id want alot more, whos his potential replacement?
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This is how I imagine the PSG boardroom looks like when they discuss transfers.
No way should we sell Hazard.
If PSG want to offer us more silly money for a player then we should sell them Oscar for £50 million+. The mugs would probably pay it as well.
Hazard was a little inconsistent last year but I feel that was as much due to expectation on him to create something every time he got the ball.
If Oscar and Willian can score and create more goals it will help.
I don't want the club to sell him, how many players I the world can get a whole stadium to stand up in expectation when they get the ball in a dangerous area? not many and I would hate to lose the one we had.
Having said that anything close to £80m and I can see us selling.
We cannot sell Hazard.
He is far too important and even if we did get £70-80 million for him who could we replace him with who is available ??
Of course we would at least consider selling him if they came in with silly money, just like United did with Ronaldo and AC Milan with Kaka. That's approaching the record fee for a player, and in the times where we are trying to comply with FFP (and PSG don't give one) of course we would at least consider it, well I certainly would.
No real advantage to sell Hazard right now not even for stupid money, as there is nothing really out there to replace him.
I also never understand when people call him out for inconsistency. He was almost our only provider for goals and chance creation last year, he had a heavy burden to carry, which I personally think any midfielder would have struggled with. Despite this he still provided more goal scoring opportunities than any other player in Europe. You cannot be classed as inconsistent if you show this much productivity. It would be like saying Mata was inconsistent during 12/13 season.
I also don't quite understand why people think he has no loyalty towards the club. Does anybody actually know him? Generally I think he enjoys playing for Chelsea.
I would much rather see us try utilise him properly, which I don't think we have done yet as he seems to be handicapped by the tactics and some of the players around him.
Sanchez and Reus are two possible replacements. Both have been more productive than him this season. Or players with similar potential but more behind in development like Moura and Shaqiri. But past that with £70m+ for Hazard and the £50m for Luiz we could buy world class players all over the team, not just the one replacement for Hazard. Not trying to endorse this sale or rumour and don't want him sold of course, but I do think that every player has a price and don't believe Hazard is an 'unsaleable at any price' asset at all.
Hazard is virtually irreplaceable, the only players better than him in a similar moult are unobtainable, we want Hazard to mature in to our Ronaldo. Around his market value would not be a worth while sale for that reason. If we needed a team rebuild and had one massive asset in Hazard and needed to offset transfers to bring in 6 or 7 players then fine but we don’t. If we got £60-70 million for him we’re a ridiculously good player down and million up, so what in that context? For a player who can’t be replaced to make it worth while it would cost more than anyone would pay - £100 million plus.
Hazard is a brilliant player, one that will only get better and one that raises the profile of our club – he’s worth a huge amount to Chelsea both on and off the pitch.
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 21 minutes ago
We cannot sell Hazard.
He is far too important and even if we did get £70-80 million for him who could we replace him with who is available ??
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You don't have to replace him like for like.
We scored 105 PL goals without a player anything like Hazard in our squad
Hazard was brilliant for us last season, and if people think he was inconsistent, it just further proves what sort of quality he is will be when he consistently dominates.
There is no one out there that can replace Hazard that we can get in. At best we can probably get Robben back for a 1-2 season stint, he is still quality. But it's not worth selling Hazard, and I doubt United would have sold Ronaldo if Ronaldo was not so focused on going to Madrid.
But Superb made a good point that if they come in for Oscar, a £45mill+ offer would be good enough for me to accept.
I wouldn't sell Oscar for that, we just need to get the best out of him more consistently. He came become a huge player for us and one we'd regret letting go even for a large fee.
comment by White Wall (U1078)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 21 minutes ago
We cannot sell Hazard.
He is far too important and even if we did get £70-80 million for him who could we replace him with who is available ??
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You don't have to replace him like for like.
We scored 105 PL goals without a player anything like Hazard in our squad
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103 goals, and having one of, if not the the greatest, focal points to base your attacks off (Drogba) helped immensely.
I'd like to think Oscar was tired due to all the games catching up. But I have my doubts and think he was saving himself for the WC. If Mourinho thinks that, then he is out imo.
comment by The Blue Kenyan (U1641)
posted 57 seconds ago
Sanchez and Reus are two possible replacements. Both have been more productive than him this season. Or players with similar potential but more behind in development like Moura and Shaqiri. But past that with £70m+ for Hazard and the £50m for Luiz we could buy world class players all over the team, not just the one replacement for Hazard. Not trying to endorse this sale or rumour and don't want him sold of course, but I do think that every player has a price and don't believe Hazard is an 'unsaleable at any price' asset at all.
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We would fall into the same situation Tottenham had this season, by selling their best player. We would have a lot of money to spend but we would likely have to overpay for other players. There would be also a lot of players to settle in, and few I doubt would be to deliver what Hazard did last season in their first season.
Hazard is better than Sanchez and Reus, although I rate these two players, I would argue that Hazard hasn't had the luxury yet to play as a focal point. Sanchez has not yet either, but he does play for Barcelona, where there is a abundance of players attacking players to provide for you going forward and players available to create for. Reus has been utilised efficiently, and the team is the perfect place environment for him. Also both players play in less competitive leagues, where a lot of the opposition is not to the quality of teams in the premier league.
Also when looking at the raw statistics of them both, Hazard is more productive for his position. He completes more dribbles and creates more chances. These are the key areas to look at for a winger.
Lucas Moura would be a good investment, but we have the spending power to buy him anyway if we wanted to. Also again he is a gamble, and would probably take two or three seasons until we see him at his best.
Hazard is irreplaceable. I think people on here sometimes forget his age. He is absolute mustard, at only 22. Imagine in 5 years time. Selling would serve no purpose whatsoever. He is priceless. End of.
According to the CEIS figures released yesterday, Hazard is the fourth most valuable player in the world with an estimated value of 61-70m.
The only players above him are Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez.
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No need to sell but if they offer stupid money I would do.
Dont sell him ! Players like him are a rare and and far between . I hope hazard will stay .PSG are well aware of his enormous potential, i wish they d just stop . It annoys me that The recent fines seem to have no effect whatsoever on their way of dealing. Stay at chelsea eden!
I never understand the argument that Utd selling Ronaldo was a good move. I don't think it was.
When Utd had Ronaldo they were getting to CL Finals and winning them.
After he left Utd were considerably weaker in Europe and in the Premiership Utd have only won 1 PL title in the four years since Ronaldo left.
The example of Utd selling Ronaldo is a very good reason why we must not sell Hazard.
Its like DailyFail is somehow trying to convince PSG to buy him, everyday or the other there is an article on Hazard to PSG.
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posted on 4/6/14
id want alot more, whos his potential replacement?
posted on 4/6/14
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121022150655/simpsons/images/3/36/Republican_Party.jpg
This is how I imagine the PSG boardroom looks like when they discuss transfers.
posted on 4/6/14
No way should we sell Hazard.
If PSG want to offer us more silly money for a player then we should sell them Oscar for £50 million+. The mugs would probably pay it as well.
posted on 4/6/14
Hazard was a little inconsistent last year but I feel that was as much due to expectation on him to create something every time he got the ball.
If Oscar and Willian can score and create more goals it will help.
I don't want the club to sell him, how many players I the world can get a whole stadium to stand up in expectation when they get the ball in a dangerous area? not many and I would hate to lose the one we had.
Having said that anything close to £80m and I can see us selling.
posted on 4/6/14
We cannot sell Hazard.
He is far too important and even if we did get £70-80 million for him who could we replace him with who is available ??
posted on 4/6/14
reus maybe?
posted on 4/6/14
Of course we would at least consider selling him if they came in with silly money, just like United did with Ronaldo and AC Milan with Kaka. That's approaching the record fee for a player, and in the times where we are trying to comply with FFP (and PSG don't give one) of course we would at least consider it, well I certainly would.
posted on 4/6/14
No real advantage to sell Hazard right now not even for stupid money, as there is nothing really out there to replace him.
I also never understand when people call him out for inconsistency. He was almost our only provider for goals and chance creation last year, he had a heavy burden to carry, which I personally think any midfielder would have struggled with. Despite this he still provided more goal scoring opportunities than any other player in Europe. You cannot be classed as inconsistent if you show this much productivity. It would be like saying Mata was inconsistent during 12/13 season.
I also don't quite understand why people think he has no loyalty towards the club. Does anybody actually know him? Generally I think he enjoys playing for Chelsea.
I would much rather see us try utilise him properly, which I don't think we have done yet as he seems to be handicapped by the tactics and some of the players around him.
posted on 4/6/14
Sanchez and Reus are two possible replacements. Both have been more productive than him this season. Or players with similar potential but more behind in development like Moura and Shaqiri. But past that with £70m+ for Hazard and the £50m for Luiz we could buy world class players all over the team, not just the one replacement for Hazard. Not trying to endorse this sale or rumour and don't want him sold of course, but I do think that every player has a price and don't believe Hazard is an 'unsaleable at any price' asset at all.
posted on 4/6/14
Hazard is virtually irreplaceable, the only players better than him in a similar moult are unobtainable, we want Hazard to mature in to our Ronaldo. Around his market value would not be a worth while sale for that reason. If we needed a team rebuild and had one massive asset in Hazard and needed to offset transfers to bring in 6 or 7 players then fine but we don’t. If we got £60-70 million for him we’re a ridiculously good player down and million up, so what in that context? For a player who can’t be replaced to make it worth while it would cost more than anyone would pay - £100 million plus.
Hazard is a brilliant player, one that will only get better and one that raises the profile of our club – he’s worth a huge amount to Chelsea both on and off the pitch.
posted on 4/6/14
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 21 minutes ago
We cannot sell Hazard.
He is far too important and even if we did get £70-80 million for him who could we replace him with who is available ??
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You don't have to replace him like for like.
We scored 105 PL goals without a player anything like Hazard in our squad
posted on 4/6/14
Hazard was brilliant for us last season, and if people think he was inconsistent, it just further proves what sort of quality he is will be when he consistently dominates.
There is no one out there that can replace Hazard that we can get in. At best we can probably get Robben back for a 1-2 season stint, he is still quality. But it's not worth selling Hazard, and I doubt United would have sold Ronaldo if Ronaldo was not so focused on going to Madrid.
But Superb made a good point that if they come in for Oscar, a £45mill+ offer would be good enough for me to accept.
posted on 4/6/14
I wouldn't sell Oscar for that, we just need to get the best out of him more consistently. He came become a huge player for us and one we'd regret letting go even for a large fee.
posted on 4/6/14
comment by White Wall (U1078)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 21 minutes ago
We cannot sell Hazard.
He is far too important and even if we did get £70-80 million for him who could we replace him with who is available ??
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You don't have to replace him like for like.
We scored 105 PL goals without a player anything like Hazard in our squad
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103 goals, and having one of, if not the the greatest, focal points to base your attacks off (Drogba) helped immensely.
posted on 4/6/14
I'd like to think Oscar was tired due to all the games catching up. But I have my doubts and think he was saving himself for the WC. If Mourinho thinks that, then he is out imo.
posted on 4/6/14
comment by The Blue Kenyan (U1641)
posted 57 seconds ago
Sanchez and Reus are two possible replacements. Both have been more productive than him this season. Or players with similar potential but more behind in development like Moura and Shaqiri. But past that with £70m+ for Hazard and the £50m for Luiz we could buy world class players all over the team, not just the one replacement for Hazard. Not trying to endorse this sale or rumour and don't want him sold of course, but I do think that every player has a price and don't believe Hazard is an 'unsaleable at any price' asset at all.
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We would fall into the same situation Tottenham had this season, by selling their best player. We would have a lot of money to spend but we would likely have to overpay for other players. There would be also a lot of players to settle in, and few I doubt would be to deliver what Hazard did last season in their first season.
Hazard is better than Sanchez and Reus, although I rate these two players, I would argue that Hazard hasn't had the luxury yet to play as a focal point. Sanchez has not yet either, but he does play for Barcelona, where there is a abundance of players attacking players to provide for you going forward and players available to create for. Reus has been utilised efficiently, and the team is the perfect place environment for him. Also both players play in less competitive leagues, where a lot of the opposition is not to the quality of teams in the premier league.
Also when looking at the raw statistics of them both, Hazard is more productive for his position. He completes more dribbles and creates more chances. These are the key areas to look at for a winger.
Lucas Moura would be a good investment, but we have the spending power to buy him anyway if we wanted to. Also again he is a gamble, and would probably take two or three seasons until we see him at his best.
posted on 4/6/14
Hazard is irreplaceable. I think people on here sometimes forget his age. He is absolute mustard, at only 22. Imagine in 5 years time. Selling would serve no purpose whatsoever. He is priceless. End of.
posted on 4/6/14
According to the CEIS figures released yesterday, Hazard is the fourth most valuable player in the world with an estimated value of 61-70m.
The only players above him are Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez.
posted on 4/6/14
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posted on 4/6/14
No need to sell but if they offer stupid money I would do.
posted on 4/6/14
Dont sell him ! Players like him are a rare and and far between . I hope hazard will stay .PSG are well aware of his enormous potential, i wish they d just stop . It annoys me that The recent fines seem to have no effect whatsoever on their way of dealing. Stay at chelsea eden!
posted on 4/6/14
I never understand the argument that Utd selling Ronaldo was a good move. I don't think it was.
When Utd had Ronaldo they were getting to CL Finals and winning them.
After he left Utd were considerably weaker in Europe and in the Premiership Utd have only won 1 PL title in the four years since Ronaldo left.
The example of Utd selling Ronaldo is a very good reason why we must not sell Hazard.
posted on 4/6/14
Its like DailyFail is somehow trying to convince PSG to buy him, everyday or the other there is an article on Hazard to PSG.
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