I've seen so far this season is a half ersed effort and a complete lack of discipline.
Edu is unfairly targeted.
We haven't had a balanced midfield for about 4 years.
The two people playing wide one (Ortiz) is not left footed and one is no winger (Davis)
Then he has McCulloch next to him who gave the ball away non stop last night and was shocking.
This craap has been going on for year and has wrecked the guys confidence, that and the boo boys at Ibrox like the OP.
Get off the players backs. It tactical stupidity followed on from Walters tactical stupidity. The whole team lacks confidence since Walter, especially in Europe. All this players out of position in midfield has destroyed their confidence. They cannot string 3 passes together and last night the midfield was overlooked for long balls over the top. All the midfield do is get the ball, give it to the defence and they hoof it to Jelavic. A joke!
Castle
edu wasn't the worst offender last night but he has started the last 33 straight competitive matches and has been dreadful in just about all of them.
Last night was about as good as Edu gets and it was still well short of a good performance........when he punted the ball out, nearly for a corner from the opposition half I could have cried and laughed at the same time.
At least walter had his own tactics and got the players to do what he wanted........Ally looks like he's trying to copy WS without knowing how to do it.
Edu plays better with Mculloch out the team. He is not a linch pin midfielder. We need a general in there and I think we should be getting Hutton and Ness a run in the team freeing up Davis to get forward. We are still in the tie.
Why is it Edu plays well for the USA? Is it because of the midfield players round him? I have never seen Davis play well on the right, yet he's not targeted.
Edu is constantly targeted by the crowd, no wonder he's not playing well, alone with the players around him.
He's the latest in a long line of targets. Charlie Adam and Chris Burke being others, both left and both were good players after all. Funny that, eh?
I would however sell McCulloch in a heartbeat.
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posted on 19/8/11
to be honest samaras wasn't as bad as the papers made out last night. I was there and he actually tried hard for the majority of the time. He got a smuttering of boos when he came off but nowhere near the noise when stokes came off.
Stokes got loud boos because he was awful last night, looked like he couldnt be bothered. Totally wasted on the right wing but still didnt do anything.
posted on 19/8/11
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posted on 19/8/11
When people play badly in a game and come off, you boo, when people play well in a game and come off, you clap.
Rangers fans have booed their team at the end of games more times than they have cheered this season
Its a standard system of being a spectator in a sports event which the human race have performed for thousands of years
posted on 19/8/11
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posted on 19/8/11
'So you booed two of your players.The face the wrong way and dance dance when you lose didn't last long'
we didn't lose
posted on 19/8/11
Comparing Samaras to Edu...
Silly Billy
posted on 19/8/11
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posted on 19/8/11
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posted on 19/8/11
Samaras is 10 times the player Edu is.
<edusapiginapoke>
posted on 19/8/11
It's not just the blind spot with dud players it's playing players out of position that's also a major problem with these 2 managers.
Ortiz has appeared in every one of our matches on the left wing and he has no left foot!!!........in 6 competitive games he's provided maybe 3 crosses and hasn't went past the fullback once.
Stokes should never be played out wide......decent striker but clearly doesn't have the skillset for that role.
I honestly think McCoist and Lennons management of these teams are hurting their chances of success....
posted on 19/8/11
where do you think the current crop of "crapmerchants" like broadfoot, edu, beattie, healy, samaras, loovens etc will stand in the overall "crapmerchants list of all time?
Getting close to the regi blinker, sheidt, du wei, lionel letizi , adam virgo, amdy faye, karl svensson, SEBBBBOOOOOOOOOO grouping IMO
posted on 19/8/11
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posted on 19/8/11
We are where we are, so what if some fans get carried away, thats fitba!
posted on 19/8/11
As a rangers fan I was delighted when sammy got a new contract , I think lennon made a big mistake giving him a 3 year contract and that has been proven by his form after signin, edu is also one who needs to get a break from regular action or move on , he shows signs of what he can do , ihe is a player who hides from the game when things aren't goiing our way - which then gets worse , particularly at ibrox when h hears 50k fans on his back which makes matters worse for him and he rushes the ball the the first place he see's .
In regards to booing - I've been a season ticket holder for aslong as I can remeber and I would never boo my team - as I am there to SUPPORT
I think its a sign of the pathetic world we live in where booing is now becoming the norm - I for one will never do it , I know the argument is that we all pay over the top prices to be entertained - I agree with that hwowver who's the ay the enetertainment has the be about the team winning or every player being up to our own high standards? We all pay good money to watch this wonderful sport which regardless of who is playing it or how much the participants get paid to perform it is unpredictable , this is something I think we all need to thinl about before trying to SUPPORT our teams - we can't treat football like its a guarentee like a tv you buy or a car you hire - it wouldn't be a sport otherwise
posted on 19/8/11
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posted on 19/8/11
sammy has played 90mins this season
edu has played all your games
if hooper was fit sammy would not have played
strange that you cant see this
but yes there both pash
posted on 19/8/11
Never mind Edu - McCulloch was worse. Looked like an old man, hacking down players due to his lack of any pace as usual.
At least Edu won tackles at times - set up Jelavic well for a golden chance to make it 2-0, fizzed a shot inches wide in the 2nd half also. I'd rather see McCulloch go than him.
posted on 19/8/11
Samaras is not a bad player, he's just not a striker, which is weird because he leads the line so well...without actually putting the ball in the net.
He is all over the park and has good control, except in goal scoring opportunities...On paper..him and Hooper should be ideal...and yet...
posted on 19/8/11
I wouldn't boo the team during the match as it hurts the chances of a result but after the 90 I'm not shy in letting them know what i feel.
I can accept the lack of quality but when mediocre players are paid huge wages to play a game or two a week i demand 100% effort and professionalism.
What I've seen so far this season is a half ersed effort and a complete lack of discipline.
posted on 19/8/11
Edu is unfairly targeted.
We haven't had a balanced midfield for about 4 years.
The two people playing wide one (Ortiz) is not left footed and one is no winger (Davis)
Then he has McCulloch next to him who gave the ball away non stop last night and was shocking.
This craap has been going on for year and has wrecked the guys confidence, that and the boo boys at Ibrox like the OP.
Get off the players backs. It tactical stupidity followed on from Walters tactical stupidity. The whole team lacks confidence since Walter, especially in Europe. All this players out of position in midfield has destroyed their confidence. They cannot string 3 passes together and last night the midfield was overlooked for long balls over the top. All the midfield do is get the ball, give it to the defence and they hoof it to Jelavic. A joke!
posted on 19/8/11
Castle
edu wasn't the worst offender last night but he has started the last 33 straight competitive matches and has been dreadful in just about all of them.
Last night was about as good as Edu gets and it was still well short of a good performance........when he punted the ball out, nearly for a corner from the opposition half I could have cried and laughed at the same time.
At least walter had his own tactics and got the players to do what he wanted........Ally looks like he's trying to copy WS without knowing how to do it.
posted on 19/8/11
Edu plays better with Mculloch out the team. He is not a linch pin midfielder. We need a general in there and I think we should be getting Hutton and Ness a run in the team freeing up Davis to get forward. We are still in the tie.
posted on 19/8/11
Why is it Edu plays well for the USA? Is it because of the midfield players round him? I have never seen Davis play well on the right, yet he's not targeted.
Edu is constantly targeted by the crowd, no wonder he's not playing well, alone with the players around him.
He's the latest in a long line of targets. Charlie Adam and Chris Burke being others, both left and both were good players after all. Funny that, eh?
I would however sell McCulloch in a heartbeat.
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