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1.) Arsenal - 114 points.
2.) Manchester City - 84 points.
3.) Chelsea - 82 points.
4.) Manchester United - 79 points.
5.) Spurs - 74 points.
6.) Everton - 71 points.
7.) Liverpool - 68 points.

Champ22ns
Chelsea
City
Spurs
QPR
Everton
Stoke
amton (What remains)
Newcastle
Arsenal
Liverpool

'I have left Arsenal until last because until the transfer window closes they could either be joint favourites with Chelsea'

That applies to every club in the top 5

I know Man U have got a good manager again but they are at the moment very disorganised.

There defence is the weakest its ever been with no Vidic, Evra, Rio etc.

They have got Shaw but its like us just getting Chambers for the R/B.....good prospect but not what you want to progress to Champions.

Lets not even bother with their R/B situation.

Midfield is fine but not as good as when they had Scholes etc. They have not got any great pace on the wings and besides Rooney and RVP they have an average team. Even saying that RVP seems to be injury prone again and getting on in age, Rooney is a hot and cold player.

They will buy but only have 2 weeks left, it will be hard to bring players in to gel when they have limited pre season games to do this.

Fot the life of me I cannot understand why people say top 4 again.

Arsenal, Man C, Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton have improved this Summer, Spurs are on the verge of 2 good players and even though we laughed at their purchases last year, these players have now got experience in the PL and will get better this term.

So why do Man U get chosen for top 4 ?

If he signed 2 defenders and a solid DM and a winger before now I would agree but atm I cannot see them progressing past 5th at least.....

comment by Robbie Raeside (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Champ22ns
Chelsea
City
Spurs
QPR
Everton
Stoke
amton (What remains)
Newcastle
Arsenal
Liverpool
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^^^^ Wanchor

Chelsea
Arsenal
City
Liverpool
United
Everton
Spurs

1st Arsenal/Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd
2nd Arsenal/Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd
3rd Arsenal/Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd
4th Arsenal/Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd
5th Spurs
6th Everton
7th Liverpool

Too close to call at the top, I can see any one of those 4 winning it and any one of those 4 finishing 4th. Spurs have a much better manager now and i think they will pip Everton to 5th. Liverpool will be back to their usual slot in 7th without Suarez and there is no way Sturrige is going to have as good a season as last year as quite simply, he is a middle of the road, bang average player.

But this is all just my opinion, one things for sure though is that it will be exciting and I hope the Arsenal can stay in the title race right to the end to make it even more exiting.

United are the real unknown quantity at the moment. With them as they are I'd be pretty confident in betting that the top 4 would be Chelsea/City/Arsenal/Liverpool, in some order, since United currently have about three defenders among whom the best is Chris Smalling - not exactly Champions League quality. However, they will inevitably strengthen in that area and probably elsewhere, so it then becomes a question of how much those additions improve the team and who they could kick out of the top 4. If anyone has to fall I'd expect Liverpool, since losing a player of Suarez's quality would be a huge blow to anyone and without him they don't look too inspiring, but as I say for the time being it's United who have to play catch-up.

Its hard to see the top 7 all getting at least 70 points. I don't think that's ever happened before. Safety for relegation would be very low if it did happen.