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Losing to Italy is hardly a disaster. And in my opinion we looked the better side
Lost to the best side despite playing well. Costa Rica result has done us a huge favour.
Totally agree. People might say that Baines was poor but Rooney was incredibly lazy in tracking back and offered little protection.
Apart from that I think we were excellent and unlucky to lose.
Why blame the defence?
Biggest culprit was the central midfield who went missing - stand forward Gerrard (again) and Henderson!
Gerrard needs dumping. Awful.
comment by TheWalkinDude (U4251)
posted 47 seconds ago
Totally agree. People might say that Baines was poor but Rooney was incredibly lazy in tracking back and offered little protection.
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Rooney is primarily a striker. It's unrealistic to expect him to play out on the left and do a solid job of covering the LB
At the end of the day, he's been told to play on the left and agreed to it. The least he can do is show off his famous work rate and cover his full back.
Agreed, actually thought they played better than I expected, Sterling was good 1st half, bit quieter 2nd but he can be happy with his performance, still think we will have enough to make it out of the group though, Uruguay are cack...
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For all the talk of the youngsters in the English side you've been ripped apart by an old fella! Nobody in that side to touch Pirlo!
England were worse after Hendo got subbed.
How is it the midfields fault when every Italy chance came down the left hand side?
Gerrard and Henderson did there job in midfield, sat back and gave the ball to the attacking three. Some decent long passes from Gerrard and Henderson could have scored.
Worst performers were Baines and Rooney, but a more than passable performance going forward!
Sorry to disagree, the CM have to take charge and dictate the game, they didn't do that - in fact they were anonymouse!
comment by TheWalkinDude (U4251)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard and Henderson did there job in midfield, sat back and gave the ball to the attacking three. Some decent long passes from Gerrard and Henderson could have scored.
Worst performers were Baines and Rooney, but a more than passable performance going forward!
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Sat back!!!!!!
They should take charge. Sat back indeed.
I get why people are having a go at Gerrard - I thought he had a poor game, but Hendo - who was basically left on his own in the middle of the park against Pirlo, Marchisio and verrati - had a good game.
Oh and England played well, if they play like that in they're next 2 games they'll get out of that group
Taking charge against a midfield 4 of Pirlo, De Rossi, Veratti and Marchisio is always going to be a tough ask. They sat back, mopped things up and distributed the ball to the 4 attacking players who (bar Rooney) were excellent.
How blinkered can you be? The Italian defence hardly broke sweat in that game!!
Italy were excellent standard win for them, so comfortable on the ball and Pirlo showing Gerrard the player he will never be..Fair play to them
comment by Hoops-on-toast (U9575)
posted 33 minutes ago
How blinkered can you be? The Italian defence hardly broke sweat in that game!!
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England created so many chances before Italy parked the bus.
Uruguay hit the post, hit the bar, had one cleared off the line. Easily had the best chances. England players blazing the ball wide from distance are not chances in my book.
Excellent post, Reincarnated, I fully agree. I thought your lot played very well, you attacked whenever possible, you kept your shape, yes, your left side was weak, but, give credit to the Italian right winger, he was very good.
My moment of the match? No question, in the first few minutes (what is he now, 19?) Raheem's thunder shot into the side netting on his WC debut. That boy is saturated with confidence.
JimmyTheRed
comment by Hoops-on-toast (U9575)
posted 15 hours, 44 minutes ago
For all the talk of the youngsters in the English side you've been ripped apart by an old fella! Nobody in that side to touch Pirlo!
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Pirlo is still a class player and he played well but were in no way ripped apart by one player. In fact apart from his dummy that set up the first goal he did not cause us many problems. England played well and gave as good as they got, with better finishing they could have won that game easily, ripped apart? I think you were watching through your SNP glasses Jimmy.
comment by Hoops-on-toast (U9575)
posted 15 hours, 25 minutes ago
How blinkered can you be? The Italian defence hardly broke sweat in that game!!
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I think you will find that the Italian defence were worked just as hard if not harder then the English defence, try looking at the game impartially instead of as a bigoted, jealous Scot.
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posted on 15/6/14
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Losing to Italy is hardly a disaster. And in my opinion we looked the better side
posted on 15/6/14
Lost to the best side despite playing well. Costa Rica result has done us a huge favour.
posted on 15/6/14
Totally agree. People might say that Baines was poor but Rooney was incredibly lazy in tracking back and offered little protection.
Apart from that I think we were excellent and unlucky to lose.
posted on 15/6/14
Why blame the defence?
Biggest culprit was the central midfield who went missing - stand forward Gerrard (again) and Henderson!
posted on 15/6/14
Gerrard needs dumping. Awful.
posted on 15/6/14
comment by TheWalkinDude (U4251)
posted 47 seconds ago
Totally agree. People might say that Baines was poor but Rooney was incredibly lazy in tracking back and offered little protection.
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Rooney is primarily a striker. It's unrealistic to expect him to play out on the left and do a solid job of covering the LB
posted on 15/6/14
At the end of the day, he's been told to play on the left and agreed to it. The least he can do is show off his famous work rate and cover his full back.
posted on 15/6/14
Agreed, actually thought they played better than I expected, Sterling was good 1st half, bit quieter 2nd but he can be happy with his performance, still think we will have enough to make it out of the group though, Uruguay are cack...
posted on 15/6/14
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posted on 15/6/14
For all the talk of the youngsters in the English side you've been ripped apart by an old fella! Nobody in that side to touch Pirlo!
posted on 15/6/14
England were worse after Hendo got subbed.
posted on 15/6/14
How is it the midfields fault when every Italy chance came down the left hand side?
posted on 15/6/14
Gerrard and Henderson did there job in midfield, sat back and gave the ball to the attacking three. Some decent long passes from Gerrard and Henderson could have scored.
Worst performers were Baines and Rooney, but a more than passable performance going forward!
posted on 15/6/14
Sorry to disagree, the CM have to take charge and dictate the game, they didn't do that - in fact they were anonymouse!
posted on 15/6/14
anonymous
posted on 15/6/14
comment by TheWalkinDude (U4251)
posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard and Henderson did there job in midfield, sat back and gave the ball to the attacking three. Some decent long passes from Gerrard and Henderson could have scored.
Worst performers were Baines and Rooney, but a more than passable performance going forward!
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Sat back!!!!!!
They should take charge. Sat back indeed.
posted on 15/6/14
I get why people are having a go at Gerrard - I thought he had a poor game, but Hendo - who was basically left on his own in the middle of the park against Pirlo, Marchisio and verrati - had a good game.
Oh and England played well, if they play like that in they're next 2 games they'll get out of that group
posted on 15/6/14
Taking charge against a midfield 4 of Pirlo, De Rossi, Veratti and Marchisio is always going to be a tough ask. They sat back, mopped things up and distributed the ball to the 4 attacking players who (bar Rooney) were excellent.
posted on 15/6/14
How blinkered can you be? The Italian defence hardly broke sweat in that game!!
posted on 15/6/14
Italy were excellent standard win for them, so comfortable on the ball and Pirlo showing Gerrard the player he will never be..Fair play to them
posted on 15/6/14
comment by Hoops-on-toast (U9575)
posted 33 minutes ago
How blinkered can you be? The Italian defence hardly broke sweat in that game!!
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England created so many chances before Italy parked the bus.
posted on 15/6/14
Uruguay hit the post, hit the bar, had one cleared off the line. Easily had the best chances. England players blazing the ball wide from distance are not chances in my book.
posted on 15/6/14
Excellent post, Reincarnated, I fully agree. I thought your lot played very well, you attacked whenever possible, you kept your shape, yes, your left side was weak, but, give credit to the Italian right winger, he was very good.
My moment of the match? No question, in the first few minutes (what is he now, 19?) Raheem's thunder shot into the side netting on his WC debut. That boy is saturated with confidence.
JimmyTheRed
posted on 15/6/14
comment by Hoops-on-toast (U9575)
posted 15 hours, 44 minutes ago
For all the talk of the youngsters in the English side you've been ripped apart by an old fella! Nobody in that side to touch Pirlo!
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Pirlo is still a class player and he played well but were in no way ripped apart by one player. In fact apart from his dummy that set up the first goal he did not cause us many problems. England played well and gave as good as they got, with better finishing they could have won that game easily, ripped apart? I think you were watching through your SNP glasses Jimmy.
posted on 15/6/14
comment by Hoops-on-toast (U9575)
posted 15 hours, 25 minutes ago
How blinkered can you be? The Italian defence hardly broke sweat in that game!!
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I think you will find that the Italian defence were worked just as hard if not harder then the English defence, try looking at the game impartially instead of as a bigoted, jealous Scot.
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