Depends how good your attack is
Letting in goals makes fans happy
Good defence but not outstanding
What DJ said.
The last two league winners haven't had an outstanding defence.
Thanks guys! For a moment I thought I was going crazy arguing with my mates.
Attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Defence
Best form of attack is defence
WC striker and a solid defence
Build from the back and the rest will follow as Pulis showed despite 25% of the season gone.
Score as many goals as you like but if your defence is weaker than the oppositions attack then you'll always be in trouble....................as BR has hopefully learnt.
TUX, he was talking about winning the title not finishing mid table.
Us and City won the title in the last two seasons because we had the best attack, not because we had an outstanding defence.
The highest point total is required, nothing more.
DTKF
What's wrong with finishing 11th despite a quarter of the season being played with a squad that were bang-on relegation favourites the minute we beat Watford?
That aside, why pick on me when 'squad depth' (cough cough) is posted as an answer and is more worthy of a response than my post?
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 2 minutes ago
DTKF
What's wrong with finishing 11th despite a quarter of the season being played with a squad that were bang-on relegation favourites the minute we beat Watford?
That aside, why pick on me when 'squad depth' (cough cough) is posted as an answer and is more worthy of a response than my post?
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Because you're trying to shoehorn Palace and your caveman views on football into a thread about winning titles
Nothing wrong with it, but it's irrelevant to competing for the title. That was the question.
Squad depth is important when winning titles.
You need an outstanding defence or attack. You won't win without one or the other
TBAG, it depends on how good your rivals are. I wouldn't say we had an outstanding defence or attack when we won the title in 2011. It was good, but not outstanding. We were top scorers with 78 goals and conceded 37, which was more than City and Chelsea.
Rusky.................The thread is about defence/winning and I gave you a bloody great example. The fact that it happens to be the team I follow is irrelevant. It stands true wherever you may be in the table.
If you're too stupid to acknowledge this then I'm obviously not the only 'caveman' here.
DTKF..............You let yourself down the moment you had a swipe at little old me and not the 'squad size' post bud. Who's in 'the squad'? How good are 'the squad' on grass, not paper?
Tut tut
But this was to do with title winning teams not midtable teams.
Squad depth for title winning teams is very important. Having a solid defence for a team battling relegation is more important than it is a title winning side because a team battling relegation won't be able to go and out attack the majority of the league, whereas a title winning team can, as City proved last season.
That's why using Palace as an example was pointless, and my example of United and City much more relevant as they have actually done it without having outstanding defences.
City, United and Chelsea have had generally had the most depths in their squad over the years, which is why they've been the teams winning titles, outstanding defence or no outstanding defence.
there's more than one way to skin a honey badger
As if a honey badger could be killed
comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
TBAG, it depends on how good your rivals are. I wouldn't say we had an outstanding defence or attack when we won the title in 2011. It was good, but not outstanding. We were top scorers with 78 goals and conceded 37, which was more than City and Chelsea.
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Perhaps but it's rare you'll win without one of them. Fergie was generally a bit of an anomaly to stuff like that too
DTKF................Using Palace as an example of 'winning' is far from pointless as any true footy fan will appreciate because we won our battle ! How did you get on last year at 'the top'?
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posted on 8/8/14
False, but it helps.
posted on 8/8/14
Depends how good your attack is
posted on 8/8/14
Letting in goals makes fans happy
posted on 8/8/14
Good defence but not outstanding
posted on 8/8/14
What DJ said.
The last two league winners haven't had an outstanding defence.
posted on 8/8/14
Thanks guys! For a moment I thought I was going crazy arguing with my mates.
posted on 8/8/14
Attack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Defence
posted on 8/8/14
Best form of attack is defence
posted on 8/8/14
WC striker and a solid defence
posted on 8/8/14
Build from the back and the rest will follow as Pulis showed despite 25% of the season gone.
Score as many goals as you like but if your defence is weaker than the oppositions attack then you'll always be in trouble....................as BR has hopefully learnt.
posted on 8/8/14
Squad depth trumps all.
posted on 8/8/14
TUX, he was talking about winning the title not finishing mid table.
Us and City won the title in the last two seasons because we had the best attack, not because we had an outstanding defence.
posted on 8/8/14
The highest point total is required, nothing more.
posted on 8/8/14
DTKF
What's wrong with finishing 11th despite a quarter of the season being played with a squad that were bang-on relegation favourites the minute we beat Watford?
That aside, why pick on me when 'squad depth' (cough cough) is posted as an answer and is more worthy of a response than my post?
posted on 8/8/14
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 2 minutes ago
DTKF
What's wrong with finishing 11th despite a quarter of the season being played with a squad that were bang-on relegation favourites the minute we beat Watford?
That aside, why pick on me when 'squad depth' (cough cough) is posted as an answer and is more worthy of a response than my post?
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Because you're trying to shoehorn Palace and your caveman views on football into a thread about winning titles
posted on 8/8/14
Nothing wrong with it, but it's irrelevant to competing for the title. That was the question.
Squad depth is important when winning titles.
posted on 8/8/14
You need an outstanding defence or attack. You won't win without one or the other
posted on 8/8/14
TBAG, it depends on how good your rivals are. I wouldn't say we had an outstanding defence or attack when we won the title in 2011. It was good, but not outstanding. We were top scorers with 78 goals and conceded 37, which was more than City and Chelsea.
posted on 8/8/14
Rusky.................The thread is about defence/winning and I gave you a bloody great example. The fact that it happens to be the team I follow is irrelevant. It stands true wherever you may be in the table.
If you're too stupid to acknowledge this then I'm obviously not the only 'caveman' here.
DTKF..............You let yourself down the moment you had a swipe at little old me and not the 'squad size' post bud. Who's in 'the squad'? How good are 'the squad' on grass, not paper?
Tut tut
posted on 8/8/14
But this was to do with title winning teams not midtable teams.
Squad depth for title winning teams is very important. Having a solid defence for a team battling relegation is more important than it is a title winning side because a team battling relegation won't be able to go and out attack the majority of the league, whereas a title winning team can, as City proved last season.
That's why using Palace as an example was pointless, and my example of United and City much more relevant as they have actually done it without having outstanding defences.
City, United and Chelsea have had generally had the most depths in their squad over the years, which is why they've been the teams winning titles, outstanding defence or no outstanding defence.
posted on 8/8/14
there's more than one way to skin a honey badger
posted on 8/8/14
As if a honey badger could be killed
posted on 8/8/14
comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
TBAG, it depends on how good your rivals are. I wouldn't say we had an outstanding defence or attack when we won the title in 2011. It was good, but not outstanding. We were top scorers with 78 goals and conceded 37, which was more than City and Chelsea.
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Perhaps but it's rare you'll win without one of them. Fergie was generally a bit of an anomaly to stuff like that too
posted on 8/8/14
DTKF................Using Palace as an example of 'winning' is far from pointless as any true footy fan will appreciate because we won our battle ! How did you get on last year at 'the top'?
posted on 8/8/14
Indeed, TBAG.
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