Wrong. Phil Jones was worth about £5m when he was playing for Blackburn, but the day we bought him he automatically became worth £25m because he was a Man Utd player, and that makes you more valuable. Simple business. We could buy any player from anyone then the next day sell them on for twice as much, cos who wouldn't want to buy a Man Utd player?
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Not quite as simple as this. By nature, if it is a player we want, usually it is a player the selling team is reluctant to let go of and their value is boosted because we see him as a ManUtd-quality player.
When we sell, by contrast, in many cases it is because we don't think he is quite good enough, which means it is less of a seller's market.
We could buy any player from anyone then the next day sell them on for twice as much, cos who wouldn't want to buy a Man Utd player?
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OK mate, the delusion is strong in this one.
Can you please explain the logic behind this article and the evidence supporting it?
RR
Why on earth did you bother explaining that to Barry?
Sometimes we even do a "Sponsor a 'special' player" deal, where we buy someone who has learning difficulties or limited physical capabilities, let's say Bebe for example. And because we bought him it means everyone thinks he is a real life football player. So Benfica signed him thanks to our initiative. Other clubs don't do charity drives like that. This is what makes us the best and most nice club in the world.
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How is this robbie Raeside ballend still going strong in every article he comments on and still getting honest replies ffs.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 23 minutes ago
We had a bad 1st half of the season, so the club sanctioned a £37m move for Mata. Would Arsenal?
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Probaly not, but we have an abundance of attacking midfielders
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We ended the season badly, so the club got rid of the under performing manager and brought in an expensive new one. Would Arsenal?
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Maybe if Wenger took us from champions to 7th in his first season, he'll be gone too.
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The club spent £27m on an 18 year old left back. Would Arsenal?
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Would anyone?
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UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
It's been a while since I saw anyone take Barry seriously
The most important thing to remember is when deciding between 2 players, the more expensive one is always better, because he is more expensive. If you can get a better player cheaper, that is a bad idea and a bad deal. I'd go as far as saying match what the club wants for a player, then add £10m on to their asking price and pay that. Cos that makes the players £10m better.
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
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But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
We know AFC would never give £37 mil for a player that can't make CFC's first team, most teams wouldn't.
So your basically saying Man u will pay silly money for players they dont really need, hence why they are different to AFC.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 minutes ago
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
---------------------------------------------------------------
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
We know AFC would never give £37 mil for a player that can't make CFC's first team, most teams wouldn't.
So your basically saying Man u will pay silly money for players they dont really need, hence why they are different to AFC.
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No, AFC just spent 43m on a Real Madrid cast off
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
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Wow, how long have you been working on being this dumb?
That was my first post, addressing the OP's question.
No, AFC just spent 43m on a Real Madrid cast off
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Really, a cast off who was still playing in one of the best teams in the world, until they broke the world record for Bale, compared to a guy who can't make the Spain squad, CFC squad and is 2 years older.
They're really the same
also, anyone who thinks Mata isn't 1st team material is discussing the wrong sport.
Chelsea were all out of ideas by March. Jose has his ideas and ways, but that doesn't mean that Mata is any the less a player because of it.
Will be interesting to see how this chelsea reject gets on, this season.
Ozil was not good enough for Madrid's bench and was deemed surplus to requirements and you spent 43 m on him and he only turns up for half the season.
Mata was at the world cup by the way
You're right, he's worse
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 minutes ago
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
---------------------------------------------------------------
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
We know AFC would never give £37 mil for a player that can't make CFC's first team, most teams wouldn't.
So your basically saying Man u will pay silly money for players they dont really need, hence why they are different to AFC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, AFC just spent 43m on a Real Madrid cast off
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Di Maria is also going to be a Real Madrid cast off........doesn't mean he's not actually better than most of the players RM sign.
compared to a guy who can't make the Spain squad
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Yes, you really are in the wrong sport.
Must have been a trick of the eye when I thought I saw Mata score against Australia.
"Oh, but he didn't start the big games".... Yea, well, maybe Del Bosque is regretting decisions like that?
Wow, how long have you been working on being this dumb?
That was my first post, addressing the OP's question.
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You just said some stupid statements, that most teams wouldn't do, then added, would Arsenal, to the end of them.
And i'm the dumb one
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The 2nd coming of Wayne Bridge (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
compared to a guy who can't make the Spain squad
--------------------------
Yes, you really are in the wrong sport.
Must have been a trick of the eye when I thought I saw Mata score against Australia.
"Oh, but he didn't start the big games".... Yea, well, maybe Del Bosque is regretting decisions like that?
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To be fair, not being able to get into that Spain WC squad/team didn't seem to have anything to do with ability.
Yes, you really are in the wrong sport.
Must have been a trick of the eye when I thought I saw Mata score against Australia.
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fair enough, i was wrong,he made the squad, well done.
Nobody said he was a bad player, just that spending 37 mil on him when he couldn't make CFC's first team is not the best business, probaly could have got him cheaper, but you are Man u and money is no object
Don't really care about Arsenal.
OP's point about settling for winning the 4th place cup every year probably doesn't square with keeping the coffers stocked up with money from the developing markets. We know that simply winning the title will get you loads of fans there, hence relative unknowns like city and Chelsea suddenly shifting lots of 'product' overseas.
Ed's got to keep the money rolling in, so we need to compete.
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
The club spent £27m on an 18 year old left back. Would Arsenal?
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Would anyone?
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City.
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Doubt it
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They spent £28m on Lescott. LESCOTT.
And i'm the dumb one
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We finally agree on something
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posted on 6/8/14
Wrong. Phil Jones was worth about £5m when he was playing for Blackburn, but the day we bought him he automatically became worth £25m because he was a Man Utd player, and that makes you more valuable. Simple business. We could buy any player from anyone then the next day sell them on for twice as much, cos who wouldn't want to buy a Man Utd player?
----------------------------------
Not quite as simple as this. By nature, if it is a player we want, usually it is a player the selling team is reluctant to let go of and their value is boosted because we see him as a ManUtd-quality player.
When we sell, by contrast, in many cases it is because we don't think he is quite good enough, which means it is less of a seller's market.
posted on 6/8/14
We could buy any player from anyone then the next day sell them on for twice as much, cos who wouldn't want to buy a Man Utd player?
------------------------------------------------------------
OK mate, the delusion is strong in this one.
posted on 6/8/14
Can you please explain the logic behind this article and the evidence supporting it?
posted on 6/8/14
RR
Why on earth did you bother explaining that to Barry?
posted on 6/8/14
Sometimes we even do a "Sponsor a 'special' player" deal, where we buy someone who has learning difficulties or limited physical capabilities, let's say Bebe for example. And because we bought him it means everyone thinks he is a real life football player. So Benfica signed him thanks to our initiative. Other clubs don't do charity drives like that. This is what makes us the best and most nice club in the world.
posted on 6/8/14
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posted on 6/8/14
How is this robbie Raeside ballend still going strong in every article he comments on and still getting honest replies ffs.
posted on 6/8/14
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 23 minutes ago
We had a bad 1st half of the season, so the club sanctioned a £37m move for Mata. Would Arsenal?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Probaly not, but we have an abundance of attacking midfielders
------------------------------------------------------------
We ended the season badly, so the club got rid of the under performing manager and brought in an expensive new one. Would Arsenal?
---------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe if Wenger took us from champions to 7th in his first season, he'll be gone too.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
The club spent £27m on an 18 year old left back. Would Arsenal?
--------------------------------------------------------
Would anyone?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
posted on 6/8/14
It's been a while since I saw anyone take Barry seriously
posted on 6/8/14
The most important thing to remember is when deciding between 2 players, the more expensive one is always better, because he is more expensive. If you can get a better player cheaper, that is a bad idea and a bad deal. I'd go as far as saying match what the club wants for a player, then add £10m on to their asking price and pay that. Cos that makes the players £10m better.
posted on 6/8/14
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
---------------------------------------------------------------
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
We know AFC would never give £37 mil for a player that can't make CFC's first team, most teams wouldn't.
So your basically saying Man u will pay silly money for players they dont really need, hence why they are different to AFC.
posted on 6/8/14
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 minutes ago
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
---------------------------------------------------------------
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
We know AFC would never give £37 mil for a player that can't make CFC's first team, most teams wouldn't.
So your basically saying Man u will pay silly money for players they dont really need, hence why they are different to AFC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, AFC just spent 43m on a Real Madrid cast off
posted on 6/8/14
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
--------------------
Wow, how long have you been working on being this dumb?
That was my first post, addressing the OP's question.
posted on 6/8/14
No, AFC just spent 43m on a Real Madrid cast off
-------------------------------------------------
Really, a cast off who was still playing in one of the best teams in the world, until they broke the world record for Bale, compared to a guy who can't make the Spain squad, CFC squad and is 2 years older.
They're really the same
posted on 6/8/14
also, anyone who thinks Mata isn't 1st team material is discussing the wrong sport.
Chelsea were all out of ideas by March. Jose has his ideas and ways, but that doesn't mean that Mata is any the less a player because of it.
Will be interesting to see how this chelsea reject gets on, this season.
posted on 6/8/14
Ozil was not good enough for Madrid's bench and was deemed surplus to requirements and you spent 43 m on him and he only turns up for half the season.
Mata was at the world cup by the way
You're right, he's worse
posted on 6/8/14
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 11 minutes ago
UTD did, which was my point
We are not anything like Arsenal for that exact reason, amongst others.
As for your "We have an abundence of AMF players" comment. I guess logic isn't your strong point?
The fact we bought an AMF really was not the point. It was the fact that we spent £37m, mid season, on a player some consider a luxury.
---------------------------------------------------------------
But we've already established that Man u and AFC are totally different.
We know AFC would never give £37 mil for a player that can't make CFC's first team, most teams wouldn't.
So your basically saying Man u will pay silly money for players they dont really need, hence why they are different to AFC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, AFC just spent 43m on a Real Madrid cast off
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Di Maria is also going to be a Real Madrid cast off........doesn't mean he's not actually better than most of the players RM sign.
posted on 6/8/14
compared to a guy who can't make the Spain squad
--------------------------
Yes, you really are in the wrong sport.
Must have been a trick of the eye when I thought I saw Mata score against Australia.
"Oh, but he didn't start the big games".... Yea, well, maybe Del Bosque is regretting decisions like that?
posted on 6/8/14
Wow, how long have you been working on being this dumb?
That was my first post, addressing the OP's question.
-------------------------------------------------------------
You just said some stupid statements, that most teams wouldn't do, then added, would Arsenal, to the end of them.
And i'm the dumb one
posted on 6/8/14
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - The 2nd coming of Wayne Bridge (U2958)
posted 1 minute ago
compared to a guy who can't make the Spain squad
--------------------------
Yes, you really are in the wrong sport.
Must have been a trick of the eye when I thought I saw Mata score against Australia.
"Oh, but he didn't start the big games".... Yea, well, maybe Del Bosque is regretting decisions like that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To be fair, not being able to get into that Spain WC squad/team didn't seem to have anything to do with ability.
posted on 6/8/14
Yes, you really are in the wrong sport.
Must have been a trick of the eye when I thought I saw Mata score against Australia.
------------------------------------------------------
fair enough, i was wrong,he made the squad, well done.
Nobody said he was a bad player, just that spending 37 mil on him when he couldn't make CFC's first team is not the best business, probaly could have got him cheaper, but you are Man u and money is no object
posted on 6/8/14
Don't really care about Arsenal.
OP's point about settling for winning the 4th place cup every year probably doesn't square with keeping the coffers stocked up with money from the developing markets. We know that simply winning the title will get you loads of fans there, hence relative unknowns like city and Chelsea suddenly shifting lots of 'product' overseas.
Ed's got to keep the money rolling in, so we need to compete.
posted on 6/8/14
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
The club spent £27m on an 18 year old left back. Would Arsenal?
--------------------------------------------------------
Would anyone?
----------------
City.
------------------------------------------
Doubt it
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They spent £28m on Lescott. LESCOTT.
posted on 6/8/14
Apologise, it was £26m.
posted on 6/8/14
And i'm the dumb one
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We finally agree on something
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